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I find it hilarious how stupid a lot of people are. We dropped basically all our COVID protocols like masks, social distancing etc in Oireland because that's what the corrupt moron politicians wanted to give the whining public.

Well they got it.

Now the same fuckhead public are whining because we've had a massive spike in infections and the knock on effect is again the negative impact on our already third world health service. Wow. What a surprise.

You can't have it both ways fucktards. You wanted "freedom", you got it. Now fuck off and enjoy it you thick cùnts. :box: :lol:

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Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:38 pm
A11M11 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:30 am
You are of course quite right Rob , it has not gone away and it's naive to think otherwise.
Daily mail stated recently that — Up to 60 PER CENT of people in England have still NEVER had Covid: and those that have may not have had the same strain .
All we can do now that the brakes are off is look after your own personal situation , and those that say blithely " I've had it and my jabs so I am safe " are fooling themselves .
Summer is coming so drinking outside makes more sense than going into crowded bars although the way that the price of drinks is spiralling , they may be hard to find.
I think it is going to be a case of getting an annual jab - hopefully the warmer weather will see cases drop off
I'm pretty sure I recall reading that the weather and temperature don't affect it either way Rob....?

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It might not be an effect on the virus itself but in warmer weather peiople tend to spend more time in the open air than in crowded rooms which curtails the spread .
Today the sun is warm and we have 30 plus people sitting out side and 3 in the bar.

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I can only speak for my own personal experience, so I was acutely aware that infections numbers were increasing.

When Omicron hit, I didn't go to a game for two months. Always had planned to go to the Pool game though.

The big difference this time to games before xmas, is on the tubes literally no one is bothering wearing masks. I am sure I got it down there either coming to or from the game. We found a restaurant that has a heated patio so we could even have a pre match beer outside. So aoart from the tube, pretty much spent the whole evening outside.

Just goes to show, if you mix with any amount of people at the moment, you can still get Omicron. 1 in 20 have it in England.

I'm bored shitless here, Feel rough but its more the lovely weather and inability to get out that is frustrating.

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:10 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:38 pm
A11M11 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:30 am
You are of course quite right Rob , it has not gone away and it's naive to think otherwise.
Daily mail stated recently that — Up to 60 PER CENT of people in England have still NEVER had Covid: and those that have may not have had the same strain .
All we can do now that the brakes are off is look after your own personal situation , and those that say blithely " I've had it and my jabs so I am safe " are fooling themselves .
Summer is coming so drinking outside makes more sense than going into crowded bars although the way that the price of drinks is spiralling , they may be hard to find.
I think it is going to be a case of getting an annual jab - hopefully the warmer weather will see cases drop off
I'm pretty sure I recall reading that the weather and temperature don't affect it either way Rob....?
Best stick to drinking or injecting bleach, just to be sure

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So Usmanov IS just as Big a CUN.T as Abramovich:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60825983



A Russian billionaire sanctioned by the UK says he no longer owns many former properties, potentially putting them beyond the reach of the law.
Ex-Arsenal shareholder Alisher Usmanov's £82m London home and Surrey mansion were put into trusts linked to the oligarch.
This raises questions over the effectiveness of sanctions imposed since the invasion of Ukraine began.

The UK government says Mr Usmanov "cannot access his assets".

On 3 March, seven days after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Alisher Usmanov was added to the list of sanctioned Russian businessmen.
His assets were frozen, he was banned from visiting the UK, and British citizens and businesses were banned from dealing with him.

Foreign Secretary Liz Truss said: “We will hit oligarchs and individuals closely associated with the Putin regime and his barbarous war.”

The government said sanctions would cut him off from “significant UK interests including mansions worth tens of millions”.
But this is now in doubt because Mr Usmanov’s spokesman says he is no longer the legal owner of many of those assets.

Born in Uzbekistan in the Soviet Union, Alisher Usmanov, 68, owns USM Holdings, a huge conglomerate involved in mining and telecoms, including Russia's second biggest mobile network MegaFon.


His wealth has been estimated at $18.4bn (£14bn), including "Beechwood House in Highgate… and the 16th Century Sutton Place estate in Surrey”, the UK government said.


