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frankbutcher wrote:I also agree about this mythical view of Ireland's support. For some reason the Irish are viewed world-wide as some sort of utopian race. Why? Where does this come from? My experience of the Irish is that they are are largely feckless, arrogant, un-trustworthy cretins. There are clearly some nice guys out there, but they are the most arrogant race I've ever come across. As for their "harmless, couldn't hurt a fly reputation". They are a bunch of loud mouths always at the centre of attention. The UK has about as much in common with the Irish as we do with Papua New Guinea. To the Irish I have a question. If you're so great and Ireland is such a great place, why don't you fuck off back there? Sell all your Irish Pubs around the world, give up your council flat in Liverpool, your caravan in Essex and your apartment in Boston, Massachusetts and fuck off back to the Blarney Stone. No?????? Why not?????? Yeah, because Ireland is fucked financially and you'd rather ponce off the rest of the World.
I suppose the reason why we havent "fcuked back to Ireland" is that we have taken our lead from our near neighbours (england) who have spent centuries trying to take over countries all over the world where no c**t wants them but the difference is that we are trying to lull these people into a false sense of security through our socialising as opposed to outright combat and confrontation My compatriots wont be happy at me giving you the heads up on this but we feel that world domination is now within our grasp
frankbutcher wrote:I also agree about this mythical view of Ireland's support. For some reason the Irish are viewed world-wide as some sort of utopian race. Why? Where does this come from? My experience of the Irish is that they are are largely feckless, arrogant, un-trustworthy cretins. There are clearly some nice guys out there, but they are the most arrogant race I've ever come across. As for their "harmless, couldn't hurt a fly reputation". They are a bunch of loud mouths always at the centre of attention. The UK has about as much in common with the Irish as we do with Papua New Guinea. To the Irish I have a question. If you're so great and Ireland is such a great place, why don't you fuck off back there? Sell all your Irish Pubs around the world, give up your council flat in Liverpool, your caravan in Essex and your apartment in Boston, Massachusetts and fuck off back to the Blarney Stone. No?????? Why not?????? Yeah, because Ireland is fucked financially and you'd rather ponce off the rest of the World.
ah well , better then been hated by the whole world isnt it, at least the irish wont go around and wreck any towns when a game is lost unlike a certain nation which still thinks it rules the world.
frankbutcher wrote:England has given many things to the World. What has Ireland given to the World? Serious question.
england has also raped and robbed the world and killed millions but i dont see you writing about that but why let truth get in the way because your annoyed because the irish are able to enjoy themselves at games ,you take things far too serious frank , maybe you need a bit of celtic love, anyway im out of here
frankbutcher wrote:England has given many things to the World. What has Ireland given to the World? Serious question.
england has also raped and robbed the world and killed millions but i dont see you writing about that but why let truth get in the way because your annoyed because the irish are able to enjoy themselves at games ,you take things far too serious frank , maybe you need a bit of celtic love, anyway im out of here
allez france
Just put an un-baited hook out on a line and you lot will bite on it. England has made a lot of mistakes. But that wasn't what this debate was about. It's about where the Irish get this false rep from. The Irish are nothing but a drain on England. And some of your mad fuckers decided to bomb and harass a generation. I don't want our national TV stations pandering to your lot. The Irish are nothing to me. Saying that I don't hate the Irish, as you obviously do the English. You're the biggest hypocrites in the World. Most of the Irish population of the World doesn't live in Ireland. It's funny how actions speak louder than words.
i dont know one irish person that hates the english frank, not one crazy yeah, and if you want a history lesson on murdering people i can pm you the 800 year history of the english in ireland, interested ?
and when you talk about the irish that live abroad makes me forget just how many english also live abroad or maybe in your mind its all still rule britania and the brits abroad are still the landlords and ruling the countries they live in. did you ever wonder just why the english are hated by every country in the world or maybe you just dont like to look beyond the border, no surrender little englander ,
i guess the edl were recruiting in your area tonight to get you so patriotic and worked up, god save the queen and all that old chap. 21st century frank get over it
REB wrote:i dont know one irish person that hates the english frank, not one crazy yeah, and if you want a history lesson on murdering people i can pm you the 800 year history of the english in ireland, interested ?
and when you talk about the irish that live abroad makes me forget just how many english also live abroad or maybe in your mind its all still rule britania and the brits abroad are still the landlords and ruling the countries they live in. did you ever wonder just why the english are hated by every country in the world or maybe you just dont like to look beyond the border, no surrender little englander ,
i guess the edl were recruiting in your area tonight to get you so patriotic and worked up, god save the queen and all that old chap. 21st century frank get over it
You keep putting words in my mouth. The sterotypes and bigotry in your own posts is laughable. Why would I think we rule the world? Am I supposed to be 200 years old and formerly a soldier in England's Imperialistic Army? Your claims are akin to Spurs saying Arsenal should fuck off back to Woolwich.. Present day Britian is the most diversified country in Europe. London, where I live is about as diverse as it gets. But still the English are battered with a stick that became irrelvant a hundred years ago. Meanwhile, the Irish have a rep as an all-singing all-giving nation that the English are best pals with. Why? Where did this come from? It's a self-perpetuating fallacy. And yet in every argument you get into, the answer is to blame someone else... the English. You sound like a Scouser mate. Saying that, most Scousers are Irish descendants. Therefore perhaps all these minutes silences and self pitying is an Irish trait. Sounds logical to me.
frankbutcher wrote:England has given many things to the World. What has Ireland given to the World? Serious question.
