Olivier Giroud - Another Alan Smith or "Le Chapman"?

[mcdowell42]

Has our 7m a season and 30 yrs in management genius said anything different in his post match interview

[donaldo]

Waiting for some idiot to come on and defend him and say judge him in his second season like Gervinho.And that it took Henry(26 goals in his first season) took time to acclimatise

Giround is no better than Bendtner

[defleppardisking]

He is brought in to replace RVP. Oh wait RVP just scored another goal for MU.

[falkirk goon]

He is brought in to replace RVP. Oh wait RVP just scored another goal for MU.

As sure as farts follow a curry that *word censored* scores le chapman he aint even good enough to replace bendy

[SteveO 35]

Giroud is decent, and is doing a job but he's not the "gifted" striker we all want and you really need in the Premiership. Neither is Walcott, so something needs to be addressed.

Pray tell me, what job would that be? Setting up the cones in training, washing the kit, making everyone a nice half time cuppa. Whatever fucking job it is doesn't happen when he crosses that white line because the fella is absolutely fucking shocking. Even one of my Palace supporting mates said he wouldn't swap him for Glenn Murray earlier today and then compared him to when they had Shefqi Kuqi.

Why is everyone surprised - this is a 27 year old bloke that has never ever been on anyone's radar (other than French 3rd division clubs fancying taking a 'never-will-be' on loan)

Honestly the more people defend the bloke, the more I cringe. As said elsewhere, we've heard the second season argument for Gervinho, Denilson and countless others. People that said Henry, Pires and Bergkamp had slow starts are missing a fundamental poinyt - they had proven quality to start with. This bloke will go on to appear in many 'worst' lists for both Arsenal and the Premier League. He'll be up there with Tomas Brolin and Stephane Guivarch on the list of jokers to appear at this level

[g88ner]

Giroud is decent, and is doing a job but he's not the "gifted" striker we all want and you really need in the Premiership. Neither is Walcott, so something needs to be addressed.

Pray tell me, what job would that be? Setting up the cones in training, washing the kit, making everyone a nice half time cuppa. Whatever fucking job it is doesn't happen when he crosses that white line because the fella is absolutely fucking shocking. Even one of my Palace supporting mates said he wouldn't swap him for Glenn Murray earlier today and then compared him to when they had Shefqi Kuqi.

Why is everyone surprised - this is a 27 year old bloke that has never ever been on anyone's radar (other than French 3rd division clubs fancying taking a 'never-will-be' on loan)

Honestly the more people defend the bloke, the more I cringe. As said elsewhere, we've heard the second season argument for Gervinho, Denilson and countless others. People that said Henry, Pires and Bergkamp had slow starts are missing a fundamental poinyt - they had proven quality to start with. This bloke will go on to appear in many 'worst' lists for both Arsenal and the Premier League. He'll be up there with Tomas Brolin and Stephane Guivarch on the list of jokers to appear at this level

Well, according to Wenger, we didn't sign Demba Ba because we've only just signed Giroud, and we need to give him a chance... now, naturally, that would suggest we won't be signing ANY striker, surely? after all, any striker capable of playing in our current system (1 isolated lone striker) is inevitably going to be direct competition for Giroud, therefore won't be joining.

Maybe I'm connecting too many dots here, but I don't think we're after a striker... and if we are, I think Wenger is looking more at signing a back-up striker (to replace Chamakh) than a first choice to replace Giroud.

Sorry to piss all over everyone's hope of us signing a striker

[Supagoon]

Sunderland Striker

no offense to the sunderland poster on here!

[SteveO 35]

Giroud is decent, and is doing a job but he's not the "gifted" striker we all want and you really need in the Premiership. Neither is Walcott, so something needs to be addressed.

Pray tell me, what job would that be? Setting up the cones in training, washing the kit, making everyone a nice half time cuppa. Whatever fucking job it is doesn't happen when he crosses that white line because the fella is absolutely fucking shocking. Even one of my Palace supporting mates said he wouldn't swap him for Glenn Murray earlier today and then compared him to when they had Shefqi Kuqi.

Why is everyone surprised - this is a 27 year old bloke that has never ever been on anyone's radar (other than French 3rd division clubs fancying taking a 'never-will-be' on loan)

Honestly the more people defend the bloke, the more I cringe. As said elsewhere, we've heard the second season argument for Gervinho, Denilson and countless others. People that said Henry, Pires and Bergkamp had slow starts are missing a fundamental poinyt - they had proven quality to start with. This bloke will go on to appear in many 'worst' lists for both Arsenal and the Premier League. He'll be up there with Tomas Brolin and Stephane Guivarch on the list of jokers to appear at this level

He's scored 10 goals, and has got a decent amount of assists too, and you watch the amount of times he'll create a chance in the box, I'd say he's doing alright. I watched Giroud's last couple of seasons at Montpellier and he's got alot more to his game than we're seeing.

