THE WENGER THREAD

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Redarmy wrote:
postmanPat91 wrote:
Sean wrote:
postmanPat91 wrote:A bit surprised Wenger has never toyed with a 3-5-2 to be honest. He doesn't give a fuck about our fullbacks bombing forward anyway so play 3 at the back, pack the midfield with tippy-tappers galore, and Lucas 'Raúl' Perez up top with the ear-cupper. Simples :barscarf:
Didn't we play 3-5-2 under Rioch and for a time under TOF?

I agree that this formation should suit us better, packing the midfield, as TOF likes, but with an extra striker and defender. Sounds too good for TOF to even consider :roll:

------------------------ Cech
-------- Holding - Mustafi - Koscielny
Bellerin ------------------------------- Monreal
--------------- Cazorla - Xhaka
------------------------ Ozil
----------------- Perez - Giroud
Rush wrote:
Sean wrote:
------------------------ Cech
-------- Holding - Mustafi - Koscielny
Bellerin ------------------------------- Monreal
--------------- Cazorla - Xhaka
------------------------ Ozil
----------------- Perez - Giroud
Isnt that more like packing the defence than mid?
Looks more like 532
I had in my mind something along the lines of this:

--------------------------Cech

-----------Bellerin----Kosc----Mustafi

----------------------Xhaka/Cock
Ox/Wally------------------------------------Sanchez
--------------Ozil------------Ramsay/Caz

-------------------Perez-----Ear-Cupper

Although this would require some actual defensive discipline - which would never exist in a Wenger team - and would stop Wally from 'expressing himself' :roll: . Also think we'd miss Cock - although if recent Twitter pics are anything to go by, The Ox has that covered :wink: Either way, it can't be any worse than the dogshite served up so far this season.

Where has the left back gone?[/quote]

Chirrrrpyyy Chirrrppyyyy Cheeeep! Cheeep! :barscarf:

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postmanPat91 wrote:A bit surprised Wenger has never toyed with a 3-5-2 to be honest. He doesn't give a fuck about our fullbacks bombing forward anyway so play 3 at the back, pack the midfield with tippy-tappers galore, and Lucas 'Raúl' Perez up top with the ear-cupper. Simples :barscarf:
The only things wenger has ever toyed with is the broken cat flap of a back crack of some frog DJ (allegedly) and the zip of his feckin' coat (FACT)

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
Clash wrote:http://www.onlinegooner.com/article.php
No other club faced with our financial restraints had performed as well as AW. Always in the top four, sometimes even challenging for honours. So Arsene should be judged not from 2005 but from 2013
Anyone read the fucking drivel on the main site from that bore Graham Perry on his latest Arsenal Circular ? :banghead:
And here's a link to the correct article! :lol: :wink: The link above is to someone having a pop at Arsenal in 2005. :shock:

http://www.onlinegooner.com/article.php ... ve&id=3512
Oh and yes it is absolute fucking drivel. :oops: I cannot believe I support the same club as some of these people. :|
It is indeed absolute drivel - full of "What Ifs" and twisting of the facts.

I've written an article for the main website and sent it to Gooner Ed yesterday, should be on the site tomorrow. I've tried to put forward as many reasons as possible why I want Wenger gone and I've tried to dismantle the rubbish written by Graham Perry.

What cracks me up is that AKBs go out of their way to defend Wenger at all costs. They always refer to the fact that "He built this Club" :roll: but then offer excuse after excuse as to why we couldn't win a bloody raffle. They are blissfully ignorant to the fact that - if he built modern Arsenal and he is the genius they say he is, why does he keep on fucking up?? He's either very unlucky or shit . . . . . .


He's replied to your above article today ,arguing back against what you submitted

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Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:
I remember you saying you were going to write something ... but then I thought Mark Halfpenny had beaten you to it :D Just realised you are one and the same so belated congratulations on a superb article mate, it was one of the best I've read.

I have no words for the drivel that G Perry comes out with. That fact that the Gooner regularly publishes it on their website it defies belief.

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:

It's still the akb standard line

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Clash wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:
I remember you saying you were going to write something ... but then I thought Mark Halfpenny had beaten you to it :D Just realised you are one and the same so belated congratulations on a superb article mate, it was one of the best I've read.

I have no words for the drivel that G Perry comes out with. That fact that the Gooner regularly publishes it on their website it defies belief.


In fairness they do allow different opinions,whether we agree or not.

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:

It's still the akb standard line
Perry is a fucking moron unfortunately. He just re-rolled the standard sheep AKB comments but with an added patronising tone. :roll: And then totally discredited himself and his view by denying Song was rubbish. That's the view of someone that doesn't really understand football, the view of a tourist that reads stats that tell him Denilson was a great passer of the ball (based on 90% pass completion rate of 5-yard nothing passes) or sees one successful Hollywood tackle by Song and thinks "that's a great player" but ignores the hundreds of examples of that player failing repeatedly.

