armchair wrote:SPUDMASHER wrote:armchair wrote:SPUDMASHER wrote:As I said in a recent post, I would have liked him to go with his head held high but that just isn't possible now. This season alone he has totally destroyed his relationship with many fans.I now accept that he just has to go, period.
Oh good. Spuddy has spoken. We can all go home now. Close the thread on the way out. Its official now.
Glad you're still reading my posts. It's nice to know I have a fan. If I ever get to meet you I will autograph your tits for you if you'd like me to!
If you had read earlier posts though, before you became a fan of mine, you'd know I've been saying that for a while!
I'd also suggest that if you have nothing to contribute to the thread then just don't bother posting. Doing so purely to have a dig at me just shows that you're not really capable of reasoned discussion and just make you sound like a child. There's no point in being a keyboard warrior if there isn't any substance to your words is there!
Not at all spuddy. Just delighted that after all these years of you relentlessy arguing for him, defending, excusing and apologising for Wenger. Making up excuses like he had no money or the board held back money cause of the stadium etc, you have finally decided that, well, it was all a load of old bollox and.............
"Wenger needs to go, period"
Oh right ok then
All that time you wasted defending him only for him to blame you (and the other fans) as the reason he failed again.
Now that you"ve decided you were wrong its refreshing to hear you admit it and be so gracious about it. If only all the other AKBs who have #flipflopped were like you and held their hands up and admitted they were wrong and all of the bullshit arguments and excuses for years were all a crock of shit.
Spuddy has now announced "Wenger must go"...... I feel vindicated.
You shouldn't because when the assault on him started the comments were quite valid and I haven't exactly said that as a result of any argument you've offered. I said that some time ago.
There is an element of our support that has a sense of entitlement built into them. What they fail to realise is that apart from during the 1930's the club had never had a sustained period of success until the period between 1996 and 2004/5. We'd picked up regular trophies, one every few years and even gone back to back years once or twice. Unfortunately AW instilled that entitlement in them further by delivering what they craved and yet within 2 years of not winning anything he was being questioned. At that time that was totally unreasonable. Now after many years of not winning the title it is more justified. What people need to remember though is that we have no right to win anything!
The problem is when the club puts out positive spin about being one of 'the big four' and a 'top team' they themselves add to that entitlement and cause their own problems.
The reason I decided that enough is enough is the level of contempt being shown to the fans, not just by Wenger but by the club as a whole. He is the front man of that organisation and seems happy to be so. If that's the case then he is the man who should go. There's also the continuous failure of the team and I think that is partly about complacency on the part of the players and partly that he has run out of ideas. When he came here his methods were ahead of his time. Now he has stood still whilst everyone else has caught up and passed him. There also doesn't seem to be the nasty side of management in the dressing room. Can you imagine him having a hairdryer session? I can't. That actually motivates many players but I get the feeling with ours that they're happy to just plod along doing their own thing whilst he sits back and says nothing. For that reason I think we also need a clear out of those players too.
Whoever does take over eventually, and I do maintain that it won't be for a while yet simply because that is what I honestly believe (which doesn't mean I agree with it), will benefit from Wenger's time at the club. Arsenal have always been a club that punched above its weight. Now we have the infrastructure behind us to be a genuine big hitter. Anyone that thinks Wenger doesn't deserve some credit for that is an idiot. No it doesn't justify the last few years of groundhog day but it cannot be totally forgotten either.
I genuinely believe that any form of protest is valid and legitimate. I just honestly don't think this club give a shit about it though. I hope I'm proven wrong so we can move on, start competing again and so I can start going back to the ground again.
