THE WENGER THREAD

[Bradywasking]

I too am going to be more like Liverpool fan..I am going to emotionally protest against uncaring American owners and ticket price hikes..They did and it worked..
On the other hand if I were like many Liverpool fans in my home city I wouldn't be writing this now as I would have lost interest in a team of losers and would have found a new bandwagon.

[SteveO 35]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ry-7877758

Newsflash: Wenger will not be asked to relinquish any powers next season and will retain full control

No fucking shit - as if Wiggy or his pet poodle Gazidis were ever going to have that difficult conversation with him. My prediction is that if we have one of our fixture list quirk runs at the start of next season that sees us hovering near the top at Christmas, TO1AW will be signing up for longer

[northbank123]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ry-7877758

Newsflash: Wenger will not be asked to relinquish any powers next season and will retain full control

No fucking shit - as if Wiggy or his pet poodle Gazidis were ever going to have that difficult conversation with him. My prediction is that if we have one of our fixture list quirk runs at the start of next season that sees us hovering near the top at Christmas, TO1AW will be signing up for longer

There will be at least one point where things are plodding along nicely and that is when the extension will be rolled out.

Anybody who thinks that the board wouldn't offer one is deluded.

[cameron326]

19 successive seasons. But what does it actually MEAN?

When football fans a hundred years from how look at the history books, they will see that Arsenal had a period of great success from 1997 to around 2005, which included a CL final appearance. THAT IS IT.

Noone will gve a flying fuck about how many times we finished 3rd or 4th. They will merely see Arsenal's fairly brief period of shared dominance with Man Utd overwhelmed over the next decade with an avalanche of Chelsea, Man Utd, and Man City successes, before Leicester City bizarre arrive in 2016.

Nobody will give two fucks about who finished 3rd or 4th as its meant to be a means to an end, not and end in itself!
The last 12 successive seasons in the CL have meant fuck all unless your Stan Kronenke counting your money, as its become an end in itself.

[BFG4]

I've said it before, but when it comes to the media, they have been happy to enable this wenger situation for as long as possible. On soccer Saturday, they were interviewing Michael Carrick, and he said that if Man United finished 4th, he wouldn't celebrate it. The panel agreed that this was the right attitude, yet when it came to Arsenal, they were almost questioning why we were protesting. Next season, any of the other top clubs will be judged by the standard of whether they win the league or not, yet at Arsene FC. The manager is lauded for allowing the club to stand still again. The media showed what a bunch of wankers they are on Saturday, when they tried to belittle the protest, and questioned why we were protesting. Yet these same journalists slag off the club all season.

[xisstential]

I've said it before, but when it comes to the media, they have been happy to enable this wenger situation for as long as possible. On soccer Saturday, they were interviewing Michael Carrick, and he said that if Man United finished 4th, he wouldn't celebrate it. The panel agreed that this was the right attitude, yet when it came to Arsenal, they were almost questioning why we were protesting. Next season, any of the other top clubs will be judged by the standard of whether they win the league or not, yet at Arsene FC. The manager is lauded for allowing the club to stand still again. The media showed what a bunch of wankers they are on Saturday, when they tried to belittle the protest, and questioned why we were protesting. Yet these same journalists slag off the club all season.

Its bizarre... they were slating Lvg in this mornings paper and saying Utd need a new manage after yesterdays performance against Leicester???? We scrape a 1-0 win at home against relegation fodder and it's "That should answer his critics" It really is inexplicable.

Tbh I do not think Wenger will strengthen in any meaningful way and I do not think we will be "challenging" at ANY stage next season. I believe with all my heart that it's going to get worse and in 2, maybe 3 years time,EVERYBODY will finally turn on him.

Better managers, better teams, football evolving.... Wenger standing still.. there is only one outcome.

[OneBardGooner]

Good read in The Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... nt-to-see/

[xisstential]

Just saw on Sky... Harry Kane has 13 goals in his last 14 games.

Olivier Giroud, another of Wenger's pet projects, doesn't have 13 for the entire season. But we can't find anyone better and Wengers supporters just accept that.

[SteveO 35]

Just saw on Sky... Harry Kane has 13 goals in his last 14 games.

Olivier Giroud, another of Wenger's pet projects, doesn't have 13 for the entire season. But we can't find anyone better and Wengers supporters just accept that.

Harry Kane is 13 ahead of Giroud during that period then

[Redarmy]

Jamie Redknapp.................

I’ve covered the last three Arsenal matches and seeing their fans right now is like watching a teenage break-up.

Some want a clean break from Arsene Wenger but there’s still a lot of love there and most of them are willing to give it one more try.

Wenger is saying nothing to suggest he will walk away and the club are not going to get rid of him.

The demonstration was a waste of time but with Wenger the more people tell him to do something, the more resistant he becomes, particularly with transfers.

It’s obvious that Arsenal needed more firepower. Olivier Giroud hasn’t scored for 15 league games in the most important part of the season.

