As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
So who would you have as a spokesperson for the WOB mate?
Someone with an ounce of charisma,isnt monosylabic and above all without a stupid clock end tattoed on his fat neck !
The reality is that whatever their views on Wenger the only sort of bloke who would want to be a spokesperson/Arsenal Fan TV celebrity is somebody who desperately craves attention and is therefore likely to be a bellend of some sort.
I always thought DT articulates himself pretty well on Arsenal Fan TV though not so much on his own channel.
If you are doing a banner protest, the whole point is to draw attention to it...
There is a difference between displaying banners and being a fanboy with your own YouTube channel.
I don't actually watch any garbage like AFTV so I'm speaking in general terms - if you want somebody to be a spokesperson on social media etc then you are not going to get anybody who doesn't love the limelight.
NickF wrote:
I always thought DT articulates himself pretty well on Arsenal Fan TV though not so much on his own channel.
If you are doing a banner protest, the whole point is to draw attention to it...
I agree Nick. The banner protests were dead in the water until DT got the memories banner out from under someones bed and actually showed it. He breathed new life into it, gave it a focus and a face. Now the protests have an identity and a focus.
Because of what he did the banner protests were reinvigorated and actually began to draw media attention to criticism of Wengers failure rather than what would have been praise for another top four finish.
DT in reality is not a "bellend", rather a nice, ordinary, bloke who like a lot of us has had enough of Wenger and decided to take proactive, direct action to try to change the status quo. If, as a result of that he gets 15mins of internet "fame" and enjoys it, so what? And so what if he has a tattoo fs?
Fair play to him is what I say. I'd rather he takes the abuse from Wenger supporters and childish comments from begrudging assholes sniping at him on internet forums than me.
Yes agree with above, anyone who took that mantle on was there to be shot down......
He does put his case over well, and i have to say i have never disagreed with anything he has said, fair play to the guy
Don't think he is doing it next season, don't blame him, thankless task that one
No matter what or how he conducted himself - which Personally I think he has done extremely well - he was always going to be called names and ridiculed and abused - in person, in the media and on numerous forums - But for me he has always been articulate and bang on the money.
He is Gooner through and through and at least he had the balls to put his head above the parapet and stand his ground both physically and verbally.
OneBardGooner wrote:That's a question many of us have considered for many a season - but especially of late - a question we are not allowed to voice on here.
What question is that? - I think I've missed something
You can voice any sensible opinion on here can't you?
Really! Can we?
Okay.
Where's Quartz????
He's gone. Leave it.
If Quartz is gone, does that mean there is an opening for one of us to be promoted to a mod?
Xhaka certain to join. Which would mean three players costing 30m+ would comprise of our midfield. I have never believed Wenger operates on a 'budget'. He actually spends closer to what the likes of City and Chelsea spend, compared to what the likes of Spurs, Everton Newcastle ect spend compared to us.
So many times his defenders make the argument, that Arsenal just arnt that good, and its by the grace of his management that we are able to finish in the top 4. But how much longer can we keep stockpiling high quality players before EVERYONE says 'hang on, Arsenal should be doing much better'. Sure we have some rubbish overrated players, but we also have some players the rest of the worlds top clubs would bend over backwards for.
Ive always we felt we finish 4th in spite of Wenger, and not because of him. We finish 4th, because the quality of playing personnel means we shouldnt fall any further. However, we dont compete for titles, because of Wenger.
Wilson wrote:Xhaka certain to join. Which would mean three players costing 30m+ would comprise of our midfield. I have never believed Wenger operates on a 'budget'. He actually spends closer to what the likes of City and Chelsea spend, compared to what the likes of Spurs, Everton Newcastle ect spend compared to us.
So many times his defenders make the argument, that Arsenal just arnt that good, and its by the grace of his management that we are able to finish in the top 4. But how much longer can we keep stockpiling high quality players before EVERYONE says 'hang on, Arsenal should be doing much better'. Sure we have some rubbish overrated players, but we also have some players the rest of the worlds top clubs would bend over backwards for.
