As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
swimmer1 wrote:I'm no AKB but for god sake who in there right minds wants RVP to go or think he should go ?
I dont want him to go but I absolutely think that he should go
I am making that statement on the basis that whatever rvp decides will not be determined by money/greed. Simple fact is that as things stand right now we are a club who are at best standing still but realistically are going backwards We have first team starters now who are so poor/average that they wouldnt have got near the subs bench a few years ago and in a league with the worst standard for over a decade we are only good enough to finish 19 points behind the top 2
Contrast that to the successes that ex team-mates of rvp are currently enjoying (cashley,clichy,nasri,cesc) and it isnt hard to understand why rvp MIGHT be feeling envious. This is his last big contract and he knows that so we couldnt blame the man if he feels that his best chance of success lies elsewhere
swimmer1 wrote:I'm no AKB but for god sake who in there right minds wants RVP to go or think he should go ?
Probably the same window lickers that wanted Chelsea to win the champions league at the weekend
No, Rodders you misunderstand. They are 100% English and its exactly the same cheering for Russian owned Chavski as it is cheering for the English national team.
A dallying Gus Caesar wrote:Who really cares whether he stays or goes? It won't make any difference between winning and losing a title or cup, as we are going nowhere, we are not competitive and we are a million miles from winning anything we crave, so why worry whether he signs on, it is an irrelevance.
We are a great club....but we have no ambition, we will not bring in the five winners we need and we will still have crap like Gervinho and the rubbish we sent on loan playing for us next season.
If RVP wants to play for a serious club he should go. He should not even consider wasting the rest of his career at loserville.
This should be the wording under the crest on the new shirt.
Of course he hasn't. Twitter is evil incarnate for rumours. Gorbachev is dead by the way. And just because the bloke denies it doesn't mean it isn't true.
Some part of me thinks that Robin is trying to get the board to spend big on a player as part of a deal to stay. I don't think he's asking for just x amount of money.
N1Goon wrote:Some part of me thinks that Robin is trying to get the board to spend big on a player as part of a deal to stay. I don't think he's asking for just x amount of money.
If there is truth in that, then I take my hat off to him. At least it would prove once and for all that its about glory and not trophies. I said a while back that I don't believe it will come down to the difference between 130k per week to stay, and say 200k elsewhere. The guy is not daft enough to realise that his strike partners - the Camel and SQP - were so substandard they were hardly deemed worthy of 20 minutes from the bench, nor would he fail to recognise the defensive frailties that continue to cost us lots of silly points
I hope he has said words to the effect of "you've got till the end of July to convince me"
Of course we're all speculating but it would be a logical thing for him to do
N1Goon wrote:Some part of me thinks that Robin is trying to get the board to spend big on a player as part of a deal to stay. I don't think he's asking for just x amount of money.
If there is truth in that, then I take my hat off to him. At least it would prove once and for all that its about glory and not trophies. I said a while back that I don't believe it will come down to the difference between 130k per week to stay, and say 200k elsewhere. The guy is not daft enough to realise that his strike partners - the Camel and SQP - were so substandard they were hardly deemed worthy of 20 minutes from the bench, nor would he fail to recognise the defensive frailties that continue to cost us lots of silly points
I hope he has said words to the effect of "you've got till the end of July to convince me"
Of course we're all speculating but it would be a logical thing for him to do
But most of us have been saying for a long long time that his decision wouldnt be about money (although obviously it will be a factor) but he will want the club to show him some ambition to become a winning team again. However I also believe that cesc gave the manager a similar "ultimatum" last summer and we seen how that worked out didnt we plus there was a rumour going about lately that wenger told rvp that nobody will tell him what to do re player signings so it doesnt bode well I'm afraid
N1Goon wrote:Some part of me thinks that Robin is trying to get the board to spend big on a player as part of a deal to stay. I don't think he's asking for just x amount of money.
If there is truth in that, then I take my hat off to him. At least it would prove once and for all that its about glory and not trophies. I said a while back that I don't believe it will come down to the difference between 130k per week to stay, and say 200k elsewhere. The guy is not daft enough to realise that his strike partners - the Camel and SQP - were so substandard they were hardly deemed worthy of 20 minutes from the bench, nor would he fail to recognise the defensive frailties that continue to cost us lots of silly points
I hope he has said words to the effect of "you've got till the end of July to convince me"
Of course we're all speculating but it would be a logical thing for him to do
But most of us have been saying for a long long time that his decision wouldnt be about money (although obviously it will be a factor) but he will want the club to show him some ambition to become a winning team again. However I also believe that cesc gave the manager a similar "ultimatum" last summer and we seen how that worked out didnt we plus there was a rumour going about lately that wenger told rvp that nobody will tell him what to do re player signings so it doesnt bode well I'm afraid
Fair enough - in which case the GIC can not claim he hasn't been warned on more than one occasion by one of his key players. If Van Persie leaves then frankly whatever follows is 99% certain to be a backwards step because we simply don't improve our squad when the likes of him and Cesc leave
I expect RvP to leave, Podolski and Kalou to be our main strikers, supplemented by TH14 on loan again for a couple of months. The Camel and SQP will still be here because nobody will pay those goons what we do.
N1Goon wrote:Some part of me thinks that Robin is trying to get the board to spend big on a player as part of a deal to stay. I don't think he's asking for just x amount of money.
If there is truth in that, then I take my hat off to him. At least it would prove once and for all that its about glory and not trophies. I said a while back that I don't believe it will come down to the difference between 130k per week to stay, and say 200k elsewhere. The guy is not daft enough to realise that his strike partners - the Camel and SQP - were so substandard they were hardly deemed worthy of 20 minutes from the bench, nor would he fail to recognise the defensive frailties that continue to cost us lots of silly points
I hope he has said words to the effect of "you've got till the end of July to convince me"
Of course we're all speculating but it would be a logical thing for him to do
But most of us have been saying for a long long time that his decision wouldnt be about money (although obviously it will be a factor) but he will want the club to show him some ambition to become a winning team again. However I also believe that cesc gave the manager a similar "ultimatum" last summer and we seen how that worked out didnt we plus there was a rumour going about lately that wenger told rvp that nobody will tell him what to do re player signings so it doesnt bode well I'm afraid
It is all about the money, it's just a job to them and that's to be expected because it is, it's like any other profession and if someone offers to double your money you wouldn't be very intelligent if you turn it down.
I know some are gonna argue that 130 grand is more than enough (and of course, it is) and he can't spend the extra 70 grand a week on offer from say city but obviously these guys have a taste for finer things and he will want as much in the bank for when he retires from playing which will be at the end of this last contract IMO.
As for it being arsenes or arsenals fault that cesc left is wide of the mark IMO, he was always going to barca and we could have gone and bought 5 world class players but he was still off and understandably considering the circumstances.
We have first team starters now who are so poor/average that they wouldnt have got near the subs bench a few years ago and in a league with the worst standard for over a decade we are only good enough to finish 19 points behind the top 2 
