As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
CuntoKronke could just as well own another kind of business a baked bean manufacturer or a fashion house - All he is interested in is PROFIT nothin more and nothing less - He couldn't give a fuckk if Gooners started throwing themselves under tubetrains in their utter despair - He already owned (and still does) sports franchises in the USA and that was why he saw Arsenal as a very rich picking indeed, all it took was for Bracewell Smithshit and Co to be offered a very nice little earner for their shares and that was it he was in - KERRRRCHHINNNGGGG and we will Not be going anywhere - The only person rich enough to buy the wigwearingcunt out is the olgarcunnt Usmanov...the only benefit in that is that he Would spend money and make the manager spend or get rid of him...
Every Which Way We Are Fucked Royally Up The Arris...Get Used To It...and get that Arasenal Brand Lube the next time you're in the Armoury fellow Gooners coz we really are FUCKKED. - Wenger's going NoWhere - He is not right in the head - But right enough to still keep earning the board and owner/s a nice profit every year.
All of Em CUN.TS "Yes"...But they have us over the proverbial barrel.
NickF wrote:A few stories going around today that Usmanov is thinking about jumping ship to Everton.
Thought he was supposed to be Arsenal through and through?
Could just be paper talk though....
His business partner Moshiri went to Everton so it's quite possible. It won't matter a fuck though.....Kronke, Usmanov, Moshiri..........
As long as Wenger's the manager we're treading water.
But chin up. Only one more year. Let's hope it's painful for him. Be nice to see him suffer for what he's singlehandedly put us through.
NickF wrote:A few stories going around today that Usmanov is thinking about jumping ship to Everton.
Thought he was supposed to be Arsenal through and through?
Could just be paper talk though....
I don't believe any of the Americans, Arabs, Russians, Uzbeks, Thais, Chinese etc have even a vague understanding of English football or the clubs they've bought.
It's about ego and/or money-making.
Not only would they not have a clue about the history of their club, most of them barely attend a game.
NickF wrote:A few stories going around today that Usmanov is thinking about jumping ship to Everton.
Thought he was supposed to be Arsenal through and through?
Could just be paper talk though....
I don't believe any of the Americans, Arabs, Russians, Uzbeks, Thais, Chinese etc have even a vague understanding of English football or the clubs they've bought.
It's about ego and/or money-making.
Not only would they not have a clue about the history of their club, most of them barely attend a game.
some are better than others though....some pay off debts and use their own money to bank roll a club, buy new players
Some just take out millions every year, ones wearing wigs i believe
Miguel Delaney has written that basically Arsenal, as an organisation, are deliberately holding back their own future and development, to play second fiddle to Wenger's ego and his desire to be "proved right". A ridiculous situation when you think about it. Arsene FC indeed.
Offside wrote:Miguel Delaney has written that basically Arsenal, as an organisation, are deliberately holding back their own future and development, to play second fiddle to Wenger's ego and his desire to be "proved right". A ridiculous situation when you think about it. Arsene FC indeed.
That's a good, accurate article and yet more proof if it was needed that the media have turned. They've had enough of him now and run out of things to say. I thought this quote was most apt:
. He has acted as if the football world should bend to his ideals, rather than himself adapting to give himself the ideal farewell.
Given that we have no hope of winning the PL or CL, nothing matters this year other than seeing him off.
Not that the board will sack him or not offer him an extension; but the more unpleasant things get for him the more chance there is that he will jack things in.
Although saying that I can't see him leaving if things are so bad that he can't spin it that he has left off his own accord for a new challenge - there is no way that he will be comfortable admitting that he's not the best man on the planet for the job. Hence why after the hull Fa cup final would have been ideal - even though he was finished long before that he could have gone out on a high and preserved his legacy for most.
Can't help thinking that this is once again deflecting the blame from Wenger.
The board are culpable for allowing Wenger to do whatever the hell he pleases without question, but at the end of the day it is Wenger who keeps making the same mistakes year after year after year.
