THE WENGER THREAD

[armchair]

Nobody in the football world can understand why he moved away from signing players like Vieira, Petit, Campbell to signing relative physical and mental pygmies particularly when he arrived at the club he had to go against the entire culture of the club and persuade some very big characters who were entrenched in their ways, the Tuesday club, pie and mash, lie ins and even Mars Bars on a match day not only to train differently but to change their entire lifestyle.................. does my fuckin head in is what it does

Nobody in world foodball can explain why Wenger stopped signing strong willed players?

How about hes a cowardly fucker who has slipped into a wonderful little comfort zone of finishing top 4 woth no-one to challenge his authourity. No big personalities to threaten his cushty lifestyle.

8million a year with no pressure to succeed and still dining of past glories.
Still. Fuckin still. People going on about what he did almost 20yrs ago!
"But look how he made them eat fish and pasta and drink lots of water and, and, and he made them get outta bed, isnt he winderful"

His training, diet, medical and coaching and scouting methods dont stack up too well now do they? Like now. In the actual present?

Cant honestly believe there are still Wengerites apologising for him after the ego driven, greedy, incompetent trip hes been on for a decade.

If Wenger had never came to us we'd still be the Arsenal with history, tradition and respect.
If Wenger had never come to us Wenger would be a fuckin nobody pribably managing in the J league or France.
We made him what he is. Not the other way around and the sooner he realised that and started showing some humility and respect the better.
Fuckin unreconstructed Wengerites do my head in.

[armchair]

[armchair]

Seemingly these days it's only his fan boys who still rate him.
Top players are rejecting him left and right. Amazing how they don't feel that rising at 9am, drinking water instead of beer and eating salad makes him a top manager.

Agents will swerve him because of how he will fuck about, dither and low-ball the offer.

Increasingly the media are waking up and realising that this genius, revolutionary, visionary who some claim changed British football is really just an over-rated has-been who is long past his best and is stinking the place out.

No more arguments or lies left for his supporters. No more money problems (Always a lie anyway)
Richer than City and Chelsea
FFP argument gone quiet.
Can't compete - Leicester can
No-one available (the most laughable ever)

Their list of excuses goes on and on but now all their left with is .............
"Look what he did. He made the players drink water" or "Can't sack him, he can leave when he wants, show him respect"

Yea ok then.

[Offside]

Here we go:

Look at the schedule we have, it is a very difficult schedule and [we must] focus on the players who are here because they are certainly the players who will start the season.

‘Let’s not forget that we play Liverpool and Leicester in the first two games so we have to be ready physically and fitness-wise.’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/16/arsene-we ... z4EZTqnnYQ

Looks like a "slow start" is in the offing.

[armchair]

Here we go:

Look at the schedule we have, it is a very difficult schedule and [we must] focus on the players who are here because they are certainly the players who will start the season.

‘Let’s not forget that we play Liverpool and Leicester in the first two games so we have to be ready physically and fitness-wise.’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/16/arsene-we ... z4EZTqnnYQ

Looks like a "slow start" is in the offing.

Wenger :- the great motivator.
Nothing like getting your excuses in early and letting your players know its ok to fail again cause we have a difficult start.

Tell em to drink water and eat fish Arsene. That worked for you before didnt it?

[augie]

Here we go:

Look at the schedule we have, it is a very difficult schedule and [we must] focus on the players who are here because they are certainly the players who will start the season.

‘Let’s not forget that we play Liverpool and Leicester in the first two games so we have to be ready physically and fitness-wise.’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/16/arsene-we ... z4EZTqnnYQ

Looks like a "slow start" is in the offing.

Wenger :- the great motivator.
Nothing like getting your excuses in early and letting your players know its ok to fail again cause we have a difficult start.

Tell em to drink water and eat fish Arsene. That worked for you before didnt it?

