The Summer 2014 TRANSFER THREAD

[gp543]

You have to laugh really.

All the latest talk about Goalies Navas & Ochoa and what do I see on Sky today? - 'Arsenal tracking Forest keeper'

I just thought it was hilarious.

I don't understand why we keep getting linked with 1st choice keepers.

We just need a backup for Szcz. 2nd most clean sheets in the league last season. Best distribution in the league last season.

A 33 year old top quality keeper is probably available from Madrid at a reasonable price......would you not buy him then ? For me every transfer we do should be an upgrade on what we already got and casillas would be an upgrade on chesney imo

I think Casillas has been found out this season to be honest.

Upgrade on szcz at what cost to szcz's development? If there was a major gulf in class between the two, I might agree. But there isn't anymore.

[augie]

You have to laugh really.

All the latest talk about Goalies Navas & Ochoa and what do I see on Sky today? - 'Arsenal tracking Forest keeper'

I just thought it was hilarious.

I don't understand why we keep getting linked with 1st choice keepers.

We just need a backup for Szcz. 2nd most clean sheets in the league last season. Best distribution in the league last season.

A 33 year old top quality keeper is probably available from Madrid at a reasonable price......would you not buy him then ? For me every transfer we do should be an upgrade on what we already got and casillas would be an upgrade on chesney imo

I think Casillas has been found out this season to be honest.

Upgrade on szcz at what cost to szcz's development? If there was a major gulf in class between the two, I might agree. But there isn't anymore.

Casillas with regular game time is STILL one of the worlds top keepers - two positions where players most need regular football for sharpness, are striker and keeper and casillas hasn't had much of that at Madrid last season. If he goes elsewhere to be number 1 keeper and still looks as shaky as he did in brazil, then I will concede that the game is up for him but until that time comes I think it is unfair to judge/write him off
Re your comment on chesney's development, let me say that I think that his development has been stunted because he hasn't had any real competition to make him raise his game. For me, if he is the best keeper then he plays but if he isn't then he had better raise his game to get his place back. The team must be the priority over any sense of loyalty to any individual player whether they come from the youth set up or not

[silus]

5Live were saying earlier that we will sign Sanchez, interest from Juve notwithstanding.

Apparently Sanchez's 1st choice is Arsenal, not interested in Liverpool.

So expect Juve to announce his signing immediately followed by Wenger saying he was "never interested".

I'm starting to get a bad feeling....

[Herd]

Wenger doesn't know the first thing about goalkeepers and we haven't had a "Super Quality" one since Seaman hung up his boots .
He also messes with them ,Flappy (and Zonal marking) very nearly cost us the Cup final ,to drop you No.1 Goalkeeper for a cup final was almost suicidal.
He messed with Mannone,Almunia and Flappy before too and it affected their performance.

He doesn't like paying coin for them either so we will end up with an older past his prime keeper who we will pay massive wages to which doesn't make sense considering we pay chesz 65 k a week ffs !
For me the Pole isn't good enough ,i would out him and get a quality replacement and a cheap standby no.2

[VAVAVOOM 14]

Wenger doesn't know the first thing about goalkeepers and we haven't had a "Super Quality" one since Seaman hung up his boots .

To be fair "super quailty" keepers are the rarest commodity in the game: there's generally less than 10 in the whole world at any time - I'm talking about your Cech's, Buffon's, Casillas', etc.

Just have a look around the game today; I'd say Neuer and Courtois are the only top echelon keepers to emerge over the past five years or so, the others have been building their careers for over a decade.

Besides, Jens Lehmann - though maybe not world class barring 2006 - was still a top, top keeper.

I myself like the look of Navas but the frustrating thing is Wenger's only going to bring someone who's content to sit on the bench - he won't buy a GK with the ability to usurp Szczesny.

[Herd]

You cannot win the league without a class goalkeeper ,Lehman was good but prone to madness which cost us from time to time and since then our goalkeeping situation has been an embarrassment.
Chez is a good keeper but a complete brainless twat which means he wont learn from past mistakes and progress as a footballer .

[topgoon]

Lehmann was a world class goalie just daft as a brush. We didn't go unbeaten in a season and concede one goal in the run up to a champions league final by accident.

Cech has had one of the world's best defences in front of him for best part of a decade,put him behind the scum's or Victims defence and he would soon lose all those clean sheets.

By the way for the poster that said second most clean sheets for Ches,it wasn't. He was joint first with Cech who doesn't get exposed by Aw's tactics.

I would go for one of two keepers Ochoa,the Mexican one and David Marshall.

Both have excellent reflex saves but both seemed comfortable on crosses.

If we get Debuchy, it cannot he at the expense of losing Campbell to a midtable bunch of nothings like The barcodes. Cash up front for Debuchy and nothing else. Pretty sure the fat sports warehouse owner would appreciate that.