He's a fucking laughing stock at this stage, the butt of every joke.
Even the new FIFA 17 trailer shows three managers - Maureen and Pep celebrating a goal but Wanka in his big fucking jacket moaning at the 4th official.
Derek Acorah wrote:How is this bloke still your manager?!
Because Arsenal FC doesn't exist anymore. It is now and has been for 10 years a business operation. Wenger maintains a consistent and profitable team, keeping the share holders happy. Customer satisfaction has declined but when has that ever got a senior business partner the sack, whilst revenue consistently increases year on year?
It's that simple really.
Another reason is that no top manager who wants to win titles both domestically or in Europe will ever come to Arsenal whilst this board is in situ. So, all these supporters claiming we will do better without Wenger as we'll get a top manager who will buy the players and coach them into winners, need to think again. If we can't attract Vardy from Leicester, do we really think we can attract one of the world greats managers? Not a chance in hell with the constraints they will be working under.
There you go again......You always do this, support Wenger in a backhanded way. I wish you would have the balls to come out and say that you support him unconditionally instead of constantly making excuses for him. Here once again is the intimation that it is not the manager who is the problem, but the board who has constraints on him. In reality it is the other way around... Wenger is Kroenke's boy, he does his masters bidding, and the board submit to Wenger, not the other way around.
We cannot attract players because I believe players have finally woken up to the fact that Wenger puts profit before trophy's and they will NEVER win anything at Arsenal. It's not attracting a new manager (hell we cannot even get rid of the one we have) that is the problem, the problem is no decent player wants to play for WENGER. And Wenger has helped shape and create the board that HE wants. Once Wenger goes EVERYTHING will change. I concede that Kroenke is a total prat as well, but WENGER has created the culture that is at Arsenal today.
By stating "Wenger is Kroenke's boy" you've just agreed with my argument.
Once Wenger goes, nothing will change whilst we have this board in place.
What don't you get?? The board is shit scared of Wenger because of his sycophantic relationship with Kroenke. Wenger has used his Svengali like influence on the board like he has the fans. Wenger HAS money, he WILL NOT spend it because he has a better way and the board are too scared to stand up to him. Any half decent manager who replaces him WILL spend the money on offer and the board will be behind his programme & ambition, not a slave to it like they are with Wenger's. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that most of them despise him.
Wenger is a despot, he has shown his true colours time & time again. If ANYBODY opposes him he makes sure they go. If there were ever to be a huge confrontational bust up that whole board will go before he does.
Haha, Wenger has mystical powers over Kroenke's. Thats funny.
Anyway, your team beat Arsenal on Sunday, thought you'd be happy?
DB10GOONER wrote:Not much about modern Arsenal really angers me anymore - I feel more a sense of hopeless despondency... but Wenger's "not ready" comment is still boiling my piss. How can we not be ready? Why didn't he can the Euro's punditry and spend that time getting us ready?
Imagine your boss asking why the high-profile multi-million pound project he handed you went tits up and you answering; "Well, we weren't ready. I spent the last month or so working for another company and didn't have time to get our thing ready." That would be a sacking right the fuck there.
We weren't ready.
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
Same here, I know if I used that excuse at work for performing poorly at a given deadline, I'd be taken to a disciplinary or out the door. The board have done nothing but accept it.
Whilst I agree the board are wrong to accept it, you must also admit that Wenger is in the wrong for actually doing it. We can't just blame the board. Wenger has to also take responsibility for his own actions - and inactions too.
Yes, he does have to take responsibility. His get out is that he's the team manager, not the managing director. Thats why he should be castigated for team affairs...like not being ready for the start of the season, and the board for not taking action in the transfer market and taking action, challenging the manager to deliver a lot more than he is.
but Wenger's "not ready" comment is still boiling my piss.
How can we not be ready? Why didn't he can the Euro's punditry and spend that time getting us ready?