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BBC research estimates that Beechwood House could now be worth about £82m.
But a spokesman for Mr Usmanov said that most of the billionaire’s UK property, as well as his yacht, had already been “transferred into irrevocable trusts”.
Those are trusts which cannot usually be amended, modified, or revoked after they’re created.
When the assets were transferred, Mr Usmanov no longer owned them, his spokesman said. “Nor was he able to manage them or deal with their sale, but could only use them on a rental basis.”
“Mr Usmanov withdrew from the beneficiaries of the trusts, donating his beneficial rights to his family," he said.
The spokesman was answering questions about Mr Usmanov’s wealth put to him as part of an investigation into the assets of 35 oligarchs close to Putin.
The Russian Asset Tracker is a global partnership involving 27 media organisations including the Guardian, the Organized Crime and Corruption Reporting Project (OCCRP) and BBC Panorama.
The project identified $3.4bn (£2.6bn) worth of specific assets which it says belong to Mr Usmanov.
But if Mr Usmanov is not the beneficial owner of much of this property, it could be beyond the reach of UK sanctions. And the same could be true for other oligarchs.
According to lawyer and sanctions expert Michael O’Kane, “it’s very common for high net worth individuals… to structure both their commercial enterprises and their personal wealth in a way that gives them maximum tax efficiency. Quite often that results in structures whereby they release ownership and control in return for more tax efficiency.”
“In order for an entity to be designated under sanctions it needs to be owned or controlled by a sanctioned person. The more opaque and complex the structures of ownership the more difficult that is to establish.”


Tracing the ownership of the two houses targeted by the UK government is extremely difficult. They have been held through a complex web of trusts and companies registered in places like the British Virgin Islands, which have until recently not required the ultimate owner to be disclosed. This illustrates the difficulty investigators will have in working out which assets should be subject to sanctions.
Despite offshore secrecy the BBC has been able to identify two trusts that have owned the properties, and the involvement of one of Mr Usmanov’s closest business associates.

They involve a long-time associate of Mr Usmanov, Farhad Moshiri, the owner of Everton football club, who is not subject to sanctions. He’s a shareholder in Mr Usmanov’s company USM, which sponsored Everton until the club terminated the relationship in the wake of the Ukraine invasion.
Leaked documents obtained by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and other corporate records show Mr Moshiri was the shareholder of a company in the British Virgin Islands called Coney Holdings Limited.

Until 2014 it owned the shares of the corporate trustees of the Sutton Place Property Unit Trust, which owns the Surrey Mansion, drawing a direct link between Mr Moshiri and the house.

After Sutton Place Property Unit Trust was set up in 2005, Mr Usmanov was given a £6m loan facility secured against the trust.
Mr Usmanov was also the beneficiary of the Pauillac Trust, the owner of Hanley Limited, the Isle of Man company that owns Beechwood, the other property targeted by the government.

Once again, Mr Moshiri was involved, this time as a director of Pauillac Properties Limited, a company owned by the trust, that held shares in Hanley Limited.

Mr Usmanov declined to respond to questions about his relationship with the two trusts, or whether he had ceased to have a beneficial interest in them. While the evidence confirms he was once involved, exactly who stands behind the two trusts now, and therefore owns the properties, is a mystery.

A spokesman for Mr Moshiri told the BBC that he “ceased to be a director of Pauillac in 2016” and that Mr Moshiri “has never been nor is he now involved in the management and/or control of the Sutton Place Property Unit Trust”.

In relation to USM, Mr Moshiri's spokesman said he had sold 50% of his stake in the company but is prevented from selling the rest by the Russian government. He has resigned from the board.

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They should either just sell the properties (Someone out there must surely be able to afford it/ them) and then let the cun.ts come after their money etc


OR


Make them into dwellings for the Homeless Ukrainian migrants....

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StuartL wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 4:20 pm
DB10GOONER wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:10 pm
Gunner Rob wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:38 pm
A11M11 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:30 am
You are of course quite right Rob , it has not gone away and it's naive to think otherwise.
Daily mail stated recently that — Up to 60 PER CENT of people in England have still NEVER had Covid: and those that have may not have had the same strain .
All we can do now that the brakes are off is look after your own personal situation , and those that say blithely " I've had it and my jabs so I am safe " are fooling themselves .
Summer is coming so drinking outside makes more sense than going into crowded bars although the way that the price of drinks is spiralling , they may be hard to find.
I think it is going to be a case of getting an annual jab - hopefully the warmer weather will see cases drop off
I'm pretty sure I recall reading that the weather and temperature don't affect it either way Rob....?
Best stick to drinking or injecting bleach, just to be sure
Sounds like a plan! 👍 :lol:

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:43 pm
Got COVID, tested positive this morning after 2 days of sore throat, blocked nose and slightly elevated temp. Ironically only one place I could have got it, yes Arsenal!