It's no good comparing him to previous forwards, you've got to take in account the system we play and the type of forward he is, and what he contributes. The problem isn't Giroud, it's the fact we're trying to play a system we're frankly shite at and we're not getting the best out of Giroud and what he offers. However, if we're persisting playing this style, we might as well have kept Bendtner, he could do pretty much the same thing.

Answer this then - who was to blame for missing the game changing chance after 5 minutes. When Walcott puts that perfectly weighted pass on to his left peg, ten yards from goal with only Cech to beat, what part of the 'system' or comparisons to previous forwards is to blame for that. It is a simple fucking chance and if we signed super quality Charlie Austin I'd be saying the same thing.

Please for one minute forget about the lack of signings, Wenger's system etc etc and just watch the bloke's complete lack of technique. There is no excuse for that. None whatsoever.

[markyp]

to watch loic remy bang one in with his first shot in english football only goes rub more salt in the wounds.of all the strikers Wenker could have picked from the french first division he picks a carbon copy of camel(as if camel wasnt bad enough anyway) and big nose.Giroud is simply shit,his assists count for fuck all,when you play up front by the law of averages alone you will be involved in goals as you are nearer to the goal than your team mates,i thought gervinho was stand alone shit but Le chapman is running him close,in fact he is now running Lee chapman close

[milesgooner]

You have to give Giroud a fair crack of the whip, and that mean a season to adjust. Sure, he's not doing well at the moment but this is the GIC's fault. You buy 15m quid strikers and you are taking a gamble, whereas you buy a 30m quid striker you have every right to expect them to have the quality to hit the ground running.

[northbank123]

Giroud is decent, and is doing a job but he's not the "gifted" striker we all want and you really need in the Premiership. Neither is Walcott, so something needs to be addressed.

Walcott isn't gifted but he's shown signs of becoming effective. The only time Giroud looked dangeorus today was when he was knocking balls down in the last five or ten minutes, which is fine if you're going to be Stoke's emergency bench striker but not if you want to stand out at The Arsenal.

[p206ab]

If you go on youtube and write olivier giroud you find titles like Oliver Giroud - The next Thierry Henry, Meet the goal scoring Frenchmen, Olivier Giroud; Olivier Giroud - A Different Striker... really?

And I thought that only in England his best foot is his head, but based on this video, first minute, 8 goals, all with his best foot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5ikoO9bXyo

well personally, I still have hope he will get in form

[markyp]

You have to give Giroud a fair crack of the whip, and that mean a season to adjust. Sure, he's not doing well at the moment but this is the GIC's fault. You buy 15m quid strikers and you are taking a gamble, whereas you buy a 30m quid striker you have every right to expect them to have the quality to hit the ground running.

urm. . . . . .cough,but Ba was 7m and we could have had him on a free.15m and a need to adjust,thats ridiculous,did suarez need to adjust,you either have it or you dont.there is only one player in the whole time ive been alive some 39 years that has been shit( like giroud)in his first year then went on to be world class,and that is Drogba

[SteveO 35]

You have to give Giroud a fair crack of the whip, and that mean a season to adjust. Sure, he's not doing well at the moment but this is the GIC's fault. You buy 15m quid strikers and you are taking a gamble, whereas you buy a 30m quid striker you have every right to expect them to have the quality to hit the ground running.

urm. . . . . .cough,but Ba was 7m and we could have had him on a free.15m and a need to adjust,thats ridiculous,did suarez need to adjust,you either have it or you dont.there is only one player in the whole time ive been alive some 39 years that has been shit( like giroud)in his first year then went on to be world class,and that is Drogba

Just playing devil's advocate for a moment, but lets say we had signed Ba in January and his knee goes in February, would you be panning Wenger for signing another injury prone player?

Funny how the Wenger defenders have been using that argument about Ba ever since he left Hoffenheim and its never happened.

[donaldo]

You have to give Giroud a fair crack of the whip, and that mean a season to adjust. Sure, he's not doing well at the moment but this is the GIC's fault. You buy 15m quid strikers and you are taking a gamble, whereas you buy a 30m quid striker you have every right to expect them to have the quality to hit the ground running.

Like we gave Gervinho a season to adjust