THE WENGER THREAD

[TeeCee]

The fact is, Arsenal are probably the most cash rich club in Europe right now.

Another 'fact' is that we're STILL 'negotiating' for Mustafi supposedly?!
Where most teams get a deal done in a day or two, with us it's at least two weeks......before it falls apart. I suspect that either no offer has been made, or we have made an offer of 7m because Wonga values him at that and Valencia want £28m. I fully expect this to fall apart before the window closes, probably at the last minute and Wonga will say there was no time to sign anyone else. Arsenal Football Club are one big fuck up, an embarrassment, it's Farsenal FC these days and it makes me so sad.

We go in to the season knowing we have NO chance of winning the league.....again! How depressing.

[rodders999]

18 days left before the window closes so maybe just enough time to sneak through the Mustafi deal at 11:59pm on 31st. Bunch of fucking amateur, small time, pathetic, spineless, bottle job LOSERS.

Fuck the absolute lot of them.

[Wilson]

Wenger buys into his role as a someone who looks for value, and wont overpay, to the point he is completely inflexible and cannot adjust in order to get things down.

Listening to his comments this week, he comes across as someone in complete denial about the state of modern football. He is still saying how 'clubs cannot spend this money forever', which is a line he has dropped over the years. He thinks he is some sort of economic expert that he can foresee a collapse in the football economy. The truth is, these transfer fees are just a byproduct of football clubs getting richer. Its a simple example of inflation - the more money within a market, the more products in that market cost. Clubs arent overreaching by paying these transfer fees, they simply pay the going rate in a market that has seen rapid inflation due to massive amounts of cash that has been injected into the game, via the tv deals and other sources of revenue.

Wenger is a dinosaur,he is a relic who belong in a museum, because his idea's of football are lost to history. There will be no 'bust' in which transfer fees come down to the days when 30m was the going rate for an elite player. Football is recession proof - people will watch it, and go to games regardless of how the economy as a whole is doing. At most, their will be a peak - in which for a period of time transfer fees remain stable at price X. But Wenger keeps talking about a market crash, a football version of the 2008 GFC in which assets form stocks to houses, declined 30-60% whilst Lehmann Brothers among other imploded. Wenger actually thinks the crash will take down giant football clubs, and bring prices down to more 'acceptable levels'.

Wenger is no economist. He is actually very naive in financial matters. For instance, in times of high inflation, its better to buy assets even at their exorbitant price, because if inflation continues, they rise in value. Point and case Suarez - could have had him for 50m a few years ago. Now though, he would be worth well over that.

But Wenger thinks he is Micheal Burry in 'The Big Short' . He genuinely believes the crash is coming.

[Redarmy]

18 days left before the window closes so maybe just enough time to sneak through the Mustafi deal at 11:59pm on 31st. Bunch of fucking amateur, small time, pathetic, spineless, bottle job LOSERS.

Fuck the absolute lot of them.

I don't think Wenger will spend the money....seems to be a deep seated pathological fear of spending

[mojokickin]

You have to give it to the senile old *word censored*. He honestly believes his own crap and sticks by it.
We can pull our hair out, wonder what the fuck is going on, yell our lungs out and finally laugh at ourselves but the lord still wins.
Death by repetition.

[cameron326]

So, we're trying to win the league with a 15 league goals a seasons striker (16,14,16 in past three seasons) and one competent centre half (Koscielny).

This could be the year Wenger's piss taking finally catches up with him.

[cameron326]

Leicester winning the league last year has forever tarnished his reputation. The notion that only the oil clubs clubs could win the league thoroughly discredited - you just need to build a good enough team - a solid defence, functional midfield and a bit of magic upfront, with a manager who knows that players strengths. that's all Leicester were last year. Oh, well, 13 (seasons) the lucky number?

[Kvltman]

Leicester winning the league last year has forever tarnished his reputation. The notion that only the oil clubs clubs could win the league thoroughly discredited - you just need to build a good enough team - a solid defence, functional midfield and a bit of magic upfront, with a manager who knows that players strengths. that's all Leicester were last year. Oh, well, 13 (seasons) the lucky number?

And it is also laughable and insulting to the fans who Wenger and the board now point to Leicester of how it can be done, or indeed, how it should be done.

Yet, this model hasn't produced a league title at this club for over 10 years. Now we are suddenly starting to use Leicester as our role model?

I wonder how many times this season 'master tactician' Wenger will allow his squad to over rule him and decide on a game plan.

I really hope it all catches up with him this season, in a disastrous way, just so we can be rid of him, and all move on. The next step would be a new board but Wenger going would be a catalyst for a lot of people to find their passion in the club again I think.

[StuartL]

18 days left before the window closes so maybe just enough time to sneak through the Mustafi deal at 11:59pm on 31st. Bunch of fucking amateur, small time, pathetic, spineless, bottle job LOSERS.

