Number 5 wrote:I'd be worried about giving a penalty away, how about you?Step wrote:Sorry. Don't blame Diaby.
How confident would you be handling a crossed ball
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littlefire
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littlefire wrote:Say what you like about him but Arsene Wenger leads from the front.
Imagine: on his own, in very middle of the Theatre of Filthy Mancscum standing defiant with his arms out. That is one of the most proper Arsenal things ever. It's totemic and made me proud.
Don't know about that making me feel proud but I agree that was quality. If Mourinho done that our press would be starting a 7 day orgasm about it.
I just keep replaying the Diaby goal over and over in my head. Seriously disappointed with the game today. I have a renewed hate for those manc *word censored*, I hope the worst for them. 
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Wengerballs
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We deserved a draw at least and its painful to lose in this fashion but honestly, is anyone really surprised we lost with Fabregas, Nasri, and Walcott all missing and having to make do with rubbish like Diaby and Eboue as replacements and only 19 and 20 year olds to come off the bench? Is anyone really that surprised at this result?
How much longer do the fans have to endure seeing Eboue used in midfield in big games like this? It's a joke.
This loss just emphasises yet again that when it comes to the crunch we are lacking something. It exposes again how thin we are on real quality and experience in midfield. Even our bench are mostly under-21's.
At any given time of the season we usually have anywhere between one to three of our key players missing. 5 games into the season and already we have 2 key midfielders missing in Fabregas and Nasri and f*ck all to fill the gaps. We could beat anyone in Europe if we never, ever had injuries but we seem to be even more injury prone than most other teams. In this day and age only big squads with genuine depth are gonna go the long haul. Wenger has the cash to address this but once again he doesn't seem to be bothered, preferring to continue with clowns like Eboue and Diaby and keep talking about the future, the potential, how good well be in 6 months blah blah blah. Bollox.
He's got 48 hours to fix it. If not, its going to be yet another trophyless season of what could have been with just a couple of quality players.
How much longer do the fans have to endure seeing Eboue used in midfield in big games like this? It's a joke.
This loss just emphasises yet again that when it comes to the crunch we are lacking something. It exposes again how thin we are on real quality and experience in midfield. Even our bench are mostly under-21's.
At any given time of the season we usually have anywhere between one to three of our key players missing. 5 games into the season and already we have 2 key midfielders missing in Fabregas and Nasri and f*ck all to fill the gaps. We could beat anyone in Europe if we never, ever had injuries but we seem to be even more injury prone than most other teams. In this day and age only big squads with genuine depth are gonna go the long haul. Wenger has the cash to address this but once again he doesn't seem to be bothered, preferring to continue with clowns like Eboue and Diaby and keep talking about the future, the potential, how good well be in 6 months blah blah blah. Bollox.
He's got 48 hours to fix it. If not, its going to be yet another trophyless season of what could have been with just a couple of quality players.
It's interesting that people are now slagging off Eboue again - don't get me wrong, he is one of, if not the biggest diver in the PL now but he's actually played quite well so far this season (I can't even believe I'm defending him a bit)! But now he seems to be the villain of the piece. A player can only play to his ability, if he's lacking, then it's the managers fault for picking him continuously. Half the guys on here creamed their pants after two wins against piss poor opposition (on the day) and some even started going on about how we don't need to sign anyone! 
Six games in was always going to be the benchmark for the season and it remains that way, if we win our next three, we'll be looking good, if we lose one draw one, it will be looking pretty dodgy. The fact still remains that we need three signings because if TV or Gallas are out for any length of time, we are fooked, big time.
Oh, and Almunia is STILL a fckin clown.
Six games in was always going to be the benchmark for the season and it remains that way, if we win our next three, we'll be looking good, if we lose one draw one, it will be looking pretty dodgy. The fact still remains that we need three signings because if TV or Gallas are out for any length of time, we are fooked, big time.Oh, and Almunia is STILL a fckin clown.
augie wrote:Glitch33 wrote:I don't think we have too much to worry about. We outplayed them most of the game and made them look beeter when we inevitably had to chase the game.
The Mancs did not play well and were gifted a couple of goals. Foster made a great save to deny RVP.
We really missed Cesc today - the Cesc that was at his best and running games at the start of the season.
We have too many inconsistent players who give the ball away or make the wrong decisons.
I worry about Arshavin. He wants to play in the middle and in the absence of Cesc he should be given the chance. It doesn't look like he has gelled with his team mates.
I also worry about RvP. He hasn't done much this season.
Mate you say that there is nothing much to worry about but you then say that we have too many inconsistant players, rvp hasnt done much this season, arshavin hasnt gelled and isnt happy and that we are too reliant on cesc.....doesnt sound too confident to me
OK slight contradiction going on here.
Deep down I must be very, very worried and thanks for pointing it out. I realise that the season is as good as over and I can see all the reasons why with new clarity.
Why can't RvP score?
Will Asrhavin be offski soon?
Why is our keeper is so sh1t?
Why do we have so many, very average midfielders?
Are we really a team of cheats and divers?
Can the squad cope with any more injuries?
Will I ever see Rosicky play again?
Will we ever recover from yesterdays defeat?
Were they that much better than us or were we robbed?
Why did I renew my season ticket?
Will the Spuds finish above us?
How will I cope with another potless season?
Has AW lost the plot (again)?
Is the club run being run by a bunch of incompetent tightwads?
Am I worrying too much?
No wonder I can't sleep at night. Still a problem shared.....
EC3 wrote:Just got back from manchester.