So arsehole, you know that we have a tough start and you know that you have 2 months to prepare for it and be ready for the first game, but instead of buying in the necessary quality and spending a few weeks bedding them in to the team and squad, you decide to f.uck off on yet another jolly up talking bullshit to ignorant French fools who haven't a clue about how outdated and clueless you really are It is shameful to listen to the manager of one of the biggest clubs in world football, make excuses before facing a club that hasn't won a league in almost 30 years and a club that has won one in their history and that is about to be gutted by losing 1 or 2 of their main players
I wish this crunt would fcuk off out of our club and I would rather have Joachim low scratching his balls on the sideline every week, than having to endure another week of this clueless w*nker - hell low can masterbate into bould's face during every game, if it helps get rid of wenker

[Sean]

It's a bit brave of Rodders to continue the contract countdown. That contract extension is hanging over our heads like a grand piano. I'm surprised they haven't slipped that news out during the Euros (whilst TOF was moonlighting, as usual); so there's not many good opportunities to bury that bombshell now unless we fluke a good start, which is now unlikely because the manager always blames tournaments for our poor starts. It seems like it'll be another final-day renewal, like 2014

It's sad to see Armchair getting into a feud with the mods. We're all Arsenal. Good posts from GoonerMuzz and WIlson.

Now the insanity continues with The Old Fraud set to play a weakened team for the first few games of the season.

WHERE'S THE STRIKER AND CENTRE-BACK SIGNINGS, YOU DELUDED OLD FOOL?!?

A ninth Groundhog Season awaits...

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

He cant even help himself. He has a tendency to self-sabotage because he doesnt want to change or accept new ways. The decision to move on Campbell yet keep Theo is abhorrent. Campbell puts in a shift, links up well with the likes of Ozil, Cazorla and Sanchez. Campbell is one of the most reliable players in the squad. Theo on the other hand represents years of malaise, disappointment and unfulfilled potential.

Its beyond impossible to support a manager who cant even help himself. There is no rational reason for getting rid of Campbell other than to protect Wenger's pets like Theo and Giroud. He has no desire to reinvent the sqaud or improve upon it. It all comes back to he signed Walcott and Giroud in the first place, and thus they couldnt possibly be anything other than brilliant, because in Wengers mind, he has foresight beyond everyone else, and we mere mortals cannot see the inner quality of Walcott and Giroud.

He doesnt think like a rational person. He sees what he wants to believe. And he believes in himself so much that he is convinced of his own brilliance. He finds it unfathomable that he could ever be wrong.

As I keep saying, he suffers from delusions of grandeur. They way he sees himself, and some of our players, bear no resemblance in actual reality. Wenger isnt a rational person. He is irrational, delusional, and when anyone makes comments that threaten to burst his imaginary bubble, he snaps hard. Such as when he went after Henry when Henry said he 'had never seen the fans so angry'. Hearing from someone like Henry, that the fans are unhappy, threatens the illusion Wenger has built for himself, as in Wenger's world, the fans are deliriously happy with him as manager.

Thats why any player, or anyone else at the club who starts to make noise or question Wengers ways, are swiftly moved on.

Well said Wilson as usual. History is full of similar examples of human behavior when you get too much power.

Yes all true as we know...But its all been said at least 100 times before, there is nothing new here....we know what he is

Just need Wenger, Kronke and Gazidis OUT

You're right of course but I still after all these years fail to understand how this can go on and on and on and...

[Redarmy]

Here we go:

Look at the schedule we have, it is a very difficult schedule and [we must] focus on the players who are here because they are certainly the players who will start the season.

‘Let’s not forget that we play Liverpool and Leicester in the first two games so we have to be ready physically and fitness-wise.’

Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2016/07/16/arsene-we ... z4EZTqnnYQ

Looks like a "slow start" is in the offing.

Wenger :- the great motivator.
Nothing like getting your excuses in early and letting your players know its ok to fail again cause we have a difficult start.

Tell em to drink water and eat fish Arsene. That worked for you before didnt it?

