As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Bradywasking wrote:Just saw on Sky website that Arsenal would be Champions if shots against the post or crossbar counted as goals...So another trophy for Arsene's Arsenal, hope this one is made out of wood rather than silver. .
If lamposts counted as centre forwards we'd have won the CL as well.
I thank God every day that Sky came and saved football. How did we cope without their in-depth analysis of the game ?!
Yes. There was no football pre Sky..Love their pointless exercise of picking a starting line up from two teams playing each other..
Or comparing players by using their ratings on football manager
Ohhhh ! Yeah Rodders and what about this little bit of 'Sky' ????????
xisstential wrote:Chelsea will be stronger. Manchester City will represent an entirely different proposition. Tottenham will look to kick on further.Something has to give at Arsenal.
Leicester are champions. Jurgen Klopp's first full season at Liverpool could be dangerous. West Ham and Southampton will strengthen again this summer.
Every journo seems to know what is going to happen, what needs to happen at all the contending clubs. Except of course at our little club where we will have to wait & see what the fuck Wenger decides to do. He is staying of course, that's a given, but what else is he gonna do?? My guess is fuck around a leetle in the market, offloading some of the shite in exchange for some cheaper shite and then basically see how it goes from there.......
Exciting times ahead, can't wait.
all true apart from scum. they wont kick on. they will stay still as they did this season when they took advantage of everyone elses decline.
tony evans the cretinous scouser in the standard says the balance of power in n london has shifted now and tottenham are here to stay...facking idiot. he hates arsenal properly. what a prick. yes we are crap until aw goes but they are still shite too.
We should be kicking on and surging forward. But Wenger showcases a level of complacency and its picked up by the likes of Ozil and Sanchez, whose future at the club is uncertain at best. Then you have Wenger defending Walcott and saying Giroud will be the number 1 striker next year. Put it all together, and it really just kills of any optimism or hope going forward.
Nothing will ever change. He thinks the club is his own, and he can do whatever he likes and everyone should just accept it as in the best interest of Arsenal, simply because Arsene says it so.
You have absolute dick heads saying things like 'if Sanchez wants to leave, let him'. WHAT?? What is that shit? If Sanchez wants to leave, it should cause everyone to reflect on why such a player could only take two years at the club before deciding he could do better. Yet even Sanchez does leave, the likes of John Cross will say things 'now more than ever, Arsenal fans have to unite behind the manager'. Full well ignoring the fact Sanchez left because he has no faith in Wenger's Arsenal to win major trophies.
it happens in aspects of life - when a major set back occurs, it causes the masses to unite behind the leader. But when the leader is contributing to the setbacks? How do you get behind him?
it happens in aspects of life - when a major set back occurs, it causes the masses to unite behind the leader. But when the leader is contributing to the setbacks? How do you get behind him?[/quote]
Greedy, ungrateful Man.U supporters demanding LVG fucks off with most "pundits" & Journo's supporting them.
But we, at little Arsenal, need to be eternally grateful that we have CL football again. Forget about 2nd place, this season has been another failure, another one of treading water and once again we have qualified for a competition we have ZERO chance of winning.
Anyone ever watch one of Gordon Ramsey's shows, were he tastes the food of a contestant - and its absolute sh.., but the contestant is so invested in the idea he/she is a great chef, that they dismiss the idea something they made isnt brilliant. Or when a tone deaf contestant appears before Simon Cowell, and horrors everyone by butchering a classic, and when they are told they are sh.. - they dont believe it, as they have for years bought into the idea they are a great singer.
I get this feeling with Wenger. He is so invested in the idea he is a brilliant manager, that he cannot entertain the idea a player he signed, be it, Walcott, Giroud or Almunia, Denilson, Gervinho before them, arnt brilliant players.
He buys a player, and thats it - they are brilliant simply on the basis Wenger signed him. As given Wenger see's himself as a brilliant manager with incredible foresight, it means in his own mind, a player he signed cannot be anything else other than world class.
Wenger is just like those contestants on X factor and Hells Kitchen - delusional, in denial, with no sense of perspective.
Wilson wrote:Anyone ever watch one of Gordon Ramsey's shows, were he tastes the food of a contestant - and its absolute sh.., but the contestant is so invested in the idea he/she is a great chef, that they dismiss the idea something they made isnt brilliant. Or when a tone deaf contestant appears before Simon Cowell, and horrors everyone by butchering a classic, and when they are told they are sh.. - they dont believe it, as they have for years bought into the idea they are a great singer.
I get this feeling with Wenger. He is so invested in the idea he is a brilliant manager, that he cannot entertain the idea a player he signed, be it, Walcott, Giroud or Almunia, Denilson, Gervinho before them, arnt brilliant players.
He buys a player, and thats it - they are brilliant simply on the basis Wenger signed him. As given Wenger see's himself as a brilliant manager with incredible foresight, it means in his own mind, a player he signed cannot be anything else other than world class.
Wenger is just like those contestants on X factor and Hells Kitchen - delusional, in denial, with no sense of perspective.
