Aaron Ramsey - statistics and form etc.

[officepest]

I reckon had he joined the mancs Fergie would've made a top midfielder out of him already. Under our senile madman he's simply got no chance.

What the fuck was he thinking turning them down for us btw?

Let me think......oh yeah, vast wads of cash.

[clockender1]

ramsay is a symptom of our decline.

average kid who thinks he's made it, persisted with by a manager who refuses to admit he's wrong.

our youth team and reserves must look at ramsay and think why bother ?

at least we could laugh at gus, this one is more pity.

[Barriecuda]

I reckon had he joined the mancs Fergie would've made a top midfielder out of him already. Under our senile madman he's simply got no chance.

What the fuck was he thinking turning them down for us btw?

+1 I think he would have really benefitted from Scholes, Giggs, etc.

At Arsenal, we have guys like Rosicky and Diaby to teach him the ropes. In between rehab sessions.

I have been a vehement supporter of, and defender of, Ramsey. But he hasn't been doing well at all lately, it's making it very hard to defend him. I think the real problem is though, he's obviously a raw player who's still very young (who had a big set back with the injury) yet AW is putting him out there as first-line cover for the starting 11 and he's just not ready for that role yet. Then he gets stick from the fans because he's out of place, though it's just further detrimental to him.

[FrenchGun]

I don't buy the "if he was at Mancs" story. Even if he was at Barca under Guardiola there's nothing to be done about this player. How anyone ever saw any talent in this guy, even before his injury is beyond me. He started in the first team around the same time as Wilshere, and already back then you could see Jack would be ten times the player aaron could ever be.

His miss vs. Olympiacos... It's a slow, grounded ball on the penalty spot, without any challenge coming. You don't get many easier ball in football. If you can't catch the frame from this distance, let alone shoot in the m*ther-f*ckin ball then I don't see any coach in the world ever making a good football player out of you...

[northbank123]

Don't buy that he would be a world class player under Ferguson now either. He's been unlucky and there's always a risk you take with youngsters. After all, if Ferguson could have guaranteed he'd make him quality then he'd have offered him more money, the reason he didn't is because he doesn't base his whole side around gambles on kids.

[Peeman]

Another start, another defeat


Stats can be misleading though

[DB10GOONER]

The Welsh Denilson. 'Nuff said.

[northbank123]

The Welsh Denilson. 'Nuff said.

How much longer are we going to have to put up with him? It beggars belief, to be fair to the lad he couldn't have done anything more to warrant being banished to the ressies but finds himself still inexplicably in contention.

[DB10GOONER]

The Welsh Denilson. 'Nuff said.

How much longer are we going to have to put up with him? It beggars belief, to be fair to the lad he couldn't have done anything more to warrant being banished to the ressies but finds himself still inexplicably in contention.

I agree and I have sympathy for him. I'd hoped he would become a legend at our club, but time is up for him. He ain't got it. A shame, but the club must come first.

[AFCjames]

I take back most of my original post. He has been poor in the games he's played recently. I gave him the benefit of the doubt coming back from his injury, but that is no longer an excuse. He struggles to make basic passes and finishing has been poor.

He might of been a good midfielder, under another manager. Instead he has turned into a similar version of Denilson.

[northbank123]

I don't blame Wenger completely for this. There's always a risk in buying a young player and tbf he was playing extremely well before that thug broke his leg. I don't really blame 'coaching' per se because the crux of it is that he can't manage the tempo we play at, which is hardly impressive these days, and that's not really down to coaching imo. The only difference that him going to United would have made is that Shawcross wouldn't have dared break his leg like that and then be made out to be a victim.

The real travesty isn't that he didn't make the cut, it's that he was used to try and replace Fabregas (LOL) last season and then has found himself regularly starting this year especially in big games, despite all contrary efforts to get himself dropped.

[Yankee_Gooner_Dandee]

[MK Gould]

He should never pull on an Arsenal shirt again as far as I'm concerned. I think we should pay someone to take him off our hands in January.

[northbank123]

He should never pull on an Arsenal shirt again as far as I'm concerned. I think we should pay someone to take him off our hands in January.

Why not? We still pay most of Bendtner and Denilson's wages (apparently) which isn't a huge surprise. Park too.

[MK Gould]

He should never pull on an Arsenal shirt again as far as I'm concerned. I think we should pay someone to take him off our hands in January.

Why not? We still pay most of Bendtner and Denilson's wages (apparently) which isn't a huge surprise.

I don't mean send him out on loan. I mean actually pay someone a transfer fee to take him off our hands - permanently! Or maybe pay up the remainder of his contract and then make him a free agent...

Park too.

Park is a strange one.... Someone, somewhere, must have seen something about the guy to bring him in. And yet he has only one Premier League substitute appearance to his name in almost a year