THE WENGER THREAD

[xgtdec]

Im hoping Wengers final nail in the coffin is when he claims RVP's league medal as an Arsenal trophy!!

[Chippy]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

[northbank123]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

But 45% of that 50% 'in favour' said IF he changes his fundamental values on 4th place being the height of our ambitions amongst other things. Which everyone knows he won't. Not against him but hardly in favour of him either. Given his stubbornness they might as well have put an option saying "Yes - if he brings success". 45% of people ducked out of that survey as far as I'm concerned, it's a pointless question to ask on the survey unless you say Yes or No.

Although it does show that whilst support for him is waning it doesn't necessarily mean that those losing faith are switching sides and campaigning for him to go. And besides, the BSM was a relatively modest poll in terms of numbers, and I'm sure that those who undertook it were probably to the anti-Wenger side of the mean, given that it's a protest group.

[SteveO 35]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

Yes and when you consider that the majority of BSM members are dissatisfied with the club generally that is a high pro Wenger figure. What would that percentage be if you took a poll of all those going to the Bowl - my view is that it would be a minimum of 70/30 in favour of Wenger, possibly as high as 80%

I'll give you an update tomorrow night after I've sat with my old man (Chief AKB) and his cronies (mostly AKBs) in the Theo Walcott fan club (aka: Block 2). Apart from a few grumpy old gits in the back row of that block the majority are definitely in the "There's Only One Arsene Wenger" bracket

People think I've either gone mad or that I'm on the wind up with this contract extension business but honestly if Wenger secures the Virtual Trophy in either of the two years left on his current deal why wouldn't Kroenke extend it? What would be different about that achievement with any of the past 8 years - nothing. Kroenke needs Wenger to eventually help him to sell the club for the maximum amount of profit and few other managers, if any, would sign up to the 'sell all of our best players' and compete for nothing mentality. They are perfect for each other

[mcdowell42]

i wish he would shut the fuck up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... adium.html

[arseofacrow]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

Yes and when you consider that the majority of BSM members are dissatisfied with the club generally that is a high pro Wenger figure. What would that percentage be if you took a poll of all those going to the Bowl - my view is that it would be a minimum of 70/30 in favour of Wenger, possibly as high as 80%

And that's the point. I think the majority of fans going are probably still in favour, worldwide it's probably higher.

Like it or not, those on here are in the minority and it's easy for the wider media to portray us as nutjobs.

Well, they've got a point.

[SteveO 35]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

Yes and when you consider that the majority of BSM members are dissatisfied with the club generally that is a high pro Wenger figure. What would that percentage be if you took a poll of all those going to the Bowl - my view is that it would be a minimum of 70/30 in favour of Wenger, possibly as high as 80%

And that's the point. I think the majority of fans going are probably still in favour, worldwide it's probably higher.

Like it or not, those on here are in the minority and it's easy for the wider media to portray us as nutjobs.

Well, they've got a point.

Just take a look at all of the fans who respond to Arsenal's Facebook page or those that follow Twitter. Add to that 'corporate fans' (and I know many) whose knowledge is restricted to recent history and the fact that we're always in the Champions League. None of those are passionate enough to regularly come on to forums like this - they're the new breed, the ones the club wishes to expand.....and they overwhelming want Wenger to stay. The opinions expressed on here are a 'tiny minority'

When we were losing 1-0 at Swansea I waited for a mass show of disapproval in the away end, thinking to myself that the 3,000 or so hardy souls down there were mostly regular 'home and away' types....but there was little of this. The odd isolated voice shouting 'fucking sort it out Wenger' but twice as many tuts of dispproval from others.

People on here get caught up in the fact that this has become an overwhelmingly anti-Wenger forum.....but that is nowhere near representative of the club's overall fanbase and if we finish 4th wait and see the flack we'll get from those that still maintain what a fantastic achievement that is

[SteveO 35]

i wish he would shut the fuck up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... adium.html

Bit early for this shite....normally he waits till nearer season ticket renewal time

[Macca]

''Ready to spend big?''. Mmmm....not seen a comment like that before from him (not that I can remember)....with the open criticism recently of the team (he normally backs players no matter what)...has the worm turned???

[Lee1]

''Ready to spend big?''. Mmmm....not seen a comment like that before from him (not that I can remember)....with the open criticism recently of the team (he normally backs players no matter what)...has the worm turned???

Well I'm in the minority then....won't sign any big name which is so disappointing...boo,booo,booooo,fucking boooooo!

[Macca]

''Ready to spend big?''. Mmmm....not seen a comment like that before from him (not that I can remember)....with the open criticism recently of the team (he normally backs players no matter what)...has the worm turned???

