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olgitgooner wrote:
ThomasMitchell wrote:
the playing mantis wrote:thomas mitchell agre 100%...its the same with the stop and search issue. young blacks feel discriminated against, well whose reponsible for the majority of gun and knife crime????

its like airport searching little old ladies, and the police not to focus on particular ethnic groups....its madness, however i think this guideline may have been dropped now, im sure mm99 can confirm.

in the 80's when the ira were blowing the shit out of london did the liberal media care that irish people were being targeted for searches by the met????
Totally correct. If there was proper profiling at airport security check points, the process would be far less onerous. But instead, so as not to offend certain groups, everyone gets the same treatment (even in the USA, where PC attitudes are even more prevalent than here). Fact is that those people responsible for 9/11 had certain things in common i.e. regionality, religion and skin colour. Just like when the IRA were planting bombs in Northern Ireland, it would have been ridiculous to focus security checks on men from the middle east. Of course there are exceptions to the rule but in most cases there are common threads.

The fact is that gun crime in London is committed hugely disproportionately by one sector of society - young black men. The same is true of gang rape. There was a program on C4 not long ago (presented by a black man) that showed that the vast majority of gang rapes in the UK are committed by young black youths. But let’s not talk about it and try to come up with answers. Let’s bury our head in the sand and hope it goes away. That way we can be non-offensive to anyone, when in reality all we are doing is failing future generations of these young men.
Absolutely correct. Any reference to racial groupings is deemed to be racist in this PC ruled country of ours. It's bollocks. And unfair.

In North London, the majority of violent street crime is perpetrated by Somalian youths. They are here because they have "human rights" and may be in danger in their native country. Well, yes, everyone in Somalia is in danger. My belief is that most of them are here to engage in criminal activity. In a soft environment.

I will be called a racist for giving this opinion. Fuck it. I speak as I find.
oolgit is 100% correct. I do not live in London so i cannot comment as to the racial problems there, but I do live in a city with (i assume) a MUCH higher crime rate, especially murder rate. The vast majority or the crime is committed by black Americans. It is not racist to state facts. Black people, all over the world, commit more gun crimes than those of other racial descents. The majority of black people in your country are Caribbean, the majority here are not. It doesnt matter.

Please do not try and say it is because of poor living conditions because there are plenty of white and latin people living in the SAME living conditions, all very poor, and NOT murdering people at extremely high numbers. There is an average of OVER 1 MURDER per-day here, just in the city limits. Go just outside the city to the suburbs and that would go even higher.

Again, it is NOT racist to state facts.

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Yankee_Gooner_Dandee wrote:
oolgit is 100% correct. I do not live in London so i cannot comment as to the racial problems there, but I do live in a city with (i assume) a MUCH higher crime rate, especially murder rate. The vast majority or the crime is committed by black Americans. It is not racist to state facts. Black people, all over the world, commit more gun crimes than those of other racial descents. The majority of black people in your country are Caribbean, the majority here are not. It doesnt matter.

Please do not try and say it is because of poor living conditions because there are plenty of white and latin people living in the SAME living conditions, all very poor, and NOT murdering people at extremely high numbers. There is an average of OVER 1 MURDER per-day here, just in the city limits. Go just outside the city to the suburbs and that would go even higher.

Again, it is NOT racist to state facts.
It all comes down to culture and parenting in my opinion.

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ThomasMitchell wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:It's all people involved, not just Black youths.

In an area like Tottenham there are many Black kids so of course they will make up many of the looters if the looters population reflects the local population.

But this is happening in many areas of London and it is all races getting involved.
Oh please spare me. Do you have a television? Can you see the people?You are not a better person than the rest of us because you are prepared to turn a blind eye to the truth, all in the name of being 'right on'.
No. I just do not have a racial bigotry like you do.

What the hell do you know about me and being "Right On".
But I know that you want to put negative images of Black People on the Forum.

There are many crimes that White people do more than Black people.

And no one is sweeping the issue of gang rape under the carpet. It is well known that gangs are using it and people are trying to deal with it.

And everyone knows that Black on Black violence is responsible for a lot of gun crime in London.
But there are plenty of white villains too. Starting with the policiticans.

