Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
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lets hope this is true and Peyton walks.if you surround yourself with losers then you become losers,where does your inspiration come from??mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
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markyp wrote:lets hope this is true and Peyton walks.if you surround yourself with losers then you become losers,where does your inspiration come from??mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
And whose fault is it that the klingon, diaby, denilson, bendtner and wally are not good enough then ? Peyton gets a lot of flak for our goalkeeping weaknesses when maybe it should be down to a lack of quality in the keepers themselves (or arrogance in chesney's case) ?
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Personally I would prefer Big Dave (see how I avoided the easy Seaman joke) to Jens due to his calmness as to Jens' eccentric style.mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
Not sure if DS has done his coaching badges ? but Jens was / is working his way through his, while at London Colney.
Could / Should have done this 2/3 years ago in my opinion.
None of our goalkeepers cover themselves in glory on a regular basis, so I think a change is welcome and long overdue - hopefully to coincide with the experienced keeper to challenge for no1 that we should have had 3 years ago to mentor Schez.
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Personally I would prefer Big Dave (see how I avoided the easy Seaman joke) to Jens due to his calmness as to Jens' eccentric style.mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
Not sure if DS has done his coaching badges ? but Jens was / is working his way through his, while at London Colney.
Could / Should have done this 2/3 years ago in my opinion.
None of our goalkeepers cover themselves in glory on a regular basis, so I think a change is welcome and long overdue - hopefully to coincide with the experienced keeper to challenge for no1 that we should have had 3 years ago to mentor Schez.
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markyp wrote:lets hope this is true and Peyton walks.if you surround yourself with losers then you become losers,where does your inspiration come from??mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
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The Vorm has turned: Arsenal line up Swansea keeper as replacement for Wojciech Szczesny
Gunners could activate an affordable get-out clause in the Dutchman's contract - and are also monitoring Skrtel's situation at Liverpool
Dutch of class: Vorm has impressed since arriving at Swansea
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Arsene Wenger is weighing up a summer move for Swansea keeper Michel Vorm as he looks to replace Wojciech Szczesny as Arsenal’s No.1, writes the Sunday People.
The Gunners are aware they could activate an ‘affordable’ get-out clause in the Dutchman’s contract and have been closely watching the 29-year-old.
Szczesny’s poor form prompted Wenger to drop him for the midweek clash with Bayern Munich.
The Arsenal boss could be looking for two new keepers if Szczesny and fellow Pole Lukasz Fabianski are off-loaded.
Liverpool’s Pepe Reina is also a long-term target , along with Stoke’s Asmir Begovic – but he seems certain to join Manchester United.
Wenger could boost Liverpool and Swansea’s bank balances even further as he looks to make changes at the heart of his defence, with Martin Skrtel and Ashley Williams at the top of his list .
But it is Vorm who has impressed Arsenal scouts the most after a cut-price move from Utrecht to Swansea in the summer of 2011.
He is under contract at the Liberty Stadium for another three years but Wenger has the funds to tempt Swansea into selling.
Poles apart: Szczesny has made a number of high-profile errors this season
Mike Hewitt
Vorm dismissed Arsenal’s chances of qualifying for next season’s Champions League in the build-up to yesterday’s clash with his suitors. But the keeper could end up at the Emirates, whether in the Champions or Europa League.
Barcelona will play a key role in Wenger’s transfer dealings. They need long-term replacements for Eric Abidal and Carles Puyol and are weighing up a move for Thomas Vermaelen.
Wenger will consider offers in the region of £15million for the defender, who is considered to have gone off the boil since learning of Barca’s interest.
That will pave the way for him to sign a new centre-half.
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers will allow Skrtel, who is out of favour at Anfield, to leave for around £13m.
The Gunners will face competition for Skrtel from Russian side Zenit St Petersburg if they decide to step up their interest, while they will also face a battle for the highly-rated Williams with Liverpool and Manchester United.
Williams has made it clear to Swansea, who would want at least £10m for him, that he wants to leave if a big club comes in for him this summer.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... er-1769350
Yes please. Quality 'keeper.
