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flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

Shame there's not a synchronised caravan parking event.

arseofacrow wrote:

g88ner wrote:GOLD IN DRESSAGE!!!!!!

That's number 20! well done horses! nay!!!

nay? really mate??

yep

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

Racist.

olgitgooner wrote:

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

Shame there's not a synchronised caravan parking event.

Deffo racist.

olgitgooner wrote:

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

Shame there's not a synchronised caravan parking event.

OneBardGooner wrote:

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

Racist.

Ginger bastard

I so look forward to us meeting up flash - so yu can see with yer own mince pies I am NOT Ginger!...I may like shagging ginger (dark ginger/aunurn only not the so called strawberry blonde stuff) muff - but that doesn't mean I am ginger!...yer sill twonk...

ps the gypsies thing is racist...but I'll leave you (as a mod) to decide what to do about that.

OneBardGooner wrote: I so look forward to us meeting up flash - so yu can see with yer own mince pies I am NOT Ginger!...I may like shagging ginger (dark ginger/aunurn only not the so called strawberry blonde stuff) muff - but that doesn't mean I am ginger!...yer sill twonk...

ps the gypsies thing is racist...but I'll leave you (as a mod) to decide what to do about that.

Gypsies/travellers are not an individual race of people. They just have a different culture. Racism does not apply here.

Personally I don't care about the colour of peoples' skin, or religious belief, or anything else. Just as long as they make some effort to fit in with the laws and values of the country in which they live.

This is clearly not the case with the minority/majority of travellers. Sad. But true.

Ok then....culturalist Is that even a word? I might have invented a new one

Move the thread back to the Olympics guys, before it all goes horribly wrong.

I spent the last week in Bramhope with my mother in law (lovely lady) she lives about 3/4 mile from the Brownlee brothers. The village is massively pissed off the gold post box is going to Horsforth where their parents live. Still immensely proud of the boys.

Chippy wrote:Move the thread back to the Olympics guys, before it all goes horribly wrong.

I spent the last week in Bramhope with my mother in law (lovely lady) she lives about 3/4 mile from the Brownlee brothers. The village is massively pissed off the gold post box is going to Horsforth where their parents live. Still immensely proud of the boys.

Somebody needs to have a word.

Bramhope deserves a gold post box.

Chippy wrote:Move the thread back to the Olympics guys, before it all goes horribly wrong.

I spent the last week in Bramhope with my mother in law (lovely lady) she lives about 3/4 mile from the Brownlee brothers. The village is massively pissed off the gold post box is going to Horsforth where their parents live. Still immensely proud of the boys.

Laura Trott was born in my old hometown of Harlow so when she won gold they painted a box in Harlow she told them her actually hometown was Cheshunt and she was only born in Harlow so they painted one in Cheshunt too. Bet Royal Mail wish they hadnt bothered

flash gunner wrote:

RoscommonGooner wrote:Olympic medals at fightin' and ridin'

Gypsies?

When I text a mate yesterday he replied with something very similar.

olgitgooner wrote:

OneBardGooner wrote: I so look forward to us meeting up flash - so yu can see with yer own mince pies I am NOT Ginger!...I may like shagging ginger (dark ginger/aunurn only not the so called strawberry blonde stuff) muff - but that doesn't mean I am ginger!...yer sill twonk...

ps the gypsies thing is racist...but I'll leave you (as a mod) to decide what to do about that.

Gypsies/travellers are not an individual race of people. They just have a different culture. Racism does not apply here.

Personally I don't care about the colour of peoples' skin, or religious belief, or anything else. Just as long as they make some effort to fit in with the laws and values of the country in which they live.

This is clearly not the case with the minority/majority of travellers. Sad. But true.

I don't wish to take this thread 'off topic' but if people are going to make throwaway statements about something - whether they like it or not - has racial overtones - then surely it needs addressing.... I am not saying or accusing anyone of 'Intentionally being Racist'...but one remark can act as a spark and so there a fire begin...and it is not just what is said but how and why...and what is inferred from that...having briefly lived with Gypsies in Europe (Spain and Romania) when a teenager, I am only too aware of how the term is perceived by some to cover all peoples who live a 'Nomadic' life style, and how the term can unwittingly be used as a generic term and is often applied to those who are not Gypsies , there is no comparison between genuine Romani (Gypsies) and those who now referred to as travellers (among many other names).

So maybe have a little read olgit/flash then see what you think...

It has been scientifically proven that between a thousand and fifteen hundred years ago, several groups of people migrated from northern India, dispersing throughout Europe over the next several centuries. Though these people were part of several tribes (the largest of which are the Sinti and Roma), the settled peoples called them by a collective name, "Gypsies" -- which stems from the one time belief that they had come from Egypt.

Nomadic, dark-skinned, non-Christian, speaking a foreign language (Romani), not tied to the land - the Gypsies were very different from the settled peoples of Europe. Misunderstandings of Gypsy culture created suspicions and fears, which in turn led to rampant speculations, stereotypes, and biased stories. Unfortunately, too many of these stereotypes and stories are still readily believed today.

Throughout the following centuries, non-Gypsies (Gaje) continually tried to either assimilate the Gypsies or kill them. Attempts to assimilate the Gypsies involved stealing their children and placing them with other families; giving them cattle and feed, expecting them to become farmers; outlawing their customs, language, and clothing as well as forcing them to attend school and church.

Decrees, laws, and mandates often allowed the killing of Gypsies. For instance, in 1725 King Frederick William I of Prussia ordered all Gypsies over 18 years of age to be hanged. A practice of "Gypsy hunting" was quite common - a game hunt very similar to fox hunting. Even as late as 1835, there was a Gypsy hunt in Jutland (Denmark) that "brought in a bag of over 260 men, women and children."

Though the Gypsies had undergone centuries of such persecution, it remained relatively random and sporadic until the twentieth century when the negative stereotypes became intrinsically molded into a racial identity, and the Gypsies were systematically slaughtered.

The persecution of Gypsies began in the very beginning of the Third Reich - Gypsies were arrested and interned in concentration camps as well as sterilized under the July 1933 Law for the Prevention of Hereditarily Diseased Offspring. Yet, in the beginning, Gypsies were not specifically named as a group that threatened the Aryan, German people. This was because under Nazi racial ideology, Gypsies were Aryans.
Thus, the Nazis had a problem: how could they persecute a group enveloped in negative stereotypes but supposedly part of the Aryan, super race?

Nazi racial researchers found a "scientific" reason to persecute at least most of the Gypsies. They found their answer in Professor Hans F. K. Günther's book Rassenkunde Europas ("Anthropology of Europe") where he wrote:
The Gypsies have indeed retained some elements from their Nordic home, but they are descended from the lowest classes of the population in that region. In the course of their migrations, they have absorbed the blood of the surrounding peoples, and have thus become an Oriental, western-Asiatic racial mixture, with an addition of Indian, mid-Asiatic, and European strains. Their nomadic mode of living is a result of this mixture. The Gypsies will generally affect Europe as aliens.

Following this the Gypsies of Europe were registered, sterilized, ghettoized, and then deported to concentration and death camps by the Nazis. Approximately 250,000 to 500,000 Gypsies were murdered during the Holocaust - an event they call the Porajmos (the "Devouring").




Now then back to the olympics

Can Lightning strike twice!?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/18907716