So arsehole, you know that we have a tough start and you know that you have 2 months to prepare for it and be ready for the first game, but instead of buying in the necessary quality and spending a few weeks bedding them in to the team and squad, you decide to f.uck off on yet another jolly up talking bullshit to ignorant French fools who haven't a clue about how outdated and clueless you really are It is shameful to listen to the manager of one of the biggest clubs in world football, make excuses before facing a club that hasn't won a league in almost 30 years and a club that has won one in their history and that is about to be gutted by losing 1 or 2 of their main players
I wish this crunt would fcuk off out of our club and I would rather have Joachim low scratching his balls on the sideline every week, than having to endure another week of this clueless w*nker - hell low can masterbate into bould's face during every game, if it helps get rid of wenker

Always going to use the Euros as an excuse for players being tired....and season not yet started.....

[Redarmy]

He cant even help himself. He has a tendency to self-sabotage because he doesnt want to change or accept new ways. The decision to move on Campbell yet keep Theo is abhorrent. Campbell puts in a shift, links up well with the likes of Ozil, Cazorla and Sanchez. Campbell is one of the most reliable players in the squad. Theo on the other hand represents years of malaise, disappointment and unfulfilled potential.

Its beyond impossible to support a manager who cant even help himself. There is no rational reason for getting rid of Campbell other than to protect Wenger's pets like Theo and Giroud. He has no desire to reinvent the sqaud or improve upon it. It all comes back to he signed Walcott and Giroud in the first place, and thus they couldnt possibly be anything other than brilliant, because in Wengers mind, he has foresight beyond everyone else, and we mere mortals cannot see the inner quality of Walcott and Giroud.

He doesnt think like a rational person. He sees what he wants to believe. And he believes in himself so much that he is convinced of his own brilliance. He finds it unfathomable that he could ever be wrong.

As I keep saying, he suffers from delusions of grandeur. They way he sees himself, and some of our players, bear no resemblance in actual reality. Wenger isnt a rational person. He is irrational, delusional, and when anyone makes comments that threaten to burst his imaginary bubble, he snaps hard. Such as when he went after Henry when Henry said he 'had never seen the fans so angry'. Hearing from someone like Henry, that the fans are unhappy, threatens the illusion Wenger has built for himself, as in Wenger's world, the fans are deliriously happy with him as manager.

Thats why any player, or anyone else at the club who starts to make noise or question Wengers ways, are swiftly moved on.

Well said Wilson as usual. History is full of similar examples of human behavior when you get too much power.

Yes all true as we know...But its all been said at least 100 times before, there is nothing new here....we know what he is

Just need Wenger, Kronke and Gazidis OUT

You're right of course but I still after all these years fail to understand how this can go on and on and on and...

Tell me about it, honestly makes my blood boil when i think about whats going on with Wenger in charge

[OneBardGooner]

Anyone (including myself) who thought for a mere second that wenger might change his approach and methods regarding the transfer window was/is greatly mis-taken the cuntt only knows one way - His way - which is out-dated, non-functional, in-flexible and incapable of achieving the best and so success in a very competitive arena - was wholly wrong.

I somehow foolishly hoped for the merest of moments that after the anti-wenger banners, the discontent at games and calls for him to go - that he might, he just might have seen a glimmer of truth and reason and put some changes in place, but no - his attempts to quell the dis-content and appease the fans needs with the purchase of Vardy failed miserably (that was his best effort) And so rather than re-double his efforts and even try to match other clubs in their purchase of players in preparation for what looks like being the hardest fought season in the prem for some years with all the new managers coming in - managers who are far more advanced and much more able in their knowledge, leadership and manager skills to run and lead a team to success, the very same managers who will out wit and defeat our team time and time again.

I know we have all said it before, but for heaven's sake just how long can this madness be allowed to continue, I feel like I have been in a Bad, Bad Dream for 10 years now and nothing, absolutely Nothing is being done to change what is happening as our club fails year after year and becomes more and more of a laughing stock. Wenger is an utter embarrassment.

[augie]

Anyone (including myself) who thought for a mere second that wenger might change his approach and methods regarding the transfer window was/is greatly mis-taken the cuntt only knows one way - His way - which is out-dated, non-functional, in-flexible and incapable of achieving the best and so success in a very competitive arena - was wholly wrong.