Gunners could activate an affordable get-out clause in the Dutchman's contract - and are also monitoring Skrtel's situation at Liverpool
Dutch of class: Vorm has impressed since arriving at Swansea
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Arsene Wenger is weighing up a summer move for Swansea keeper Michel Vorm as he looks to replace Wojciech Szczesny as Arsenal’s No.1, writes the Sunday People.
The Gunners are aware they could activate an ‘affordable’ get-out clause in the Dutchman’s contract and have been closely watching the 29-year-old.
Szczesny’s poor form prompted Wenger to drop him for the midweek clash with Bayern Munich.
The Arsenal boss could be looking for two new keepers if Szczesny and fellow Pole Lukasz Fabianski are off-loaded.
Liverpool’s Pepe Reina is also a long-term target , along with Stoke’s Asmir Begovic – but he seems certain to join Manchester United.
Wenger could boost Liverpool and Swansea’s bank balances even further as he looks to make changes at the heart of his defence, with Martin Skrtel and Ashley Williams at the top of his list .
But it is Vorm who has impressed Arsenal scouts the most after a cut-price move from Utrecht to Swansea in the summer of 2011.
He is under contract at the Liberty Stadium for another three years but Wenger has the funds to tempt Swansea into selling.
Poles apart: Szczesny has made a number of high-profile errors this season
Mike Hewitt
Vorm dismissed Arsenal’s chances of qualifying for next season’s Champions League in the build-up to yesterday’s clash with his suitors. But the keeper could end up at the Emirates, whether in the Champions or Europa League.
Barcelona will play a key role in Wenger’s transfer dealings. They need long-term replacements for Eric Abidal and Carles Puyol and are weighing up a move for Thomas Vermaelen.
Wenger will consider offers in the region of £15million for the defender, who is considered to have gone off the boil since learning of Barca’s interest.
That will pave the way for him to sign a new centre-half.
Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers will allow Skrtel, who is out of favour at Anfield, to leave for around £13m.
The Gunners will face competition for Skrtel from Russian side Zenit St Petersburg if they decide to step up their interest, while they will also face a battle for the highly-rated Williams with Liverpool and Manchester United.
Williams has made it clear to Swansea, who would want at least £10m for him, that he wants to leave if a big club comes in for him this summer.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... er-1769350
Yes please. Quality 'keeper.
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Although he's not as good as the hype last season Vorm is still a good keeper (if a little suspect in the air from what I've seen of him - not enough to make a firm decision). At 29 he's got years ahead of him but also wouldn't kill Szczesny's AFC career (and at the end of the day although that has been a pathetically overused excuse I think it holds some weight when considering signing another fairly talented keeper in the 20-25 bracket). Healthy competition, that's for sure. Says he has a buy-out clause and in any event Swansea have a decent back-up (Tremmel maybe?) and would likely let him go for a reasonable fee.
Signing a keeper isn't like other positions where you can go out and get a good deal on a quality player any given summer. It's very much a case of having to pounce when the opportunity arises to sign a keeper like Lloris. Saying that quality keepers like van der Sar and Given were realistically available for years and nobody would pay relatively modest fees to snap them up. I would personally like to see us sign Begovic as I rate him and he wouldn't cost the Earth, although Pulis wouldn't want to sell us a cold and would undoubtedly kick up a fuss in the press to try and extort us and get United or somebody else interested.
Signing a keeper isn't like other positions where you can go out and get a good deal on a quality player any given summer. It's very much a case of having to pounce when the opportunity arises to sign a keeper like Lloris. Saying that quality keepers like van der Sar and Given were realistically available for years and nobody would pay relatively modest fees to snap them up. I would personally like to see us sign Begovic as I rate him and he wouldn't cost the Earth, although Pulis wouldn't want to sell us a cold and would undoubtedly kick up a fuss in the press to try and extort us and get United or somebody else interested.
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Are Arsenal pushing Vermaelen towards the exit over injury misinformation?
On February 9th, Belgium's leading sport section, Sport Wereld, published a story which went largely unnoticed in England. Sport Wereld said that Thomas Vermaelen would be out of action for Arsenal for two to three weeks because he was struggling with an ankle injury and could even need surgery. They said that he'd been getting injections in order to try and fight off the issue and let him play, but that it hadn't worked.