Irish bars. And a great sense of humour.
(I was going to say Guiness. But that's an English beer, invented in London's Spittlefield Market, and nicked by Arthur. )
Also rain. And green grass. And the Irish Sea. And a fair few Arsenal players. And anyone with an O' in their name. And potatoes. And tarmac. And canals. And....most importantly....a home for the Celts.
Oh. Nearly forgot.....historically, some of the finest soldiers in the world.
Frank, I'm English myself, but would you like to list the "many things" we have given to the world which didn't involve the Irish, Welsh or Scottish?
REB wrote:i dont know one irish person that hates the english frank, not one crazy yeah, and if you want a history lesson on murdering people i can pm you the 800 year history of the english in ireland, interested ?
and when you talk about the irish that live abroad makes me forget just how many english also live abroad or maybe in your mind its all still rule britania and the brits abroad are still the landlords and ruling the countries they live in. did you ever wonder just why the english are hated by every country in the world or maybe you just dont like to look beyond the border, no surrender little englander ,
i guess the edl were recruiting in your area tonight to get you so patriotic and worked up, god save the queen and all that old chap. 21st century frank get over it
They're not. Those countries that do hate the English have probably been ruled by them at some time and therefore hold a grudge but plenty other places couldnt really care one way or the other about the English. TBH a lot of americans like the English (and the scots and irish to be fair) and a lot of Asian people like the English so thats a canny percentage of the worlds population who think we're fine. Most south americans (argentinians aside) arent arsed one way or the other about us, a lot of africans dont mind us nowadays since we're always sending them shit loads of aid etc. Places that have been ruled by the british tend to hate england for it (the scots and welsh and that seem to be forgiven like), places like argentina that we've beaten in wars don't like us but there we go, thats just the price you have to pay to help get your country to a relatively affluent state like we're in now (despite the current economic problems)
frankbutcher wrote:England has given many things to the World. What has Ireland given to the World? Serious question.
Irish bars. And a great sense of humour.
(I was going to say Guiness. But that's an English beer, invented in London's Spittlefield Market, and nicked by Arthur. )
Also rain. And green grass. And the Irish Sea. And a fair few Arsenal players. And anyone with an O' in their name. And potatoes. And tarmac. And canals. And....most importantly....a home for the Celts.
Oh. Nearly forgot.....historically, some of the finest soldiers in the world.
Frank, I'm English myself, but would you like to list the "many things" we have given to the world which didn't involve the Irish, Welsh or Scottish?
I'll tell you what is effing me off is the fact that the Irish are lauded as some sort of utopian race without any evidence to suggest it. Yet we English persistently are battered by a Left-wing stick which encourages us to be embarrassed by our nationalism. Look at the pratts on this very thread giving us shit for things that happened centuries ago. If you put up a St Georges flag you're a racist. Fuck off. I find that the ultimate insult. I won't apologise for things that happened centuries ago. The relevant stuff is the present day. The same with British football fans. We have a blemish-free record in Europe for nigh on 20 years. The Irish have got nothing to point to as their own Clubs are never in Europe. The national team have their fair share of trouble-makers of which I have first-hand experience. So don't preach to me about nationalism. Don't tell me anything about the English national psyche. I'm not fucking interested in your views. They're irrelevant. That includes our national broadcasters cheer-leading your national team and supporters, and yet doing down our own hopes and our own supporters. The Left wing are shysters and I ain't having it.
augie wrote:Had enough of the gloom and despair at the future and where we are going so have decided to focus my attention elsewhere at least for a little while and in the abscence of a thread on the euro's I thought that I would start one (if started elsewhere then please deleted mods).
Anyway please post your predictions :
Group A Winners : Russia
Group B Winners : Germany
Group C Winners : Spain
Group D Winners : England
Winners : England
Runners Up :Germany
Top Scorer : Gomez, Rooney
People seem to forget that Roy knows how to set up a defence, the back 5 have all won major honours this season. There's no expectation, no hulabaloo and we have the right player as captain.
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They are a bunch of loud mouths always at the centre of attention. The UK has about as much in common with the Irish as we do with Papua New Guinea. To the Irish I have a question. If you're so great and Ireland is such a great place, why don't you fuck off back there? Sell all your Irish Pubs around the world, give up your council flat in Liverpool, your caravan in Essex and your apartment in Boston, Massachusetts and fuck off back to the Blarney Stone. No?????? Why not?????? Yeah, because Ireland is fucked financially and you'd rather ponce off the rest of the World.
My compatriots wont be happy at me giving you the heads up on this but we feel that world domination is now within our grasp 
Present day Britian is the most diversified country in Europe. London, where I live is about as diverse as it gets. But still the English are battered with a stick that became irrelvant a hundred years ago. Meanwhile, the Irish have a rep as an all-singing all-giving nation that the English are best pals with. Why? Where did this come from? It's a self-perpetuating fallacy. And yet in every argument you get into, the answer is to blame someone else... the English. You sound like a Scouser mate. Saying that, most Scousers are Irish descendants. Therefore perhaps all these minutes silences and self pitying is an Irish trait. Sounds logical to me. 
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