As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
100% agree, wenger character will just dig in even more, his ego thinks he can turn it around....the Club won't tell him to go ...and he will NEVER walk away
Look this is exactly the apathy he and the board rely on. He will go if he knows he is being hounded. NO one in humanity can go to work knowing you are hated. You can stay away and avoid it but no manager can its a public job and a PLC. No MP no corporate big wig in stink these days manages to survive in an open society.
If the away fans sang Wenger out though a match every fortnight he would go, no doubt. However too many take the "whatever " approch so we get him forever.
it will take protests inside the Emirates to get rid of him, but how honestly can this be achieved??
I was one of only a handful of people willing to take part in the "don't enter before 13 minutes" protest last week.
It was soul destroying. You are dealing with cultists, zombies, deniers, and apathetic morons.
The vast majority are just not engaged in the club like the people on this forum and those that are have this naïve view that Wenger will walk at the end of the season. When he doesn't then they will just turn up in blind hope once again in August. Like I said earlier, it is not 2 years, it is at least 4 more years of Wenger because he has clearly stated that's how long he wants to manage for.
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
Dein and Wenger are best friends and still meet up weekly, so to think that Dein is going to be brought back and look to sack Wenger at any point is frankly a laughable suggestion.
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
100% agree, wenger character will just dig in even more, his ego thinks he can turn it around....the Club won't tell him to go ...and he will NEVER walk away
Look this is exactly the apathy he and the board rely on. He will go if he knows he is being hounded. NO one in humanity can go to work knowing you are hated. You can stay away and avoid it but no manager can its a public job and a PLC. No MP no corporate big wig in stink these days manages to survive in an open society.
If the away fans sang Wenger out though a match every fortnight he would go, no doubt. However too many take the "whatever " approch so we get him forever.
Sorry, end of apathy. Fight for our club guys.
Wenger will disregard criticism , yes he will go to work hated.....not apathy....REALITY
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
The club cannot allow this to continue..they just can't. Gazidis has been told the protests are not going to stop and if we honour that commitment something has to give. We need to press home the advantage the team has handed us last night.
I was so delighted to know the pressure was put firmly back on the *word censored*/s as a result of last nights result.
Most definitely - Wenger, Wiggy, The Board AND the snowflake pussified players must have thought the pressure was off - after the win over the murdering scumwhammers - Now it is Back ON - We (everyone who is not an AKB) whether at protest or via the various Social Media: twatter/Facebook/Forums/Radio where ever - Need to once more RAMP UP the pressure - All comments of criticism to all and any of the players, the club etc especially on Twatter....
They (wenger/wiggy & club) need to fully realise we are going nowhere and the more we can make the *word censored* 'squirm' the better.
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
The club cannot allow this to continue..they just can't. Gazidis has been told the protests are not going to stop and if we honour that commitment something has to give. We need to press home the advantage the team has handed us last night.
I was so delighted to know the pressure was put firmly back on the *word censored*/s as a result of last nights result.
Most definitely - Wenger, Wiggy, The Board AND the snowflake pussified players must have thought the pressure was off - after the win over the murdering scumwhammers - Now it is Back ON - We (everyone who is not an AKB) whether at protest or via the various Social Media: twatter/Facebook/Forums/Radio where ever - Need to once more RAMP UP the pressure - All comments of criticism to all and any of the players, the club etc especially on Twatter....
They (wenger/wiggy & club) need to fully realise we are going nowhere and the more we can make the *word censored* 'squirm' the better.
#WENGEROUT
Best thing was the overwhelming reaction by the away fans.....under no doubt now as to how they feel ....
HARLOW GOONER wrote:
Our problem is Kroenke and to an extend Gazidis. They need to go, and Wenger needs to have targets or someone to be accountable to.
Dein comes back in c/o the Russian and as much as a lot of us won't want it Wenger get's a another contract ( he's probably already got one c/o Stan by now anyway) but he is now accountable to his new bosses.
How many more chances are you going to give Wenger? He doesn't need targets or accountability, he just needs to go.
On the subject of Dein, he may have worked well with Wenger in the past but that was a very long time ago. He is also 73, so bringing him back really is not the answer.
I'm not pro-Wenger, but nobody in the club is going to remove him. For me, I think he will still be there next season and we'll still be trying to hound him out next Easter.
Get rid of the current owner and maybe a new owner will sack Wenger or at least start by tell him top 4 isn't good enough.
I agree on your Dein comment.