Sport Wereld said the ankle had inflamed more druing the previous week and that he needed to rest it for a minimum of two weeks and probably three, and if it wasn't sorted out by then an operation would be a looming possibility. That was on February 9th, Vermaelen played the full match against Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup on the 16th which was just a week later. He then turned out again after just three days to again play a full game against Bayern Munich on the 19th and then again on the 23rd against Aston Villa.
In the two weeks which Sport Wereld said was the minimum he'd be out, he played three full and important games and, not surprisingly, his performances weren't what you'd associate with the best of the Belgian. He then had another break and was thrown into the derby against Tottenham, which again wasn't a great performance, leading him to be an unused substitute against Bayern Munich.
Following the match in Germany, Wenger was asked about Vermaelen's status within the team and whether the fact he was captain made it harder to drop him. The Arsenal manager is quoted by the Guardian as saying "Who is a captain and a leader shouldn't guarantee you a place in any team. In England it's true ... the captaincy is of massive importance.
"But for purely sporting reasons, or tactical reasons in the game, when you don't think it is the right selection, do you put the player in just as he is captain? That is disrespectful to the guy who doesn't play. For sporting reasons, it is not completely justifiable."
Wenger made a passing reference to the injury situation by saying that performance sometimes "suffers a little bit from that," but still didn't really paint Vermaelen as anything other than a player who had dropped off form and was struggling to maintain his place in the team as captain. Rather than being painted as Arsenal's captain, willing to drag his body over the line for them, he was just put together with other out of form Arsenal players, the club's current misfits.
Assuming that Sport Wereld are right, and they had no reason to lie, then Vermalen can be forgiven for getting a little irritated with the situation. He carries an injury, has injections to enable him to play, comes back quicker than advice suggests he should, inevitably plays badly and then finds stories all over the media that he's been dropped.
Vermaelen harms his own fitness by putting off required rest and/or treatment, rushes back much sooner than recommended, to help Wenger and the team and then hears stories about he not being too big to be dropped and struggling with form, his injury only given a passing mention as if it weren't the real reason.
Only the Belgian will know if it is or isn't, but if it's the former then he's going to be getting irritated, it's only natural. He's putting himself on the line when perhaps he should refuse for the sake of his long-term fitness, and because he can't play to the best of his ability he's receiving criticism for it and not getting protection he may feel he deserves, any normal human being would get annoyed.
Should the often rumoured (again by The Mirror in February) approach from Barcelona, or another big club for that matter, come in then this is surely going to make Vermaelen consider it more than he may have done previously. Arsenal fans may not be too bothered by that given his recent form, but then if he was given a chance to get fit, he could probably show them the reason he was made captain in the first place.
Are Arsenal pushing Vermaelen towards the exit over injury misinformation?
On February 9th, Belgium's leading sport section, Sport Wereld, published a story which went largely unnoticed in England. Sport Wereld said that Thomas Vermaelen would be out of action for Arsenal for two to three weeks because he was struggling with an ankle injury and could even need surgery. They said that he'd been getting injections in order to try and fight off the issue and let him play, but that it hadn't worked.
Sport Wereld said the ankle had inflamed more druing the previous week and that he needed to rest it for a minimum of two weeks and probably three, and if it wasn't sorted out by then an operation would be a looming possibility. That was on February 9th, Vermaelen played the full match against Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup on the 16th which was just a week later. He then turned out again after just three days to again play a full game against Bayern Munich on the 19th and then again on the 23rd against Aston Villa.
In the two weeks which Sport Wereld said was the minimum he'd be out, he played three full and important games and, not surprisingly, his performances weren't what you'd associate with the best of the Belgian. He then had another break and was thrown into the derby against Tottenham, which again wasn't a great performance, leading him to be an unused substitute against Bayern Munich.
Following the match in Germany, Wenger was asked about Vermaelen's status within the team and whether the fact he was captain made it harder to drop him. The Arsenal manager is quoted by the Guardian as saying "Who is a captain and a leader shouldn't guarantee you a place in any team. In England it's true ... the captaincy is of massive importance.