Well I'm in the minority then....won't sign any big name which is so disappointing...boo,booo,booooo,fucking boooooo!

Lee, I agree with you he won't 'spend big', I just can't remember him saying anything like that before, it's normally super-super quality or some other bollocks....

[biglunn]

"We are ready to spend big again".... When the F did we ever spend big? Aah of course, our record signing made after the stadium was built when the debt was bigger and our finances tighter?

In the same article...."I am convinced this team has a fantastic mentality, fantastic quality and with the right level of confidence, if we can create the momentum, we can be a positive surprise until the end of the season." Wow, he is really convinced!

Another nugget.... "My plan is to keep all of the players we have and then to add maybe, if possible, two new players to the squad". A nice little escape clause - 'If possible' just in case he doesn't sign anyone. Or if he can't find those 'exceptional' players that would improve his fantastic squad.

Mmm.... the stadium such a massive drain.... for who? He forgets to tell you that although we have had repayments to make, this has more than offset by the HUGE increase in stadium revenue.... paid for by the fans. We have been posting profits (after repayments) ever since we moved into the Emirates, with the latest figures being the highest of any European club. The 'dream' that was sold to Arsenal fans when we moved - being able to compete with the elite - was blatantly directed into profits rather than invested into the team. Time after time we were told that the money was there, this is the best squad Arsene has worked with, he can't find players that can improve the team etc. Arsene has been bullshitting for the past 2 years or so - if this was a genuine reason why the fact did he not mention it long ago instead of making excuses?

Arsene and the club know that there is a big risk that the money from the cashpoint (fans) will dwindle as the attendance (bums on seats not tickets sold) is dropping - getting so obvious now with Cat A game like Man City , and the season ticket waiting list is evaporating. Not to forget that the Virtual Trophy money being at risk this season and losing the 4th CL spot next season. So instead of actually investing in the team, the brands front man Arsene is selling the dream... again.

Anyway F the money Arsene. Stop persisting with wasters like Gervinho Santos Diaby Rosicky - ditch them when it's obvious the can't cut it - don't give them a pay rise in your quest for a socialist wage structure which rewards mediocrity. Show that you can organise the current team to do basic defending, press in the midfield, and score some goals against lesser opposition before you spew your pathetic false hope and excuses.

We are in such dire straits that I feel we will sign a big player just like we did Arshavin. Same situation - Virtual Trophy at risk. We will sneak 4spot again, and the cycle continues

[Steve_I]

The recent BSM poll had the fans split almost exactly 50/50.

Yes and when you consider that the majority of BSM members are dissatisfied with the club generally that is a high pro Wenger figure. What would that percentage be if you took a poll of all those going to the Bowl - my view is that it would be a minimum of 70/30 in favour of Wenger, possibly as high as 80%

And that's the point. I think the majority of fans going are probably still in favour, worldwide it's probably higher

Like it or not, those on here are in the minority and it's easy for the wider media to portray us as nutjobs.

Well, they've got a point.

Just take a look at all of the fans who respond to Arsenal's Facebook page or those that follow Twitter. Add to that 'corporate fans' (and I know many) whose knowledge is restricted to recent history and the fact that we're always in the Champions League. None of those are passionate enough to regularly come on to forums like this - they're the new breed, the ones the club wishes to expand.....and they overwhelming want Wenger to stay. The opinions expressed on here are a 'tiny minority'

When we were losing 1-0 at Swansea I waited for a mass show of disapproval in the away end, thinking to myself that the 3,000 or so hardy souls down there were mostly regular 'home and away' types....but there was little of this. The odd isolated voice shouting 'fucking sort it out Wenger' but twice as many tuts of dispproval from others.

People on here get caught up in the fact that this has become an overwhelmingly anti-Wenger forum.....but that is nowhere near representative of the club's overall fanbase and if we finish 4th wait and see the flack we'll get from those that still maintain what a fantastic achievement that is

You'll get no flack from this wengerite. The bit I've made bold is key here I think. FWIW I come here because I find it more interesting than forum that tend to side with my views. Passionate enough I certainly am, but as I've said to otehrs before, this forum is a hard p-lace to post as a fan of Arsene.

[begeegs]

You'll get no flack from this wengerite. The bit I've made bold is key here I think. FWIW I come here because I find it more interesting than forum that tend to side with my views. Passionate enough I certainly am, but as I've said to otehrs before, this forum is a hard p-lace to post as a fan of Arsene.

Where are the pro-Wenger forums?

[biglunn]

They are out there.!

http://www.arsenal-land.co.uk