100% agree, wenger character will just dig in even more, his ego thinks he can turn it around....the Club won't tell him to go ...and he will NEVER walk away
Look this is exactly the apathy he and the board rely on. He will go if he knows he is being hounded. NO one in humanity can go to work knowing you are hated. You can stay away and avoid it but no manager can its a public job and a PLC. No MP no corporate big wig in stink these days manages to survive in an open society.
If the away fans sang Wenger out though a match every fortnight he would go, no doubt. However too many take the "whatever " approch so we get him forever.
Sorry, end of apathy. Fight for our club guys.
I can be hated all you like for £8m + a year . All day long
Looking at the comments above, there are so many people in the "do nothing" camp.
If those people who want Wenger out all turned up to marches he would be gone really quickly.
Despite, some saying realistic, it really is apathy.
Completely agree Nick- if every working day you are harried he will go. The most resilient of people simply cant withstand it. If he was a shadowy chairman or non exec he can hide, but Wenger cant, he has to do meeja stuff, he has to be at the fore for every match. Hes a cunning wily fox we all know, but his pride will get the better of him, its the same with MPs same with others whos time has come, they eventually get harried out- the will to do it has to be there, which Im not sure is among many fans yet . Surely if 78% of the 60,000 turned up to march V Leicester he would be shamed into walking? .
Surely you can see that the protests have left a mark, woken the media up , put him significantly on the defensive, allowed the meeja to give him the hardest time since jaqui O, the WBA banner and the Stoke 3 two years ago?
Is anyone on here available to be in London on Saturday afternoon between 2.30 & 5.30.ish.... I've tried PMing, that hasn't worked so now I'm throwing it out there. We need 3 or 4 guys. PM me please.
Retro Gunner wrote:Just wondering.......do you think we'll be fined again for playing without a captain??
yeah I was wondering that too - I can't believe that this has now happened twice in a month!
Its a rolling fine thats ramped up from £200 to £400 this time then it reaches the dizzying heights of um £1000 I believe
Read somewhere it was what Kos earns in a few minutes, probably what AFC earn in a nanosecond
Managers have been sacked for less. Failing to have a nominated captain then not bothering to adapt and learn from a mistake is exactly the same in all manner of AFC matters that TOF should lead on. Criminally insane.
To be honest chaps, I wasn't being serious. It was my overly cryptic dig at "Captain Theo".....as usual, he didn't show up. I may be mistaken, but I think Ramsey took the armband when he replaced Walcott, in which case, the usual no show applies to our substitute captain too.
Theoperator wrote:Completely agree Nick- if every working day you are harried he will go. The most resilient of people simply cant withstand it. If he was a shadowy chairman or non exec he can hide, but Wenger cant, he has to do meeja stuff, he has to be at the fore for every match. Hes a cunning wily fox we all know, but his pride will get the better of him, its the same with MPs same with others whos time has come, they eventually get harried out- the will to do it has to be there, which Im not sure is among many fans yet . Surely if 78% of the 60,000 turned up to march V Leicester he would be shamed into walking? .
Surely you can see that the protests have left a mark, woken the media up , put him significantly on the defensive, allowed the meeja to give him the hardest time since jaqui O, the WBA banner and the Stoke 3 two years ago?
it is just not going to happen.
the maximum for a march so far has been barely 1,000 and the one last week was cancelled due to no one turning up!
As I have said before there is no interest amongst the vast majority of the Emirates match day crowd in forcibly removing Wenger.
If there was then he would have gone years ago! The current people who go seem to be happy enough to watch substandard shit week in week out, and that is what they are going to continue to get. In fact it will gradually get worse and worse.
Look at Newcastle United for what Arsenal could well become - a club with a massive fanbase who last won a few FA Cups in the 1950s, but who still sell out their stadium week in week out. Fast forward on to 2050 and that could well be Arsenal FC...
its great to see momentum gathering once again and I can only see more pressure being heaped on him in the coming weeks,anybody else here think that Spurs could actually put the final nail in his coffin in a couple of weeks?? one thing i am disappointed with though is seeing the players abused,i know they've been gash but ffs wouldn't you get pissed off playing for a KRUNT week in week out knowing you will never win anything and that hes finished,must eat away at you in the end the same as it does us,it cant be nice being sent out every week like lambs to the slaughter with zero tactics,zero back up plan,zero defence,zero captain to grab hold of you?? lets keep the pressure highlighted on Wenger
I think the guys organising should try and arrange a boycott now for the Leicester home game on Wednesday April 26.
Its going to be a dead game as it is with around 45k attending, but if we can get word out and publicise it well through a few big media channels then we could see an attendance of maybe less than 30k.
. Surely if 78% of the 60,000 turned up to march V Leicester he would be shamed into walking? . 
To be honest chaps, I wasn't being serious. 