They are a cult up there with North Korea armchairarmchair wrote:Wenger supporters......"We're a massive club, what player wouldnt want to come to us?"
but also
"Wenger has massively over-achieved getting us top four every season"
Am I missing something or do thes two statements not jive?
helmets each and everyone of them.The king of spin has made all of his followers spin bullshitters..
Well saidxisstential wrote:I do not even understand WHY we need " to be careful what we wish for"
We are a big club, or we were anyway... so are we meeting expectations or are we over achieving?? Neither, we are underachieving, and have been for years. Yet Wenger has somehow sold CL qualification as the pinnacle. I can understand him bullshitting a no nothing like Kroenke but how can our fans & all of the media fall for this crap???
Basically what they are all saying is this.... If Wenger leaves, you might not get into the CL where you will finish 2nd in your group, meet one of the big guns in the first round of the KO's where you will either be hammered or experience "glorious defeat" The endeavours in this lost cause campaign will negatively affect your PL & FA cup campaigns and all the money from Europe will be banked, with a tiny portion spent on poor signings and a HUGE amount on wages for sub standard players who are loyal to Wenger.
Yea we really need to be careful, none of us would want to lose out on the above would we.
I have been wishing for many years now that we would finish below 4th, Fourth place is Wenger's "Judge me in May" target.
Watch the lap of honour to rapturous applause after the Villa game. Yet another incredible achievement for Wenger, how does he do it.
It does though, because it doesn't include the 'expected goals'!StuartL wrote:What's the difference between Arsene Wenker and the league table ?
The league table doesn't lie.
Nor does it have stats columns for the Hand Brake effect nor the Leetle bit jaded situation.VoiceOfReason wrote:It does though, because it doesn't include the 'expected goals'!StuartL wrote:What's the difference between Arsene Wenker and the league table ?
The league table doesn't lie.
Stop being logical mate, there is no place for it in the wonderful world ofArsene FCarmchair wrote:Wenger supporters......"We're a massive club, what player wouldnt want to come to us?"
but also
"Wenger has massively over-achieved getting us top four every season"
Am I missing something or do thes two statements not jive?
How exactly do you "upset the balance" of a Wenger team that NEVER looks balanced??GoonerMuzz wrote:Stop being logical mate, there is no place for it in the wonderful world ofArsene FCarmchair wrote:Wenger supporters......"We're a massive club, what player wouldnt want to come to us?"
but also
"Wenger has massively over-achieved getting us top four every season"
Am I missing something or do thes two statements not jive?
I'll be honest as well, i think there are quite a large group of our supporters these days who think top 4 in the league and champions league last 16 is the sign of a successful club.
I think winning trophies is no longer important to many people as long as we get glorious away nights in Athens, Zagreb and Barcelona and the bank balance stays rosey.
I honestly think Leicester winning the league may have a reverse effect as many of our fans will not put it down to the manager and players doing the right thing but simply to being a fluke of nature that we'll never see again.
2 really telling examples for me over the weekend of where we and English football stand:
Fletch and Sav on Saturday they were talking about Leicester's ability to compete with the big teams in the transfer market, funnily enough Arsenal was not mentioned but Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spuds and even West Ham were and how Leicester would have to be very careful about upsetting the balance in the dressing room but you never hear it mentioned about the other big teams but i've heard it used as an excuse by AW before now.
The second example of things was on MotD where all the talk about next season was how Leicester would do in the CL group, no talk of possibilities beyond that but the intimation was that participation was success enough, who does that remind you of?
So it's not just our club that the expectations have been lowered at but it seems the whole media thinks English football has become a participation is good enough thing now unless you are Man U, Shitty or Chavski (Liverpool has always been an odd one in terms of Europe).
Obviously you haven't been 30 years in footballStuartL wrote:What's the difference between Arsene Wenker and the league table ?
The league table doesn't lie.
He actually says that by getting a point against man city we go into the game against villa 'on a high' jesuss H christ - Where the fuckk is his carer?Dan_85 wrote:
This guy ffs. Every AKB cliche rolled into one.