As for the anarchists involvement? The leaflet Skipper posted.

Yankee - Do you not think the continuing impact of slavery has affected Black communities in America?
Generations of fmailies truned against each other, traditional gender role messed up and then the swamping of Balck areas with ard drugs since the late 1960's?

Cointelpro and FBI efforts to destabilise Black Panthers can answer for a lot of things until this day.
As can the high draft levels of Black Americans in Vietnam.

Olgit

Somalians are causing trouble in North London. Seen it with my own eyes.
But many new immigrant groups turn criminal in the first generation after arriving, we shall see how they have knuckled down, or not, in 25 years.
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I'm lost for words......

Briggs from Fulham

@briggsao These fools have burnt down my fav nandos in colliers wood kmt #fumin

The fucking buffooon... If there were no nandos in the first place this would NOT happen!! :lol: :lol: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Carnival in a couple of weeks. Are we allowed to carry weapons?

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Captain Fabregas wrote:Police order all london football clubs to call off matches
I just checked BBC. West Ham and Charlton matches are off.

Yet one more reason to hate the twats who are creating havoc just for fun (it has fuck all to do with the guy who was shot) they are total, utter scum.

BTW all our insurance premiums will be going up as a direct result of this shit.

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Too many people think the world owes them a living. Get off your arse and stop blaming society for you being a lazy prick with no respect for anyone else :banghead:

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What a load of absolute *word censored*...

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QuartzGooner wrote:
ThomasMitchell wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:It's all people involved, not just Black youths.

In an area like Tottenham there are many Black kids so of course they will make up many of the looters if the looters population reflects the local population.

But this is happening in many areas of London and it is all races getting involved.
Oh please spare me. Do you have a television? Can you see the people?You are not a better person than the rest of us because you are prepared to turn a blind eye to the truth, all in the name of being 'right on'.
No. I just do not have a racial bigotry like you do.

What the hell do you know about me and being "Right On".
But I know that you want to put negative images of Black People on the Forum.

There are many crimes that White people do more than Black people.

And no one is sweeping the issue of gang rape under the carpet. It is well known that gangs are using it and people are trying to deal with it.

And everyone knows that Black on Black violence is responsible for a lot of gun crime in London.
But there are plenty of white villains too. Starting with the policiticans.

As for the anarchists involvement? The leaflet Skipper posted.

Yankee - Do you not think the continuing impact of slavery has affected Black communities in America?
Generations of fmailies truned against each other, traditional gender role messed up and then the swamping of Balck areas with ard drugs since the late 1960's?

Cointelpro and FBI efforts to destabilise Black Panthers can answer for a lot of things until this day.
As can the high draft levels of Black Americans in Vietnam.

Olgit

Somalians are causing trouble in North London. Seen it with my own eyes.
But many new immigrant groups turn criminal in the first generation after arriving, we shall see how they have knuckled down, or not, in 25 years.
“What the hell do I know about you being ‘right onâ€

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Thomas Mitchell

You brought up race.
You started talking about Black Crime etc.


So me responding to that is playing a "Race Card"????

You will have to do better than that if you want to discuss with me.
But you do not really do you?

You just want to spread your bias, and try and insult me, because I stand up to your aims.

Yeah, you come across as a white racist. Based on your posts. Definitely.


You see some footage of riots on TV and instantly twist it to a platform for your racial bias.

Big looting tonight in Romford, Woolwich and Charlton.

Not known for their strong Black communities are they?

And do not try that boring tactic so beloved of message boards, or putting words in my mouth. Trying to claim my views of 9/11. I have not mentioned that subject.
It will not wash on here.

Oh but you have been found out already by me and Irish Gooner.
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Getting beyond a fucking joke now. Riots mean that our opening game of the season (in fact every opening game of the season) will likely be called off as police will be needed elsewhere. Might sound pathetic, but when these little *word censored* start fucking with the football season I get seriously fucking pissed off.