He's a disingenuous little fucker too. He states "we sold our best to fund the stadium – Toure, Clichy, Nasri, Fabregas, Adebayor, RVP. We had to make ends meet." Absolute horsehit. :roll: Firstly, Clichy, Nasri, Fabregas and RVJC all demanded moves away - we did not need to sell any of them. Secondly, we got proper fuck all cash in for them (compared to what we should have gotten if Wenger wasn't so shit in the transfer market so how did that help "fund the stadium") and even their departure didn't make a dent in the wage bill as we were paying the shit players we retained, and the ones Wenger then brought in as replacements, wages on a par with what any of those that left were getting paid! :roll:

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mcdowell42 wrote:
Clash wrote:
Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:Thanks for the heads up mate. I'll have a look at that now. :lol:
I remember you saying you were going to write something ... but then I thought Mark Halfpenny had beaten you to it :D Just realised you are one and the same so belated congratulations on a superb article mate, it was one of the best I've read.

I have no words for the drivel that G Perry comes out with. That fact that the Gooner regularly publishes it on their website it defies belief.


In fairness they do allow different opinions,whether we agree or not.
That is fair enough mate, I am not insisting on reading only stuff I agree with. However, in the case of Graham Perry it is not just an occasional article ... he has had 154 of them published.

And as DB10 says, he is both patronising and disingenuous. He puts his thoughts out on a public website and then when it is criticised (or ripped apart like Mark Halfpenny / JFG did) he plays the victim and acts as though he is being personally attacked. I cannot stand it when people do that.

His articles consistently get marked down (the latest one currently stands at 2.2 out of 10). It just baffles me how The Gooner can justify regularly printing his stuff when its of such a poor standard. Personally I think it reflects badly on the site.

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I've just read the response to your article and the comments underneath it and I'm amazed at how many people think that being financially solvent is some sort of success.

Maybe I have it wrong. Maybe when I'm old, knackered and pissing myself in a retirement home I won't be reminiscing about titles and days out at Wembley...I shall be casting my mind back to these thrilling times, of having a healthy bank balance. So cheer up you miserable gits...these are heady times indeed and we are lucky to be able to witness it. It's a great time to be alive :barscarf:

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As we're experiencing the same seasons over and over, this will not be an original though .... but something struck me this week.

When it comes to discussing the seasons potential CL winners, Arsenal never get a mention.

Why not?

We all know why of course .... but what I mean is why is a club with our set-up and massive resources not seen as being among the few teams who can win the competition.

In contrast, why are At. Madrid seen as potential winners when they have far less resources?

Quite clearly it is because of the respective managers.

Wenger is paid £8.5m. A manager should only be paid a salary like that if he can produce a team that punches above its weight. However In Wenger's case, he does the opposite. And its not just Wenger as he is now, he has NEVER produce a team that could punched above its weight.

I know I am stating the obvious and its all be said before but it just hit me how startlingly obvious it should be to EVERYONE in football what a massive hindrance Wenger is.

Wenger and Wenger alone is the reason we do not have a realistic chance to win the PL or CL.

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Clash wrote:As we're experiencing the same seasons over and over, this will not be an original though .... but something struck me this week.

When it comes to discussing the seasons potential CL winners, Arsenal never get a mention.

Why not?

We all know why of course .... but what I mean is why is a club with our set-up and massive resources not seen as being among the few teams who can win the competition.

In contrast, why are At. Madrid seen as potential winners when they have far less resources?

Quite clearly it is because of the respective managers.

Wenger is paid £8.5m. A manager should only be paid a salary like that if he can produce a team that punches above its weight. However In Wenger's case, he does the opposite. And its not just Wenger as he is now, he has NEVER produce a team that could punched above its weight.

I know I am stating the obvious and its all be said before but it just hit me how startlingly obvious it should be to EVERYONE in football what a massive hindrance Wenger is.

Wenger and Wenger alone is the reason we do not have a realistic chance to win the PL or CL.

Is it any wonder the way he set the team up for PSG....fuck me that first half was a joke...should have been 4-0 down and out of it

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Not sure what thread to put this in so I have decided to post it on a couple of them and people will respond or ignore as they see fit -

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/premier- ... li=AAdf4rm


Kinda smacks like a guy who isn't happy with the club and wants to keep his options open and I for one don't blame him 8)

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augie wrote:Not sure what thread to put this in so I have decided to post it on a couple of them and people will respond or ignore as they see fit -

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/premier- ... li=AAdf4rm


Kinda smacks like a guy who isn't happy with the club and wants to keep his options open and I for one don't blame him 8)
I was shocked when he was played as a CF against PSG. Sanchez is never going to be a CF he is a left winger. He is a world class left winger and Wenger will fail if he continues to play him out of position. He is too short for a CF. Anyway hope he signs a new contract asap but having a release clause is not good for the club.

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supergeorgegraham wrote:
augie wrote:Not sure what thread to put this in so I have decided to post it on a couple of them and people will respond or ignore as they see fit -

http://www.msn.com/en-ie/sport/premier- ... li=AAdf4rm


Kinda smacks like a guy who isn't happy with the club and wants to keep his options open and I for one don't blame him 8)
I was shocked when he was played as a CF against PSG. Sanchez is never going to be a CF he is a left winger. He is a world class left winger and Wenger will fail if he continues to play him out of position. He is too short for a CF. Anyway hope he signs a new contract asap but having a release clause is not good for the club.


Nothing about this crunt (wenker) would shock me and you should know better :lol:

Personally I don't think that he is a world class winger - he could be a world class striker if played up front in a 4-4-2, but he lacks the first touch and crossing ability of a world class winger

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