As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
TeeCee wrote:Herd - I realise you're not interested in the ticketing system at Arsenal, why would you be? you don't go to games, you just sit behind your keyboard wanking furiously at your own diatribe.
So according to reports, you are wrong about the leveraged debt then? What a surprise, a guy who never actually goes to support his team spouting off shite on an internet forum. You and US Martin should arrange a same sex marriage immediately so you can celebrate the only way you know how, with a bit of mutual man masturbation. You are truly a mug of epic proportions, and you'd be better off concentrating on daytime TV which is more your level. Cheerio.
Oh my get caught in what you are and you turn into a nasty little bitchy animal don't you.
Yopu a stooge for the Board whose blind loyalty i8s such that you prefer the Board fuck every Gooner yourself most of all just so long as you can pretend how unique and special they are.
The Arsenal way now is fuck the supporters and you are right there helping them because they are the Board and better than all of us together and therefore you must support them and lie for them. Tool.
You fucking little Weasel Youre an embarrassement USWeasel
pingu wrote:right i havent been around as long as some of you on here but here is my 2p's worth
No but seriously, why speculate about whats going to happen and get into world war........35 i think it is on here.
From reading all the comments and taking them all in it looks and sounds like...
Some people on here are FANS, those who casually watch a match, but do not have the club’s best interest at heart – no matter the result! Your posts are showing just as much and you moan, get abusive and defensive when forum regulars and genuine SUPPORTERS pick up on such...
Now SUPPORTERS, which i include myself in are passionate, dedicated and loyal and most importantly embody everything that the club is all about. Supporting a club not only requires genuine love, but it requires that person to also honor and respect traditions, which is something a lot of FANS on here these days do not take into consideration.
At the moment the only person who knows whats happening with our club is Mr Kronky and until he changes anything we can only take his word and wait.
Would you say that misleading the supporters about the nature of this project and not explaining the ramifications of the decision to re-develop Highbury or its benefits to shareholders even as it cost Arsenal Football Club was part of the traditional way in which this club was run?
Would you say that the the possibility that the reason money went uninvested in the football the past several years was to help attract a buyer for the club and then push the share price from under 6000 to almost 12000 in that time was part of the traditional way this club was run by the Board of Suppporters who traditionally put the club's interests ahead of their own?
Would you say the fact that there are genuine concerns being raised that desoite guarantees to the contrary we could still be placed in a debt-leveraged situation and again our being mis-led then by everyone at the club we have historically trusted was part of the traditional way the club has been run?
No you can support this Club right down to your guts and marrow and beyind that to your very soul and still question all of this, Pingu, I'm afraid. In fact you should really precisely because you are a supporter and not just a fan.
augie wrote:Rigsby you can have a go at the fans for believing that kroenke would come in and make sweeping changes straight away but this certainly has all the feelings of a deja vu scenario and that worries me shitless For the past while now the only thing that has given me any hope is the prospect of a change in manager and/or a change in ownership but right now it certainly looks like the new ownership will bring more of the same with the manager and board remaining as a status quo
I would love to know how those defenders of this board and its policy feels right now For a long time now they have foolishly believed that the board were in the club for the long haul, they believed the board when they proclaimed their opposition to a single shareholder having control of the club but most importantly they naively believed that the lack of spending policy had nothing to do with driving up the share prices thus increasing their potential from a sale like this All that talk has now been exposed as the bullshit many of us have constantly said it was.
augie wrote:Teecee when arguing over the increase in ticket prices that will come from this takeover why didnt you just point to the 6% increase that the current board are putting on us for next season ? Cant blame kroenke for that
Oh that's easy....
our Board of proeper English Gentlemen are never wrong - everything that's gone wrong since 2006 is all down to that Frenchie manager and all his Johnny Foreigners, and everything that goes wrong from here is down to the dastardly Yank with the Pornstache(Waa kaa waa kaa waa waa) and his evil plans for Arsenal.
spinney12 wrote:i have a question not about the take over itself but more about fan movements.
Where does this leave the 'black scarf' movement and 'arsenal fc not plc' movements from this point?
As i see it, its now more a case of when kroenke takes full control of the club both of these movements will basically become static? With the initial goals i see of both groups mainly wanting to see the club achieve more rather than top 4 what now could possibly be done?
I feel all groups like this would need to be put on the back burner for some time to really see the mans intentions in the transfer market and the way the fans are being dealt with.
Personally I was always a supporter of the "Arsenal FC not Arsene FC" campaign and that movement should def remain pro-active If kroenke is true to his word about continuing the current policies then I would have thought that the concerns that the fans have remain the same therefore there would be no reason for those protest groups to disband
Martin you might feel vindicated by all of these events but as far as I am concerned wenger's mis-management is still as much of a factor today as it was 1 week ago and 1 month ago so dont think for one minute that the boards greed allows wenger to squirm off the hook. Fact is that this stubborn fool still needs to be replaced asap and the only sad thing is that event seems further away now than it did 3 days ago
TeeCee wrote:Herd - I realise you're not interested in the ticketing system at Arsenal, why would you be? you don't go to games, you just sit behind your keyboard wanking furiously at your own diatribe.
So according to reports, you are wrong about the leveraged debt then? What a surprise, a guy who never actually goes to support his team spouting off shite on an internet forum. You and US Martin should arrange a same sex marriage immediately so you can celebrate the only way you know how, with a bit of mutual man masturbation. You are truly a mug of epic proportions, and you'd be better off concentrating on daytime TV which is more your level. Cheerio.
Oh my get caught in what you are and you turn into a nasty little bitchy animal don't you.
Yopu a stooge for the Board whose blind loyalty i8s such that you prefer the Board fuck every Gooner yourself most of all just so long as you can pretend how unique and special they are.
The Arsenal way now is fuck the supporters and you are right there helping them because they are the Board and better than all of us together and therefore you must support them and lie for them. Tool.
You fucking little Weasel Youre an embarrassement USWeasel
How very appropriate that you take up arms for TeeCee since you think much the same way. It's funny how you get outraged over me calling him a bitchy little animal but completely ignore his post to Herd which frankly is digusting and cowardly and typical of TeeCee when he cannot win his argument - except when he just runs foo when that is the case.
The fact that you react as you do to what I wrote but completely ignore the garbage right above says it all about you. If I am embarssment in your eyes that is a badge of honour because that's better than being a proper decent fellow as you believe TeeCee is.
Go ahead explain how what he wrote is so much less offensive than what I wrote. no, let me guess that is playful banter....
augie wrote:Martin you might feel vindicated by all of these events but as far as I am concerned wenger's mis-management is still as much of a factor today as it was 1 week ago and 1 month ago so dont think for one minute that the boards greed allows wenger to squirm off the hook. Fact is that this stubborn fool still needs to be replaced asap and the only sad thing is that event seems further away now than it did 3 days ago
That's fine that you feel that way.
I politiely and respectfully disagree. The one thing I will say is historical precedent is on my side as is your own reading of the fects, despite your conclusion.
I would say that if the man deserves to go it is for being complicit by not protesting this action and the course leading up to it which compelled the shift in the spending policies. I would simply argue that if not for that shift it is almost certain we would have spent more and won more under Arsene Wenger since 2006, which is all I have argued all along.