If this is what COVID is about, I will take that but not counting the chickens. Gonna speak to a quack tomorrow.
Same for me , its finally got me after lots of gigs and football, must have been the liverpool game I think . Not too bad , sore throat and was a bit fdrained over weekend but feeling better today. Git first two gigs of the year this weekend so need to be ok. Get well soon nut.

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Numbers are starting to fly here too (SW France). Yesterday it was up to about 180,000 new cases across France, although admissions to ICU are very few. My missus and I still wear masks into the Supermarket or other 'busy' indoor places and I reckon a good third to half of other people do the same.

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gooner265 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:44 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:43 pm
Got COVID, tested positive this morning after 2 days of sore throat, blocked nose and slightly elevated temp. Ironically only one place I could have got it, yes Arsenal!

If this is what COVID is about, I will take that but not counting the chickens. Gonna speak to a quack tomorrow.
Same for me , its finally got me after lots of gigs and football, must have been the liverpool game I think . Not too bad , sore throat and was a bit fdrained over weekend but feeling better today. Git first two gigs of the year this weekend so need to be ok. Get well soon nut.
Ty mate, I just did a lat flow test this morning to see if its started to go, and it looks like I am still highly infectious. Was a dark red line, I logged the result on the NHS covid app, it says guidance is 10 days isolation which can be cut short if you test negative on days 5/6. It's not law now so in theory you can do what you like.

On the symptoms front its now nothing more than a cold. Hopefully I will test negative by Saturday.

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nut flush gooner wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:39 am
gooner265 wrote:
Tue Mar 22, 2022 10:44 pm
nut flush gooner wrote:
Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:43 pm
Got COVID, tested positive this morning after 2 days of sore throat, blocked nose and slightly elevated temp. Ironically only one place I could have got it, yes Arsenal!

If this is what COVID is about, I will take that but not counting the chickens. Gonna speak to a quack tomorrow.
Same for me , its finally got me after lots of gigs and football, must have been the liverpool game I think . Not too bad , sore throat and was a bit fdrained over weekend but feeling better today. Git first two gigs of the year this weekend so need to be ok. Get well soon nut.
Ty mate, I just did a lat flow test this morning to see if its started to go, and it looks like I am still highly infectious. Was a dark red line, I logged the result on the NHS covid app, it says guidance is 10 days isolation which can be cut short if you test negative on days 5/6. It's not law now so in theory you can do what you like.

On the symptoms front its now nothing more than a cold. Hopefully I will test negative by Saturday.
I had a faint red line this morning dont know if that means it going ?

Feel much better today and working again, i wfh anyway but supposed to be at O2 Friday so have a dilemma if still positive

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I had a feint red line on day 1, got thicker/darker in the two tests since.

Defo a dilema if you test positive on Friday. You have to remember, there's going to be people there that might not do as well as you do with this virus. Even vaccinated, I was quadruple jabbed.

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Wear your mask, take a bottle of sanitiser and try to avoid indoor enclosed places. It will be fine mate, you'll be almost a week into it.

Life has to go on now.

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Life does go on , look everyone’s got it or had it , unless you have issues wtf tbh :D

Nut flush you will be fine and no doubt Gunner Rob will be too , what about USA , Mexico even Belgium actually please don’t answer as I don’t give two monkeys tosses .

Anyway more importantly that Putin is a *word censored* isn’t he . Funny how lots of countries are supplying the Ukraine’s army , even Sweden giving 5000 anti tank guns . Makes you wonder if Sas and the like from other places are on the ground giving guidance . Will certainly give *word censored* face a bit of a headache . I have a feeling he will regret this .

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shu wrote:
Wed Mar 23, 2022 6:14 pm
Life does go on , look everyone’s got it or had it , unless you have issues wtf tbh :D

Nut flush you will be fine and no doubt Gunner Rob will be too , what about USA , Mexico even Belgium actually please don’t answer as I don’t give two monkeys tosses .

Anyway more importantly that Putin is a *word censored* isn’t he . Funny how lots of countries are supplying the Ukraine’s army , even Sweden giving 5000 anti tank guns . Makes you wonder if Sas and the like from other places are on the ground giving guidance . Will certainly give *word censored* face a bit of a headache . I have a feeling he will regret this .
They won't be on the ground in Ukraine, but they will have "proxies" in there, training, advising and fighting.

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