The sad thing is you are not saying anything that hasn't been said a million times on here since 2010 (and in a few cases 2008) and here we are in 2016 and nothing has changed. That's not a pop at you Wilson, just a reflection on how long this shit has been going on and there are still a huge number of AKB's that cannot (or will not) see it.
supergeorgegraham wrote:We can't sum up this season and Wengers record without looking at our players..............
Nobody on here will say that Sanchez and Ozil are bad buys but they both had medium seasons especially Sanchez................
Mind you I'm not talking about them it's really all about the players he has invested time and money in................
You can add Ox Chamberlain to the club as well but Theo showed a lack of everything this season when we needed him..................
That's how I see it the boss was shafted from certain players.
You forgot to blame the fans mate. Dont forget it was the nasty fans not getting behind the team.
It cant have anything at all to do with Wenger not strengthening the outfield squad over two windows. No. Not at all, its the players.
Of course it is.
I think you miss my point slightly. Of course it's the fact he didn't strengthen the outfield squad that we failed but the reason why was to give the current players more playing time. Now it looks like he wants to keep Walcott instead of having a decent clear out and bringing in new talent. As I said Wenger is far too loyal and that's why we will never win the Premier League or Champions League with him in charge.
supergeorgegraham wrote:We can't sum up this season and Wengers record without looking at our players. Nobody on here will say that Sanchez and Ozil are bad buys but they both had medium seasons especially Sanchez. To win the League they have to be on top form like Henry was most weeks.
Don't agree at all.
Ozil had most PL assists this season with 19. Closest to him? Erikson with 13. Even the much lauded Mahrez and Dele Alli only had 11 and 9 respectively.
What most people don't seem to get about Ozil is that providing assists is his game. He was top assists provider in Europe for 3 consecutive seasons at Madrid. He is not a midfield workhorse or a striker. He is a creator.
No coincidence that he provided 16 of those assists before Xmas and then only 3 after Xmas - when we were still mostly playing Giroud up front during his longest ever goal drought and worst form of all time and Feo during his continued shitness! Ozil was still supplying "chances" but neither Giroud or Feo was taking them to convert them into assists.
BTW Ozil created 54 "chances" this season - the most in all 5 "Big Leagues" in Europe. Put a top quality striker (or 2 strikers in a 4-4-2) in front of him in the number 10 role and you can add 20 to 40 goals per season to our tally.
Not sure that I agree entirely that Sanchez or Ozil had 'medium' seasons, I think it is more a reflection on the players round them, a number of whom have dragged others down.
Sanchez can't always do everything himself, but he always seems to give 100% even if he is a little bit off-form. And he must spend half his life on a plane to and from South America too, though probably not in Economy.
What we are missing, and have been for years and years, is that striker who has searing pace off of the mark, over 10 yards. Imagine Neymar or Suarez being fed in by Ozil, and you see what I mean. To often over the last few years, our striker played through turns inside instead of going straight at goal, and momentum is lost. It could once have been Walcott, but it seems he's lost it.
If you have a Ferrari, then sitting in a queue of traffic on the way to Sainsbury's maybe isn't making the best use of it, even though it is still nice for everyone else to look at.
LVG has been receiving dog's abuse at Man Utd (and rightly so) quite simply because Man Utd are a BIG club that aspires to win trophies i.e. the expectations are higher
We are NOT a 'big' club - big clubs don't go 12 years without a league title and get turd-holed in the last 16 of the Champs League every year (on top of never actually winning the fucker)
We are rich, also-rans with a fan-base and manager who not just accept, but celebrate being among the top 4 without actually winning anything of note; a rich man's Everton/Newcastle
I for one will be done with this 'sports franchise' if that serial loser signs a new deal, as much as it saddens me to say
xisstential wrote:Greedy, ungrateful Man.U supporters demanding LVG fucks off with most "pundits" & Journo's supporting them.
But we, at little Arsenal, need to be eternally grateful that we have CL football again. Forget about 2nd place, this season has been another failure, another one of treading water and once again we have qualified for a competition we have ZERO chance of winning.
But if we say anything, we are "ungrateful"
And it is constantly given out as a success, the fact that TOF has lumbered us with this again. The AKBs have failed to notice that it’s never going to be our year because TOF never even tries to win the group let alone the trophy itself. He just wants the prize money for reaching the last 16.
Not sure if this has been mentioned or if anyone cares, but the akb's must have been baffled and bewildered that their messiah was not even nominated in the manager of the season vote.
Ranieri obviously won it, but the only other runners were Pochettino, Bilic, Howe, and Guidolin.
This after finishing the highest in the league for 10 years.
Maybe people really are now seeing right through Le Fraud.
foxinthebox2001 wrote:Not sure if this has been mentioned or if anyone cares, but the akb's must have been baffled and bewildered that their messiah was not even nominated in the manager of the season vote.
Ranieri obviously won it, but the only other runners were Pochettino, Bilic, Howe, and Guidolin.
This after finishing the highest in the league for 10 years.
Maybe people really are now seeing right through Le Fraud.
Nah Fox it was all rigged i tell you, how could Le Prof possibly not be included
Thinking about the season stats. Ozil created 144 chances in league matches. Cech won golden gloves for 16 clean sheets. Hit the woodwork 21 times. Yet we finished second, 10 points behind the winners.
I wonder where did it all go wrong Mr (30 years working in football) Wenger?