Ive always we felt we finish 4th in spite of Wenger, and not because of him. We finish 4th, because the quality of playing personnel means we shouldnt fall any further. However, we dont compete for titles, because of Wenger.
And instead of getting rid of players like Giroud & Walcott, Wenger spends huge money, when he does splash out, on a plethora of midfielders in the vain hope that their ingenuity & creativity will pull the others up. With us it has the opposite effect, it drags players like Ozil down. That moron Adrian Durham, who hates Ozil, was saying after the Man City game that we've learnt that Arsenal are a better side without Ozil. That's crap, Ozil should not be held to account for the failings of our dreadful "strike force." Ask yourself how good David Silva would be behind/alongside Walcott, Giroud & Ramsey as opposed to de Brunye, Toure & Aguero??
So it's yet another quality midfielder with Giroud, after that fine hat trick, to retain that lone strikers berth. Who knows Xhaka might even be a replacement for Ozil??
He is Gooner through and through and at least he had the balls to put his head above the parapet and stand his ground both physically and verbally.
In my humble opinion he comes across as a Perry and Kevin type a few years down the line whose discovered strong Belgium ales, skunkweed and Quaalude's in the same week !
That tattoo on the neck reminds me of the melt that had one on his cheek and used to try and start fights with family away fans !
I do concede that it isn't easy to do it though and he has stood up for himself , and for that I can only applaud !
PS Armchair if that comment was meant for me please feel free to drown yourself in a vat of your own excrement !
The Xhaka signing has led to the rumour mill going in to overdrive about other potential new signings. It wont surprise me at all to see no other signings made in the summer. Also, does anyone believe that Wenger will upset that arrogant donkey up front, by bringing in a top class striker.
"Jose Mourinho's seemingly imminent arrival at Manchester United cements the Premier League's status as the home of the superstar managers.
United, Chelsea and Manchester City all look likely to start next season under new management in the shape of Mourinho, Antonio Conte at Stamford Bridge and Pep Guardiola at The Etihad.
Jurgen Klopp is a relatively new arrival at Liverpool after joining in October as the cream of the coaching crop - as well as Arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettino in situ at Arsenal and Tottenham respectively - prepare to battle it out next season."
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Wenger now well and truly pushed aside from the top table of managers in the league heading into his final season at the club.
Robin_L wrote:From a BBC article today, quite funny I thought:-
"Jose Mourinho's seemingly imminent arrival at Manchester United cements the Premier League's status as the home of the superstar managers.
United, Chelsea and Manchester City all look likely to start next season under new management in the shape of Mourinho, Antonio Conte at Stamford Bridge and Pep Guardiola at The Etihad.
Jurgen Klopp is a relatively new arrival at Liverpool after joining in October as the cream of the coaching crop - as well as Arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettino in situ at Arsenal and Tottenham respectively - prepare to battle it out next season."
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Wenger now well and truly pushed aside from the top table of managers in the league heading into his final season at the club.
Agreed. I can see Wenger being crowded out next season. All the other clubs would look at their manager as an asset. Whilst are the only top club with a manager the fans do not want, and whose ability to succeed is under genuine question.
The irony is, no pundit actually believes Wenger will compete in this field, yet at the same time they scoff at the idea of getting rid of him.
Robin_L wrote:From a BBC article today, quite funny I thought:-
"Jose Mourinho's seemingly imminent arrival at Manchester United cements the Premier League's status as the home of the superstar managers.
United, Chelsea and Manchester City all look likely to start next season under new management in the shape of Mourinho, Antonio Conte at Stamford Bridge and Pep Guardiola at The Etihad.
Jurgen Klopp is a relatively new arrival at Liverpool after joining in October as the cream of the coaching crop - as well as Arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettino in situ at Arsenal and Tottenham respectively - prepare to battle it out next season."
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Wenger now well and truly pushed aside from the top table of managers in the league heading into his final season at the club.