I somehow foolishly hoped for the merest of moments that after the anti-wenger banners, the discontent at games and calls for him to go - that he might, he just might have seen a glimmer of truth and reason and put some changes in place, but no - his attempts to quell the dis-content and appease the fans needs with the purchase of Vardy failed miserably (that was his best effort) And so rather than re-double his efforts and even try to match other clubs in their purchase of players in preparation for what looks like being the hardest fought season in the prem for some years with all the new managers coming in - managers who are far more advanced and much more able in their knowledge, leadership and manager skills to run and lead a team to success, the very same managers who will out wit and defeat our team time and time again.

I know we have all said it before, but for heaven's sake just how long can this madness be allowed to continue, I feel like I have been in a Bad, Bad Dream for 10 years now and nothing, absolutely Nothing is being done to change what is happening as our club fails year after year and becomes more and more of a laughing stock. Wenger is an utter embarrassment.

When you have w*nkers at the grove stand up and sign in support of the crunt, and when those fans have displayed an eagerness to fight for the c.unt, then why would he change ? It also has to be said that we also have a huge number of fools who wont publicly call for his sacking because either they don't feel that it is "the Arsenal way", or because they think that he should be allowed see out the remainder of his contract with dignity, and they too are a large part of the problem This c.unt wont go unless the fans force him out. This c.unt wont change his way EVER. People should stop believing in the mythical land where he recognises weaknesses and goes full out to correct them - he doesn't and he wont, and because he spent the last 6 weeks fcuking about in france, he can now correctly claim that there is fcuk all available players out there

[OneBardGooner]

" The Arsenal Way" is Long, Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong Gone.

Yes, I agree Augie - If those that are silent made their voices known - It would I believe be a whole different story - Also there are those who want very much to say something, to voice their opinions and say what they feel, but many of them having seen how the Banner Bearers have been ill-treated and abused are afraid to speak up/stand up, especially with the club sanctioning it by their silence and in-actions against the culprits. Yet another form of dictatorship and control through the use of silence and fear. It stinks to high heaven, which is why when wenger eventually fucks off - the rifts that have been opened between the pro and anti kroenke/wenger people will not easily be healed if ever.

Wenger and the board is guilty by association and by the very fact they have not only said nor done nothing; not even making a statement against any form of intimidation or violence against those fans who wish to voice an opinion, also by the fact that they sent nazi-stewards to the $hitty away game with the sole purpose of Stopping Arsenal Fans voicing or showing any form of discontent against Wenger and the way the club is been run.

The man disgusts me and the sooner he is 'Gone' the better. I shall never forgive the cuntt.

[Bradywasking]

Arsenal Supporters Club were all over Twitter last night about loyalty to the club etc..many of the replies were on the same lines..I asked if after 40plus years support if that I have no faith in AW does it disqualify me as a fan...They replied "absolutely, you are either an Arsenal fan or you are not..you know what is coming" I have gone back to them for clarification of that answer. I am more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt as in I misread it or they mis-wrote it.
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In fairness Arsenal Supporters Club have accepted they read my Tweet incorrectly, they read disqualify as qualify. So they accept loyalty to the manager is not a condition of support of the club..

[armchair]

For years Wenger peddled the myth that top players only go to a club who've qualified for the CL. His apologists gleefully repeated his lies.

With Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan, Bailly and Batshuayi all moving to PL clubs who dont have CL football next season thats yet another lie can be put to bed.

Rather I reckon its the manager and his perceived ambition and that of the club that attracts top players. Wenger just is not that draw. Players and their agents have come to realise that Wenger is a fraud with no ambitions.
How Wenger can hold his head up after being so embarrassingly rejected by Jamie Vardy is beyond me.
I can guarantee if Mourinho, Pep or even Klopp had been Arsenal manager and we bid for him, Vardy would be an Arsenal player today.

Wenger really is an embarrassment and holding us back.