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i give up. you're just trying to find someone to blame and some reason for it. if we make the signings, it's not good 'cause it was for free, no matter how good the player is. everyone here complained about our lack of ambition for not signing the mighty chamakh in january and now that he came on free "it's just a striker that came on a free". if joe cole, one of the best english wingers out there comes, it's not good 'cause it was on a free.

i understand you're all disappointed and bitter, but it just does not make sense. as long as we do sign players in the necessary positions, which we will, i don't see a reason for considering cole and chamakh not very good deals.

Agreed Brazil.

Who says we are doing that Irish? It could be Wenger has seen two players who can add quality, but not hit his transfer budget which he can use to sign the players we need IN those areas. I don't get the complaints. Certainly if we only signed these two then it would be stupid, but I doubt that is going to happen.

But in the Chamakh case, wouldn't you have preferred that we'd dished out the £10m back in January and mounted a legitimate title challenge?

If Wenger brings in players on FREE's that he would have paid money for then that's great management. Equally though, if he just has a policy of only getting players because they are FREE..... ?????

As for Cole? He won't sign a contract with Chelsea because they won't meet his wage demands.... And some people think he is coming to Arsenal ! You think we'll meet wage demands that....er, Chelsea....won't????

brazilianGOONER wrote:i give up. you're just trying to find someone to blame and some reason for it. if we make the signings, it's not good 'cause it was for free, no matter how good the player is. everyone here complained about our lack of ambition for not signing the mighty chamakh in january and now that he came on free "it's just a striker that came on a free". if joe cole, one of the best english wingers out there comes, it's not good 'cause it was on a free.

i understand you're all disappointed and bitter, but it just does not make sense. as long as we do sign players in the necessary positions, which we will, i don't see a reason for considering cole and chamakh not very good deals.

I havent said Cole would be a bad deal but mixing free transfers in with a few signings would be the best scenario. If we waited for Chamakh to become free rather than signing him in Jan. and therefore gave ourselves less chance of winning the league last year that cant be a good decision in anyones book

Bring Back Pires wrote:But in the Chamakh case, wouldn't you have preferred that we'd dished out the £10m back in January and mounted a legitimate title challenge?

Exactly.

This is what has been said numerous times over the last page of this thread and yet continued to be ignored.

If Chamakh is as good as the rose tinters would have us believe the he would have been alot more useful last season when our only quality striker was missing most of the season.

But no it is better to throw another season down the pan at the expense of 1-2 signings.

Irish Gooner wrote:

Bring Back Pires wrote:But in the Chamakh case, wouldn't you have preferred that we'd dished out the £10m back in January and mounted a legitimate title challenge?

Exactly.

This is what has been said numerous times over the last page of this thread and yet continued to be ignored.

If Chamakh is as good as the rose tinters would have us believe the he would have been alot more useful last season when our only quality striker was missing most of the season.

But no it is better to throw another season down the pan at the expense of 1-2 signings.

Most fans wanted a striker in January when RvP was injured and Bendtner was coming back from injury.

I would rather have taken Huntelaar on a six month loan though, than pay up to £10M for Chamakh then.
I would have taken Jay Simpson back from his QPR loan in January, at least he was in scoring form.

But in the Chamakh case, wouldn't you have preferred that we'd dished out the £10m back in January and mounted a legitimate title challenge

Yes I would, but he wasn't. Plus he made it clear that he wanted to stay with them till the end of his contract. Doesn't mean I don't want him now, or that he's any less of a player.

flash gunner wrote:

ramon wrote:no risk - FREE transfer

Huge wages for an injury prone player..... Some risk!!!

One ACL injury doesn't make him injury prone, mate... (Remember having this conversation before)

flash gunner wrote: I havent said Cole would be a bad deal but mixing free transfers in with a few signings would be the best scenario.

of course it is, mate. so let's wait for the transfer window to end before complaining that we are only signing players on a free, that's where i don't get IG! it (transfer window) has only begun, wenger already stated that we were weak in defense last season and that he WILL buy in that department!

it's like we have a NLD next week, let's wait ffs. he will buy at least one proper defender.

Problem is Brazilian, exactly the same sort of stuff was being said last summer by some more optimistic gooners and what did we end up with?!!! And before you say TV, we'd already got him early but most of us said we needed more, and as it transpired, we did.

We have until September to sign players, lets wait and see. Thats a realist

MK Gould wrote:If Wenger brings in players on FREE's that he would have paid money for then that's great management. Equally though, if he just has a policy of only getting players because they are FREE..... ?????

As for Cole? He won't sign a contract with Chelsea because they won't meet his wage demands.... And some people think he is coming to Arsenal ! You think we'll meet wage demands that....er, Chelsea....won't????

We got Sol for a free and paid him £100k a week back in 2001.We can pay J Cole as much as he wants cause we will get £40m from Barca

I Hate Hleb wrote:Problem is Brazilian, exactly the same sort of stuff was being said last summer by some more optimistic gooners and what did we end up with?!!! And before you say TV, we'd already got him early but most of us said we needed more, and as it transpired, we did.

well, i didn't think we needed more than one central defender last season, hlebby. in fact the only issue i had was the fact that vermaelen was too unproven, and see what came of that. of course, i didn't expect djourou to play 15 minutes of football in the last game of the season too.

i am 100% sure that we will indeed sign a new defender for next season, as wenger will not risk having only the djourou/vermaelen as first choice, and i even think that we may sign two if sol leaves the club. we will have 4 good central defenders (not counting sol or the youngsters like nordtveit and bartley) for next season, that is 100% sure.

And that was also said last summer, rigsby!! And we got the great Silvestre!!:banghead:

Wenger himself claimed he wanted transfer signings wrapped up before the World Cup begins. Well, the clock is ticking rapidly and he better live up to his promise, even more so if the club - foolishly in my opinion - let Cesc leave.