If we get Sanchez, good but why can't we throw money at someone for a defender as well as telling Vermalen that The Bfg will be unavailable for the season start so you are first choice,try and regain your 1st season form,when Kos dodgy and you were boss. Failing that stick some cash under Kenwright's nose for their young defender Stones . They are so desperate for the money to get Lukaku and need to fend off Shitty for Barkley that they would do it.

Sanchez has Not happened yet but if it did, a note of caution.

At the end of the season we were all pretty unanimous that we needed a natural striker, a top defensive cm,a decent back up goalie,a good 3rd choice defender and now apparently a right back.

In all the excitement over Sanchez,anyone care to tell me where the f**k Sanchez fits that list,unless he's a goalie waiting to come out of the closet,we are being bloody hoodwinked with a vanity f**king signing that seals 4th and if we are really lucky maybe a domestic cup.

I was and am happy with the FA cup but feel a bit f**ked off that we'll be waiting 3yrs minimum to add title number 14.

Anyway if and that's a big If, Sanchez does come then someone has to do a chant for him that talks about his love for those 80s short shorts.

[northbank123]

You have to laugh really.

All the latest talk about Goalies Navas & Ochoa and what do I see on Sky today? - 'Arsenal tracking Forest keeper'

I just thought it was hilarious.

I don't understand why we keep getting linked with 1st choice keepers.

We just need a backup for Szcz. 2nd most clean sheets in the league last season. Best distribution in the league last season.

I presume "best distribution" is some sort of statistic? His distribution is pretty worrying at times, too often he puts player under pressure with wild throws because he doesn't use his brain.

Either way you are right about the rumours, if Wenger stuck with Szczesny after a shit 18 months last summer he's not going to go out and sign somebody to bump him down to the bench after he's actually had a good season. Just hope we don't have fucking Martinez on the bench next season, you can get a perfectly capable back-up keeper for 5m or less and it's well worth the investment.

[brucegrove]

In all the excitement over Sanchez,anyone care to tell me where the f**k Sanchez fits unless he's a goalie waiting to come out of the closet,we are being bloody hoodwinked with a vanity f**king signing that seals 4th and if we are really lucky maybe a domestic cup.

I posted a similar question a few days ago. I regard him as a right-sided winger but presumably for that price he'd have to be played as a forward. Hard to imagine us paying another £30m for an out-and-out forward altho there's always the car boot Remy option. Santi seems to be a fans favourite but he looks very lightweight to me out on the left wing and Poldi just goes missing a lot so maybe Sanchez could be played there with Wally on the opposite side

[augie]

Lehmann was a world class goalie just daft as a brush. We didn't go unbeaten in a season and concede one goal in the run up to a champions league final by accident.

Cech has had one of the world's best defences in front of him for best part of a decade,put him behind the scum's or Victims defence and he would soon lose all those clean sheets.

By the way for the poster that said second most clean sheets for Ches,it wasn't. He was joint first with Cech who doesn't get exposed by Aw's tactics.

I would go for one of two keepers Ochoa,the Mexican one and David Marshall.

Both have excellent reflex saves but both seemed comfortable on crosses.

If we get Debuchy, it cannot he at the expense of losing Campbell to a midtable bunch of nothings like The barcodes. Cash up front for Debuchy and nothing else. Pretty sure the fat sports warehouse owner would appreciate that.

If we get Sanchez, good but why can't we throw money at someone for a defender as well as telling Vermalen that The Bfg will be unavailable for the season start so you are first choice,try and regain your 1st season form,when Kos dodgy and you were boss. Failing that stick some cash under Kenwright's nose for their young defender Stones . They are so desperate for the money to get Lukaku and need to fend off Shitty for Barkley that they would do it.

Sanchez has Not happened yet but if it did, a note of caution.

At the end of the season we were all pretty unanimous that we needed a natural striker, a top defensive cm,a decent back up goalie,a good 3rd choice defender and now apparently a right back.

In all the excitement over Sanchez,anyone care to tell me where the f**k Sanchez fits that list,unless he's a goalie waiting to come out of the closet,we are being bloody hoodwinked with a vanity f**king signing that seals 4th and if we are really lucky maybe a domestic cup.

I was and am happy with the FA cup but feel a bit f**ked off that we'll be waiting 3yrs minimum to add title number 14.

Anyway if and that's a big If, Sanchez does come then someone has to do a chant for him that talks about his love for those 80s short shorts.

I have continually made that same point and 1989 is the only one who responds to the question and he claims (wrongly imo) that Sanchez is a centre forward. For sure he isn't your prototype number 9 that is suited to the English game and yes we can play him there, but the reality is that we absolutely will not get the best out of him if we start asking him to do the things that Giroud does ( hold up the ball, win headers, shag birds on a Friday night in the team hotel ). That of course means that we either revert to a 4-4-2 (about as likely as me winning lotto) or we play him on the wing in which case we still haven't brought in a better striker than giroud For me, if we sign Sanchez, it has all the hallmarks of the ozil deal last summer......buying a quality player for a position where there is no urgent need

Btw you are absolutely correct re jens......he was a top quality keeper but suffered brain farts from time to time - he is still my favourite AFC keeper though

[kiwomya]

Lehmann was a world class goalie just daft as a brush. We didn't go unbeaten in a season and concede one goal in the run up to a champions league final by accident.