And I didn’t like Alexis Sanchez’s reaction to being subbed off. It was a show of disharmony that we never normally associate with Wenger’s squads.

It’s when these kind of issues become obvious to the fans that you’ve got problems. The trouble for Wenger right now is his mistakes are obvious to everybody.


I reckon we are going to have another year of the "Wenger experiment" Everybody on here knows, tell Wenger what is obvious, what needs to happen, he won't do it. He buys a striker who scores 20 -30 goals a season & everybody will be saying... We told you, why didn't you do it earlier, etc, etc. He's not having that. He'll persist with Giroud, just one goal & we'll be hearing "I told you he was top class, all strikers go through a lean spell

One more season, I don't think we'll get top 4 next season, hopefully it will be even worse... but it's going to be one more season.. AT LEAST. I don't think we'll be buying anyone either... the fans think we need to so therefore..........

One more season????....stand on me this guy WILL sign an extended contract offered by the board

[amazonas]

Good read in The Telegraph:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... nt-to-see/

Great read! Am especially pleased they zoomed in on Walcott's despicable non-challenge. Only thing they should've put the "A new manager"-part top of the fans demands instead of burying it mid-article - it's there though

[Clash]

Wenger again asking us fans to 'have faith'.



Wenger must see himself as one of those managers in a Disney movie - the leader of a bunch of misfits and in the end, gets his happy ending. Wenger must think its written in the stars that he will get a happy ending. But his 'faith' is horribly misguided and is unworthy of seriousness.I really believe Wenger thinks his 'faith' will be rewarded. However, back in reality, his 'faith' in players like Giroud, Walcott, Ramsey, and before them Denilson, Almunia, Diaby, is simply blind delusion that has cost him and the club.

I've looked at it that way too in the past.

What I find amusing now is that even if Wenger did get his fairytale ending, Ranieri has beaten him to it. And not only has he beaten him to it ... his is a far more heartwarming and surprising story with more likeable characters.

Wenger has dragged his tale out so long and they've all become so unpleasant along the way .. that many people dont care about how it ends ... just as long as it does fucking end!

Some even want it to end badly. I've seen so many films where I've become so bored that I just want them all dead.

[GoonerMuzz]

I don't normally like Jamie Redknapps articles, but for once he has that spot on, a large part of our fans are a bunch of teen agers clinging onto their first love.

I don't think the Wenger cult is as big as it seems i just think there are a large silent majority between the AKBs and the WOBs who want to sit on the fence out of fear.

The fear thing is so prevalent among our fans, scared of change, scared of protesting, scared of the future and in many cases scared of the AKBs and their violent reaction to the protests as has been experienced by members on this board.

So this large silent majority sit there hoping things will improve, knowing they wont but too scared to do anything about it

I'm writing at least the next 3 seasons off, even if Wenger doesn't get his expected contract extension the rebuild this club will need to go through to be great again is enormous

[GranadaJoe]

While locked in my cave working, I often listen to programmes, lectures and debates about a variety of subjects.

Recently, I've been listening to a variety of religious people debating atheists and it strikes me that the support of AW is largely religious in its nature.

While some supporters seem to back him out of sympathy/recognition of his long-past achievements, many seem oblivious to any reasoned argument; they trot out 'lack of money', 'lack of better players to buy', 'AW has the right to decide when he goes' etc and ignore any logical response, and as such I doubt we can convince more than a small fraction of the AKBs to come over to the dark side.

I think we need to target the media clowns who, as has been posted above, seem to hold AW to completely different standards than other managers at other clubs. A number of journos have spoken strongly and eloquently against AW, but the broadcast media are still worshipping at the altar of Wenger. They need to be challenged and brought onside.

I think it's only when the mood music is anti-AW that the Board, and maybe a few more supporters, may follow suit.

[amazonas]

While locked in my cave working, I often listen to programmes, lectures and debates about a variety of subjects.

Recently, I've been listening to a variety of religious people debating atheists and it strikes me that the support of AW is largely religious in its nature.

While some supporters seem to back him out of sympathy/recognition of his long-past achievements, many seem oblivious to any reasoned argument; they trot out 'lack of money', 'lack of better players to buy', 'AW has the right to decide when he goes' etc and ignore any logical response, and as such I doubt we can convince more than a small fraction of the AKBs to come over to the dark side.

I think we need to target the media clowns who, as has been posted above, seem to hold AW to completely different standards than other managers at other clubs. A number of journos have spoken strongly and eloquently against AW, but the broadcast media are still worshipping at the altar of Wenger. They need to be challenged and brought onside.

I think it's only when the mood music is anti-AW that the Board, and maybe a few more supporters, may follow suit.

Truth of the matter is that a lot of journos and most TV faces in general suffer from a bad case of diarrhea of the mouth. It's all empty phrases splattering out soiling over the masses without an ounce of care or THOUGHT behind it. Repeat something over and over again and it people forget to question it - like Arsene knows best... I see that it appears AW is being held to different standards, but with these media clowns I don't believe in any existing standard and certainly no independent thinking behind the spouting