Fuck the absolute lot of them.

The AKB will insist he is just keeping his powder dry (for the next transfer window, where of course nobody will be available)

[Offside]

Leicester winning the league last year has forever tarnished his reputation. The notion that only the oil clubs clubs could win the league thoroughly discredited - you just need to build a good enough team - a solid defence, functional midfield and a bit of magic upfront, with a manager who knows that players strengths. that's all Leicester were last year. Oh, well, 13 (seasons) the lucky number?

The fact that he was able to say money doesn't matter with a straight face was laughable. Money was his excuse for why Arsenal couldn't compete. Then when Leicester blew that theory out of the water, the obvious question was "why haven't Arsenal won it for so long, if money doesn't matter?"

Oh yeah and we've had this nonsense:

We don’t know. [Pep] Guardiola has come in, he’s a world class manager. [Jose] Mourinho has come in at Man United. Will that all click very quickly or will it take some time? We don’t know. Sometimes it can work marvellously well, sometimes it takes time. I hope it takes time and we can take advantage of the fact that we have stability

Wasn't LAST season the time when our 'stability' was supposed to pay off?

I believe that a club, despite all the money, is as well about identity. Identity is about values. And values have been carried through generations. It is about the chairman, the manager or players who stay for a long time. I hope that will always be the case. Just spending the money or sacking the manager, football has to be bigger than that

And what is our identity? Rinsing the fans over season tickets (a policy which you defended, Mr Wenger), selling our soul to a Middle Eastern airline, being part of Kroenke's portfolio. It certainly isn't our "beautiful" football, which has been non-existent for years.

The information from last season is that it is not necessarily the club who invested the most who won the championship, or who had been at the top

Again, so why didn't Arsenal win the title during the "austerity" period?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87791.html

[blair207]

Re the post above. He is an idiot. The easy title race was last year when the richest clubs were all playing badly. That isn't going to happen again. At least one will hit real form and it won't be Arsenal.

[Perryashburtongroves]

The information from last season is that it is not necessarily the club who invested the most who won the championship, or who had been at the top

Again, so why didn't Arsenal win the title during the "austerity" period?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 87791.html

Absolutely. A fucking decade or more of going on about not needing to spend or not being able to compete because of money and now he makes himself look a *word censored* again because he's just basically gone back on everything that he used as an excuse for failure. As usual though, why don't his luvvies in the press actually question him on this? It's another example of how he just a changes the story to fit his own agenda. You can't trust anything that comes out of this *word censored*'s mouth. He's simply a lying, manipulative, narcissistic failure.

[Sean]

I've posted his press conference in the Liverpool thread, assuming any of you can stomach the sight and sound of the bastard

The shit coming out of his mouth about money and not being able to compete is the same shit we heard 15 years ago. Weren't we all told that once we moved ground, we would be able to compete with everyone for the very best players. Is there any other club in the world whose manager makes so many fuc king excuses?

It just goes to show that The Old Fraud is fuck all without David Dein. He would harass him to buy players and reassure him that the money wasn't an issue. Over the last eight years, we have seen the true Wenger; a stubborn miserly old charlatan. He still clings to his obsession with youth and the 'internal transfer market'. The endless injury crises suit his agenda. His commitment to this boring, ineffective sideways football is absolute.

I wonder how many times this season 'master tactician' Wenger will allow his squad to over rule him and decide on a game plan.

I really hope it all catches up with him this season, in a disastrous way, just so we can be rid of him, and all move on. The next step would be a new board but Wenger going would be a catalyst for a lot of people to find their passion in the club again I think.

That only happens twice a season at most. Shame, really. We usually do well when the players decide to defend and attack responsibly.

I hope this season is his last, but I have no faith that he will go, no matter how much he may fuck up this season. I expect him to stay on to prolong this absolute torture

[GranadaJoe]

I saw TOF interviewed by Garth Crooks today, and even he gave AW an easy ride. When questioned about our lack of signings, AW again trotted out that 'it has been a slow window with little movement' and GC didn't challenge him on it.

The Chavs have spent 65m on Kante and Batshuayi. The Victims 68m, Manure140m, Citeh 160m.

How is he allowed to get away with spouting bollocks all the time?

[Wilson]

You have to give it to the senile old *word censored*. He honestly believes his own crap and sticks by it.
We can pull our hair out, wonder what the fuck is going on, yell our lungs out and finally laugh at ourselves but the lord still wins.
Death by repetition.

Thats the one reason why he is the most ignorant manager in Europe. He is never humbled by the constant let downs and short comings. He never questions his own methods.

For Arsene Wenger, ignorance truly is bliss. The top managers see him as cannon fodder, the masses see him as someone who isnt a serious candidate to lift the league or CL, but is his own head, he is the most forward thinking and innovative manager around.