Cech has had one of the world's best defences in front of him for best part of a decade,put him behind the scum's or Victims defence and he would soon lose all those clean sheets.

By the way for the poster that said second most clean sheets for Ches,it wasn't. He was joint first with Cech who doesn't get exposed by Aw's tactics.

I would go for one of two keepers Ochoa,the Mexican one and David Marshall.

Both have excellent reflex saves but both seemed comfortable on crosses.

If we get Debuchy, it cannot he at the expense of losing Campbell to a midtable bunch of nothings like The barcodes. Cash up front for Debuchy and nothing else. Pretty sure the fat sports warehouse owner would appreciate that.

If we get Sanchez, good but why can't we throw money at someone for a defender as well as telling Vermalen that The Bfg will be unavailable for the season start so you are first choice,try and regain your 1st season form,when Kos dodgy and you were boss. Failing that stick some cash under Kenwright's nose for their young defender Stones . They are so desperate for the money to get Lukaku and need to fend off Shitty for Barkley that they would do it.

Sanchez has Not happened yet but if it did, a note of caution.

At the end of the season we were all pretty unanimous that we needed a natural striker, a top defensive cm,a decent back up goalie,a good 3rd choice defender and now apparently a right back.

In all the excitement over Sanchez,anyone care to tell me where the f**k Sanchez fits that list,unless he's a goalie waiting to come out of the closet,we are being bloody hoodwinked with a vanity f**king signing that seals 4th and if we are really lucky maybe a domestic cup.

I was and am happy with the FA cup but feel a bit f**ked off that we'll be waiting 3yrs minimum to add title number 14.

Anyway if and that's a big If, Sanchez does come then someone has to do a chant for him that talks about his love for those 80s short shorts.

I have continually made that same point and 1989 is the only one who responds to the question and he claims (wrongly imo) that Sanchez is a centre forward. For sure he isn't your prototype number 9 that is suited to the English game and yes we can play him there, but the reality is that we absolutely will not get the best out of him if we start asking him to do the things that Giroud does ( hold up the ball, win headers, shag birds on a Friday night in the team hotel ). That of course means that we either revert to a 4-4-2 (about as likely as me winning lotto) or we play him on the wing in which case we still haven't brought in a better striker than giroud For me, if we sign Sanchez, it has all the hallmarks of the ozil deal last summer......buying a quality player for a position where there is no urgent need

Btw you are absolutely correct re jens......he was a top quality keeper but suffered brain farts from time to time - he is still my favourite AFC keeper though

Well, he's an upgrade on anything we have. You said yourself that's what the club should be doing with any transfer.

Saying that, I'm still waiting for Wenger to say "we aren't interested" at the next possible opportunity.

[northbank123]

Maybe you just don't read other people's replies Augie because I've already responded on the point

I reckon he is almost perfectly suited to what a 'wing forward' should be in a system like ours. I also think - based on what relativity little I've seen of him to be fair - that he could play the CF role effectively for vast majority of games. It is such a demanding role that unless you've got one of the very top strikers in world football you are going to have to sacrifice on something. With Sanchez it's physical presence but this could be offset by his pace, movement and footballing brain. When he has been on one of his shit-hot runs how many headers has Rooney scored despite his lack of real height? For games where we really need a different approach we've got the option of playing Giroud up front.

I still don't think for a minute that signing Sanchez would justify our unwavering dedication to 4-5-1 but I think he would be a good fit for us.

[rigsby]

Sanchez offers pace and goals, something we lacked last year. I still thinking we will sign another striker (Remy probably) but if we get Sanchez, it is a huge deal. I know people are pre disposed to pick holes in anyone we sign, but I would say in this case to really enjoy it (player pending!)

[augie]

I'm not disagreeing that he is a great player but I am disagreeing with the suggestion that he is suited to play giroud's position. He is very suited to play on either wing of a 4-3-3 but that still doesn't tackle the issue of upgrading giroud or at least getting some competition for him. I am also wondering how player will react when he doesn't track back to give some assistance to his full backs - this is a longstanding issue in our team and has seen all wingers draw the ire of our support as our full backs continue to be left 2 against 1 and I don't think that it is fair to ask our talented players (that includes podolski, ozil, cazorla etc) play in positions/systems that do not maximise their undoubted talents

I really cant wait to see the reactions of the wally fans on here, when they realise that sanchez is a proper quality player (and not the false god that feo is) and takes wally position in the team

[northbank123]

I wouldn't say he is "suited" to the role either, but few players are and I would say he is good enough to play it well by and large.

Agree about the tracking back - that's why I said he's perfect for what a wing forward SHOULD be for us. The extent to which our wingers are expected to babysit every week sickens me.