The Gooner Forum

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him out

my response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him out

my response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

Heres the summary of what I want:

1.) To encourage the club to visibly invest in quality players, (who reflect the high ticket prices paid?), to allow Arsenal to compete for the major club competition trophies domestically and in Europe.

2.) To seek clarity over the club's youth policy, with particular regard to the policy of rewarding young players with long term contracts that have increased the club's annual wage bill yet not resulted in trophies.

3.) To understand the PLC's longer term vision and strategy. As supporters we have clear goals and ambitions, measured by winning trophies. As an organisation involved in various business sectors, but whose principle activity is a football club, we believe that this should also be the clear and measured objective of the PLC.

Again I like these points as the mission statement just think the first one needs to be edited as we can't be seen to be telling the manager how to do his job.

Needs to be more focused on reinvestment of the very high and still increasing ticket prices more than just asking for players to be bought.

Also we should add something to the second one as its not just about youth players its about all the players getting new bigger contracts on little or no merit.

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him outmy response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

You obviously read it very carefully then because that was specifically excluded as an aim of this group at the weekend. If the long words are too difficult for you get a grown up to help. The last comment you make proves its way past your bedtime....honestly

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him out

my response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

To answer that, Twitcher took them from bottom of the table to fourth (don't know whether hes mentioned that himself) and quarter finals of the champions league. Mancini has been at city for a year but I don't think hes buying the right players personally.

If red nose hadn't won anything for 6 years he would have either most likely walked or been sacked under intense pressure from manc fans who couldn't even stand a season or two without winning.

Are you planning a takeover or something?

Get yourself 600m and the club might give you a response and a seat on the board otherwise prepare to be laughed at.

What YOU want, dear oh dear.

Gunnersaurus wrote:Are you planning a takeover or something?

Get yourself 600m and the club might give you a response and a seat on the board otherwise prepare to be laughed at.

What YOU want, dear oh dear.

What I want as the aims of the movement. I'm sure we'll get laughed at but I'm prepared for that.

Arsenal 1991 wrote:

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him out

my response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

To answer that, Twitcher took them from bottom of the table to fourth (don't know whether hes mentioned that himself) and quarter finals of the champions league. Mancini has been at city for a year but I don't think hes buying the right players personally.

If red nose hadn't won anything for 6 years he would have either most likely walked or been sacked under intense pressure from manc fans who couldn't even stand a season or two without winning.

I thought we were Arsenal fans anyway. Personally I don't give a shit about Twitchy or Mancini. For the record, I think the latter has done an ordinary job and plays too defensively to win the Premier League. He'll be gone within 12 months. Not saying I agree with that but think it's inevitable that it will happen.

Redknapp is no god either. Spurs were in a false position (enjoyable though it was) - he could only take them up from there, and yes he's been given fantastic backing. But the truth of the matter is he'll probably finish 5th and then will be under pressure.

But I'm still not sure why opinions about those two and their clubs are relevant to a group of people that just want to have a couple of fundamental issues at least listened to by the club

SteveO 35 wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him out

my response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

To answer that, Twitcher took them from bottom of the table to fourth (don't know whether hes mentioned that himself) and quarter finals of the champions league. Mancini has been at city for a year but I don't think hes buying the right players personally.

If red nose hadn't won anything for 6 years he would have either most likely walked or been sacked under intense pressure from manc fans who couldn't even stand a season or two without winning.

I thought we were Arsenal fans anyway. Personally I don't give a shit about Twitchy or Mancini. For the record, I think the latter has done an ordinary job and plays too defensively to win the Premier League. He'll be gone within 12 months. Not saying I agree with that but think it's inevitable that it will happen.

Redknapp is no god either. Spurs were in a false position (enjoyable though it was) - he could only take them up from there, and yes he's been given fantastic backing. But the truth of the matter is he'll probably finish 5th and then will be under pressure.

But I'm still not sure why opinions about those two and their clubs are relevant to a group of people that just want to have a couple of fundamental issues at least listened to by the club

Well yes exactly.

Henry Norris 1913 wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:We've 43 followers on twitter and 78 fans on facebook so far.

a revolution is on the horizon

When do you guys wanna start advertising it? The 'She Wore' facebook page is a good place to start, you'll get a fair bit of support from some guys on there

And you will get told to fuck off to Chelsea by the JCL mugs on there too...

SteveO 35 wrote:

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him outmy response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

You obviously read it very carefully then because that was specifically excluded as an aim of this group at the weekend. If the long words are too difficult for you get a grown up to help. The last comment you make proves its way past your bedtime....honestly

you guys are aiming waay to low
fergie being fired should 100% be a key aim
(btw the other firing you 'emboldened' - wengers - was obv discussed or it couldn't have been excluded)

oh and on bedtimes my 2 year old is still up...

highburyJD wrote:

SteveO 35 wrote:

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him outmy response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

You obviously read it very carefully then because that was specifically excluded as an aim of this group at the weekend. If the long words are too difficult for you get a grown up to help. The last comment you make proves its way past your bedtime....honestly

you guys are aiming waay to low
fergie being fired should 100% be a key aim
(btw the other firing you 'emboldened' - wengers - was obv discussed or it couldn't have been excluded)

oh and on bedtimes my 2 year old is still up...

They are having kids younger and younger these days. What a shame.

I don't know what your point is. (bold)

Good point by Bob on the .com forum:

Good post in my opinion, and deserving of respect. As with any broad church movement, there will be differences of opinion about some fundamental issues including whether AW should stay or go. But this doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a future in a protest movement. There is, I think, a significant consensus of opinion among a large body of our supporters on the following points:

1. Arsenal are not in a position to win major trophies, and are not likely to be in the foreseeable future

2. The manager's strategy of spending very little (relative to other top premiership teams) in the transfer market has left us short of quality and depth

3. The Board seem content with the status quo - they are not holding the manager to account for the lack of success. They also seem to be working on the assumption that supporters will be content to pay more for season tickets next season, despite (1) and (2) above.

This agenda seems to be a reasonable starting point for a new group to develop its thinking and radical change in the direction of the Club. Whether the existing manager is the right man to drive the changes we need is up for discussion (I would argue strongly that he is part of the problem, so can't be part of the solution).

highburyJD wrote:

SteveO 35 wrote:

highburyJD wrote:

Arsenal 1991 wrote:Please, please, please read a little of this thread before you comment on the movement.

thank you.

I read 30 odd pages
you want wenger to spend
some want him to coach defence better
some want him outmy response is about that

twicher spends
mancini coaches defence
if fergie doesn't win the league should he be fired?

You obviously read it very carefully then because that was specifically excluded as an aim of this group at the weekend. If the long words are too difficult for you get a grown up to help. The last comment you make proves its way past your bedtime....honestly

you guys are aiming waay to low
fergie being fired should 100% be a key aim
(btw the other firing you 'emboldened' - wengers - was obv discussed or it couldn't have been excluded)

oh and on bedtimes my 2 year old is still up...

Crumbs...I hope you know a responsible adult who can help him/her with their reading over the coming years

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