"But for purely sporting reasons, or tactical reasons in the game, when you don't think it is the right selection, do you put the player in just as he is captain? That is disrespectful to the guy who doesn't play. For sporting reasons, it is not completely justifiable."
Wenger made a passing reference to the injury situation by saying that performance sometimes "suffers a little bit from that," but still didn't really paint Vermaelen as anything other than a player who had dropped off form and was struggling to maintain his place in the team as captain. Rather than being painted as Arsenal's captain, willing to drag his body over the line for them, he was just put together with other out of form Arsenal players, the club's current misfits.
Assuming that Sport Wereld are right, and they had no reason to lie, then Vermalen can be forgiven for getting a little irritated with the situation. He carries an injury, has injections to enable him to play, comes back quicker than advice suggests he should, inevitably plays badly and then finds stories all over the media that he's been dropped.
Vermaelen harms his own fitness by putting off required rest and/or treatment, rushes back much sooner than recommended, to help Wenger and the team and then hears stories about he not being too big to be dropped and struggling with form, his injury only given a passing mention as if it weren't the real reason.
Only the Belgian will know if it is or isn't, but if it's the former then he's going to be getting irritated, it's only natural. He's putting himself on the line when perhaps he should refuse for the sake of his long-term fitness, and because he can't play to the best of his ability he's receiving criticism for it and not getting protection he may feel he deserves, any normal human being would get annoyed.
Should the often rumoured (again by The Mirror in February) approach from Barcelona, or another big club for that matter, come in then this is surely going to make Vermaelen consider it more than he may have done previously. Arsenal fans may not be too bothered by that given his recent form, but then if he was given a chance to get fit, he could probably show them the reason he was made captain in the first place.
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Well it would certain.y bring a improvement to Szczesny's overall game.mcdowell42 wrote:Arsene Wenger to add Jens Lehmann or David Seaman to goalkeeping staff?
By Paul Gorst, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 08:55 UK
Last Updated: Sunday, March 17, 2013 at 10:46 UK
Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger is reportedly pondering a move to bring former goalkeepers David Seaman or Jens Lehmann onto the coaching staff at the club.
According to The Mirror, the Gunners boss is planning a shake-up of his goalkeeping department and is thinking about moving for either Lehmann or Seaman, both of whom represented the club with distinction during their time with the Londoners.
Wenger has been perturbed by current goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny's dip in form and rested the Pole for their Champions League exit at Bayern Munich on Wednesday.
Seaman was part of the team that won the double in 1998, while Lehmann kept goal during the 'Arsenal Invincibles' season of 2003-04.
It is unsure whether the arrival of either man will mean the end of current goalkeeping coach Gerry Peyton's stay with the club.
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I would laugh at the notion of Barcelona approach for him but then again they signed Song for £16m so who knows? Tbh they could play CFs at CB and it wouldn't matter such is the quality of their other players and their opposition.
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It's good that we could be signing a player who is experienced in the battles for 4th place
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Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes wants to join Arsenal and could be set for a transfer this summer.
The Camp Nou ‘keeper has already told Gunners boss Arsene Wenger that he wants to move to north London.
http://www.givemefootball.com/335437-ba ... e-a-gunner
The Camp Nou ‘keeper has already told Gunners boss Arsene Wenger that he wants to move to north London.
http://www.givemefootball.com/335437-ba ... e-a-gunner
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I would fucking love Valdes - I've been a bit critical of him in the past but that's chalking him up against his Barcelona team-mates. He is a much better keeper than Szczesny and would definitely be one of the stand-out keepers in the league, has won just about everything at club level and at 31 would also be an ideal age for us.Top Londoner wrote:Barcelona goalkeeper Victor Valdes wants to join Arsenal and could be set for a transfer this summer.
The Camp Nou ‘keeper has already told Gunners boss Arsene Wenger that he wants to move to north London.
http://www.givemefootball.com/335437-ba ... e-a-gunner
He's made it clear he wants a new challenge and he's very much jumping rather than being pushed. Can't see who else in England would trump us and I genuinely believe he would come to us, and given his desire to move he wouldn't cost that much either. Doubt very much it will happen but it really should otherwise I fear we'll be looking back in 3 years time with our keeping situation still in dire straits lamenting us let another quality keeper go elsewhere.