Agreed. I can see Wenger being crowded out next season. All the other clubs would look at their manager as an asset. Whilst are the only top club with a manager the fans do not want, and whose ability to succeed is under genuine question.
The irony is, no pundit actually believes Wenger will compete in this field, yet at the same time they scoff at the idea of getting rid of him.
Yeah like Jamie Carragher. He said recently that Arsenal will be one of the places where there will not be a buzz on the opening day of the new season. Then went on to say that Wenger should be allowed to see out the last year of his contract as its the right thing to do ... even though he knows Wenger is the reason there wont be a buzz around the place at Arsenal at the start of the new season.
Its fucking maddening with these people. Arsenal fans just have to hand over their money but accept that yet again, the excitement will be happening elsewhere.
Robin_L wrote:From a BBC article today, quite funny I thought:-
"Jose Mourinho's seemingly imminent arrival at Manchester United cements the Premier League's status as the home of the superstar managers.
United, Chelsea and Manchester City all look likely to start next season under new management in the shape of Mourinho, Antonio Conte at Stamford Bridge and Pep Guardiola at The Etihad.
Jurgen Klopp is a relatively new arrival at Liverpool after joining in October as the cream of the coaching crop - as well as Arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettino in situ at Arsenal and Tottenham respectively - prepare to battle it out next season."
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Wenger now well and truly pushed aside from the top table of managers in the league heading into his final season at the club.
Agreed. I can see Wenger being crowded out next season. All the other clubs would look at their manager as an asset. Whilst are the only top club with a manager the fans do not want, and whose ability to succeed is under genuine question.
The irony is, no pundit actually believes Wenger will compete in this field, yet at the same time they scoff at the idea of getting rid of him.
Yeah like Jamie Carragher. He said recently that Arsenal will be one of the places where there will not be a buzz on the opening day of the new season. Then went on to say that Wenger should be allowed to see out the last year of his contract as its the right thing to do ... even though he knows Wenger is the reason there wont be a buzz around the place at Arsenal at the start of the new season.
Its fucking maddening with these people. Arsenal fans just have to hand over their money but accept that yet again, the excitement will be happening elsewhere.
It is the right thing to do apparently
That sort of shit from outsiders drives me mental. I posted on here before that my barber is a Mouser and he can't believe we are "moaning" about Wenger. But in the next breath he's on about how we can't win the PL.
Then you have fucking idiots like Cccccccarragher and Dopey Jamie Redkrapp shiting on about Wenger being the problem, but that we should not get rid of the problem! And then portraying us as ungrateful bastards. At what other club would the fans have shown so much patience with their manager before being forced to the brink and finally wanting him gone - and then doing so politely and with dignity??!!! And we are STILL portrayed as ungrateful bastards!! The media are all cúnts.
Robin_L wrote:From a BBC article today, quite funny I thought:-
"Jose Mourinho's seemingly imminent arrival at Manchester United cements the Premier League's status as the home of the superstar managers.
United, Chelsea and Manchester City all look likely to start next season under new management in the shape of Mourinho, Antonio Conte at Stamford Bridge and Pep Guardiola at The Etihad.
Jurgen Klopp is a relatively new arrival at Liverpool after joining in October as the cream of the coaching crop - as well as Arsene Wenger and Mauricio Pochettino in situ at Arsenal and Tottenham respectively - prepare to battle it out next season."
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Wenger now well and truly pushed aside from the top table of managers in the league heading into his final season at the club.
Agreed. I can see Wenger being crowded out next season. All the other clubs would look at their manager as an asset. Whilst are the only top club with a manager the fans do not want, and whose ability to succeed is under genuine question.
The irony is, no pundit actually believes Wenger will compete in this field, yet at the same time they scoff at the idea of getting rid of him.
whether you like it or not the majority of "fans" at the Emirates have clearly shown they are behind Wenger as manager with the singing of TO1AW at the Norwich City game and then Wenger being given a huge standing ovation on his lap of honour after the Villa game.
with support like that the media will back off a bit. the fans at the Emirates are the problem I am afraid.