See there are the usual moaners having a dig.
In my opinion yesterday's was one of the best performances i have seen from Arsenal at OT.
A lot of positives to take, but of course the usual doom and gloom merchants will always moan whatever the circumstances.
If you read the bloody posts properly then you will see that the anger and frustration on here is coming from deep dispointment of blowing a game when we were the better team for 60 mins of it. The comments have praised the majority of the players and how well they have played but most of you rose tinters are unable to see anything except the negative remarks - talk about selective viewing
So anyway I take it that you were happy with almunia's performance yesterday then ? And maybe it wasnt a balls up by almunia and diaby for the 2nd goal but instead was an outstanding free kick by giggs ? Of course if there were parts of the team that were poor you couldnt say it anyway could you cos that would be letting the side down wouldnt it ? It is people like you that embarrass most supporters
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We are having a dig because once again in a big game in the last 2 years we have had a 1-0 lead and blown it.EC3 wrote:Just got back from manchester.
See there are the usual moaners having a dig.
In my opinion yesterday's was one of the best performances i have seen from Arsenal at OT.
A lot of positives to take, but of course the usual doom and gloom merchants will always moan whatever the circumstances.
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Bergkamp-Genius
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Even without Cesc yesterday we on the whole outplayed United on their own pitch and if we were a normal team we could have and should have came away with at least a point.
The fact that we came away with nothing from that game and again conspired to lose a game that there looked little chance of us losing has reinforced my belief that even more so than having a lack of quality depth in our squad for a successful campaign, we have too many players that just lack the winning mentality, we seem to have a real problem following through in big games when we are on top, we always seem to find a way to lose, yesterdays game reminded me among many others of the 2008 game at OT where we outplayed them went 1 up and again found a way to lose 2-1 and the even more sickening the CL tie at Liverpool, whatever it takes to lose these games we seem to find a way.
I used to think it was experience or lack of it that caused this but plenty of yesterdays team have been in this position many times before and yet they seem to have learned nothing about how to deal with it. So now i think it's more a case of the kind of players Wenger likes, on the whole they just don't have that winning mentality, which is not surprising considering how much they are mollicoddled by Wenger, even after poor performances and results they are pampered and excuses made for them, it's not an environment that creates a winning mentality. If thats not bad enough our managers tactical naiveity appears to have filtered through to the players, you would think even though the manager doesn't appear to know how to close these games out the players would have by now learned how to get the job done.
On a side note, having watched United a few times so far this year i will have to revise my pre season prediction that they would come in a close second to Chelski in the prem this season to predicting they will be a distant second to Chelski and if anyone of the chasers gets up a head of steam maybe even third.
They miss Ronaldos bit extra a lot and they haven't any where near adequately replaced him. I was surprised to see both Robben and Sneijder leave Madrid with out United picking either of them up, they badly need at least one player of their level of creative ability and i can't believe Fergie doesn't see that, so i can only imagine he has someone major in the pipeline for the next few days, if he doesn't, all the better for the chasing pack because they are definitely with what they have now a far easier proposition than last year.
The fact that we came away with nothing from that game and again conspired to lose a game that there looked little chance of us losing has reinforced my belief that even more so than having a lack of quality depth in our squad for a successful campaign, we have too many players that just lack the winning mentality, we seem to have a real problem following through in big games when we are on top, we always seem to find a way to lose, yesterdays game reminded me among many others of the 2008 game at OT where we outplayed them went 1 up and again found a way to lose 2-1 and the even more sickening the CL tie at Liverpool, whatever it takes to lose these games we seem to find a way.
I used to think it was experience or lack of it that caused this but plenty of yesterdays team have been in this position many times before and yet they seem to have learned nothing about how to deal with it. So now i think it's more a case of the kind of players Wenger likes, on the whole they just don't have that winning mentality, which is not surprising considering how much they are mollicoddled by Wenger, even after poor performances and results they are pampered and excuses made for them, it's not an environment that creates a winning mentality. If thats not bad enough our managers tactical naiveity appears to have filtered through to the players, you would think even though the manager doesn't appear to know how to close these games out the players would have by now learned how to get the job done.
On a side note, having watched United a few times so far this year i will have to revise my pre season prediction that they would come in a close second to Chelski in the prem this season to predicting they will be a distant second to Chelski and if anyone of the chasers gets up a head of steam maybe even third.
They miss Ronaldos bit extra a lot and they haven't any where near adequately replaced him. I was surprised to see both Robben and Sneijder leave Madrid with out United picking either of them up, they badly need at least one player of their level of creative ability and i can't believe Fergie doesn't see that, so i can only imagine he has someone major in the pipeline for the next few days, if he doesn't, all the better for the chasing pack because they are definitely with what they have now a far easier proposition than last year.
Augie, let me spell this out in the clearest possible way.
I find your repeative, repeative negative posts a complete bore and your totally predictable.
Your non stop moaning sums up many fans. You string a few paragraphs together but ultimately you are always saying the same thing.
Now, as for me being an embarrassment to supporters, lets get a few straight.
I would say not one person who knows me would say that.
If you have a problem, then as you go to Arsenal then it shouldn't be a problem for me and you to meet.
I find your repeative, repeative negative posts a complete bore and your totally predictable.
Your non stop moaning sums up many fans. You string a few paragraphs together but ultimately you are always saying the same thing.
Now, as for me being an embarrassment to supporters, lets get a few straight.
I would say not one person who knows me would say that.
If you have a problem, then as you go to Arsenal then it shouldn't be a problem for me and you to meet.