Step fucking one: get the army in. Any little pricks, and I can't even be fucked with the race debate- white, black, Asian, couldnt give a fuck- any little pricks start trouble, fucking smack the shit out of them. This isn't some sort of demonstration, its little *word censored* being little *word censored* because they think they can get away with it. Send the army in with some fucking tear gas and some water cannons and tell the little wankers that if they dont fuck off it'll be fucking bullets next

Step fucking two: impose a curfew in all major areas of, say, ten o'clock for anyone not going to work- any little scratters out after this time get the shit kicked out of them

Step fucking three: people should realise that the police arent managing to cope and they should do what the turkish lads are doing and should get on the street to protect their communities. Trust me, if some little *word censored* is robbing a shop down your street, the police will not care if you throw him back out of the nearest window face first, they wont be arresting you for battering the fuck out of these little *word censored*.

We have an ever increasing underclass that wants the world handed to it on a plate, that wants fucking benefits for this, benefits for that, spread yer fucking legs and get fucking more benefits for that, come to the country on a boat and say you've got human rights and cant be shoved back into the fucking ocean, be born and brought up here and say you have human rights and cant be forced to work, fuck the fucking lot of these utterly useless, illiterate fucking wankers. In fact, fuck it, any *word censored* who writes more than 2 comments on youtube videos per day for any one week period is getting fucking sterilised, or shot, i couldnt care which. Any *word censored* who poses for a picture looking "gangsta" is getting battered to death with a metal pole. Any slacker who has been on unemployment benefit for over a year and who blatantly isnt even trying to get a job gets nothing, fuck all, go on the streets and fucking starve you useless parasite. Its about time the "normal" people stood up to these fucking little wasters, said to fuck with human rights and "oh its probably down to the lack of a father figure" and kicked these arrogant, cocky little *word censored* into shape.

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Fucking top post Ewan that's what a fucking bloated benefit system does, creates an underclass like this with all the attendant problems.

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It's beyond a joke now. I can either pay more tax, to the US, or less, to the UK, as I have dual citizenship.

No way am I paying for some *word censored* to watch daytime TV all day with six children all by different blokes, or some wanker who ain't worked in his life getting pissed everyday, I'd happily pay more so I know my money's actually going somewhere.

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Has spread to Manchester and Liverpool.

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safcftm wrote:Getting beyond a fucking joke now. Riots mean that our opening game of the season (in fact every opening game of the season) will likely be called off as police will be needed elsewhere. Might sound pathetic, but when these little c**ts start fucking with the football season I get seriously fucking pissed off.

Step fucking one: get the army in. Any little pricks, and I can't even be fucked with the race debate- white, black, Asian, couldnt give a fuck- any little pricks start trouble, fucking smack the shit out of them. This isn't some sort of demonstration, its little c**ts being little c**ts because they think they can get away with it. Send the army in with some fucking tear gas and some water cannons and tell the little wankers that if they dont fuck off it'll be fucking bullets next

Step fucking two: impose a curfew in all major areas of, say, ten o'clock for anyone not going to work- any little scratters out after this time get the shit kicked out of them

Step fucking three: people should realise that the police arent managing to cope and they should do what the turkish lads are doing and should get on the street to protect their communities. Trust me, if some little c**t is robbing a shop down your street, the police will not care if you throw him back out of the nearest window face first, they wont be arresting you for battering the fuck out of these little c**ts.

We have an ever increasing underclass that wants the world handed to it on a plate, that wants fucking benefits for this, benefits for that, spread yer fucking legs and get fucking more benefits for that, come to the country on a boat and say you've got human rights and cant be shoved back into the fucking ocean, be born and brought up here and say you have human rights and cant be forced to work, fuck the fucking lot of these utterly useless, illiterate fucking wankers. In fact, fuck it, any c**t who writes more than 2 comments on youtube videos per day for any one week period is getting fucking sterilised, or shot, i couldnt care which. Any c**t who poses for a picture looking "gangsta" is getting battered to death with a metal pole. Any slacker who has been on unemployment benefit for over a year and who blatantly isnt even trying to get a job gets nothing, fuck all, go on the streets and fucking starve you useless parasite. Its about time the "normal" people stood up to these fucking little wasters, said to fuck with human rights and "oh its probably down to the lack of a father figure" and kicked these arrogant, cocky little c**ts into shape.

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