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Eboue-Why? wrote:Mate, it's hardly a bleedin love in!!
Everyone on here hates the Spuds with a passion. All some are saying is that like it or not they have a chance of winning the fucking thing. It's a fucking scary thought and something I genuinely never thought I'd have to face in my lifetime.
Hopefully they'll fuck up like they always do......hopefully


^^ This sums it up perfectly 8)
I'm 47 years old and in my lifetime they haven't even come close to winning the league - during that time they have had many far, far better teams than this one but those teams were playing in far tougher leagues than this one. The reality is that there hasn't been a weaker league in over 30 years and it wont take a good team to win it - we are currently just 2pts off top spot and we have a team/squad that isn't fit to be on the same pitch as our previous title winning teams much less actually compete with them :oops: All we are saying is that, instead of focusing on their weaknesses, try and make reasoned arguments as to why any of the other 3 will win it - try as you might you cannot make compelling reasons why any of the 4 teams will win the league and that is why the scum are well in this race, but that is a far cry from an actual scum love in as some seem to think

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Spurs are Spurs, they will always find a way to balls it up.

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SteveO 35 wrote:Guys.....honest to fucking god, will you enjoy our last minute goal today and just hit the pause button about that lot from up the road. Yeah yeah, they beat City 2-1 - great result, fair play, best defence in the league, less money than us, Pochettino made of pure gold. Yep, that guy, the one who took Espanyol to the foot of La Liga and then despite inheriting the best crop of youngsters in generations at Southampton couldn't achieve half of what Koeman did a year later when the arse had been ripped out of that squad

This is Tottenham Hotspur - they of 2 league titles and without a finish in the top 2 of English football since 1963. Without the FA Cup (despite being a 'great cup side') for 25 years, and despite our less than average record in European football.....without a European trophy in over 30 years.

I beg you to stop doing it to yourselves - you're worse than them. 13 points clear of us in Feb before and STILL managed to fuck it up despite having Modric and Bale. They've got one magician - Eriksen - and a defence punching above its weight. Aguero on most days would have scored at least 2 today and they were folding like a deck of cards until that lucky break

We WILL finish above them. Anyone wants the bet, PM me
This ^ 100%. 8)

This scum team are sooooooo good they are, what now, 20 points clear of us? :lol: :roll:

I find it interesting that itchybaba spends more time on here hysterically bigging up the scum and only posting negative shit about Arsenal. And some of you still think this guy isn't a WUM? :roll:

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I'll try one last fucking time. You want reasons.....here's the reasons:

1. Their manager is a grade A loser. Yep, whilst we all know TO1AW's shortcomings this fella hasn't got a trophy to his name, was sacked from an established La Liga team for being bottom of the league and achieved fuck all at Southampton despite having the best bunch of kids anywhere in the country - subsequently borne out by the prices they were sold for. Koeman trashed his achievement in the space of months having had to build a team almost from scratch

2. Teams that don't have to cope with expectation all of a sudden find themselves having to do just that when they suddenly find themselves in this position. I don't think there's a player in that squad that is used to having to live with that on a regular basis for their club side and all of a sudden when the "55 years without a league title" stuff gets widely reported before every live TV match, it will be a major test of their bottle and one I think they will fail

3. With the exception of Kane and Eriksen, I wouldn't take any of them. The defence has coped well till now, but Walker and Rose are suicide fullbacks and if you actually watch the game yesterday, you'll realise that far from 'good defending' Aguero actually spurned chance after chance. On another day that's 4-1 and the cracks have been exposed.

4. They have a massively congested schedule and if they stay in that Europa League they will have more Sunday games than all of the rest of the top 4, and will inevitably be 'last up'. Linked to point 2 I think they will buckle

5. They have been incredibly lucky with injuries - which means 1 of 2 things, either that luck continues and this lot become burned out whilst the fringe players have barely kicked a ball.....or they get injuries that weaken the team at the wrong time. Kane in particular would be more of a loss than either Giroud to Arsenal, or Aguero to City.

6. They play a game which is all about energy and that will drop inevitably in the next few weeks, especially if they do carry on in the Thursday Night Cup

7. In April when the expectations will be the highest they've been in their recent history they play Liverpool, Stoke and Chelsea all away from home, and have United at home. If they are still in the Europa that will be even tougher than at face value. We on the other hand have the 'flat trackers' coming to town to be bullied. Even in May, Saints at home who are going for Europe and playing brilliantly right now, and the Barcodes away on the final day and might need something to stay up......tough ask. The argument will be how tough our March looks but they have us to play and before that a trip to the Hammers who will love nothing more than sticking one on them

If they defy all of that and win the League then they would truly deserve it. I just don't think they will and in fact think they'll be scrapping for 3rd with Leicester come the end of the season

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SteveO 35 wrote:I'll try one last fucking time. You want reasons.....here's the reasons:

1. Their manager is a grade A loser. Yep, whilst we all know TO1AW's shortcomings this fella hasn't got a trophy to his name, was sacked from an established La Liga team for being bottom of the league and achieved fuck all at Southampton despite having the best bunch of kids anywhere in the country - subsequently borne out by the prices they were sold for. Koeman trashed his achievement in the space of months having had to build a team almost from scratch

2. Teams that don't have to cope with expectation all of a sudden find themselves having to do just that when they suddenly find themselves in this position. I don't think there's a player in that squad that is used to having to live with that on a regular basis for their club side and all of a sudden when the "55 years without a league title" stuff gets widely reported before every live TV match, it will be a major test of their bottle and one I think they will fail

3. With the exception of Kane and Eriksen, I wouldn't take any of them. The defence has coped well till now, but Walker and Rose are suicide fullbacks and if you actually watch the game yesterday, you'll realise that far from 'good defending' Aguero actually spurned chance after chance. On another day that's 4-1 and the cracks have been exposed.

4. They have a massively congested schedule and if they stay in that Europa League they will have more Sunday games than all of the rest of the top 4, and will inevitably be 'last up'. Linked to point 2 I think they will buckle

5. They have been incredibly lucky with injuries - which means 1 of 2 things, either that luck continues and this lot become burned out whilst the fringe players have barely kicked a ball.....or they get injuries that weaken the team at the wrong time. Kane in particular would be more of a loss than either Giroud to Arsenal, or Aguero to City.

6. They play a game which is all about energy and that will drop inevitably in the next few weeks, especially if they do carry on in the Thursday Night Cup

7. In April when the expectations will be the highest they've been in their recent history they play Liverpool, Stoke and Chelsea all away from home, and have United at home. If they are still in the Europa that will be even tougher than at face value. We on the other hand have the 'flat trackers' coming to town to be bullied. Even in May, Saints at home who are going for Europe and playing brilliantly right now, and the Barcodes away on the final day and might need something to stay up......tough ask. The argument will be how tough our March looks but they have us to play and before that a trip to the Hammers who will love nothing more than sticking one on them

If they defy all of that and win the League then they would truly deserve it. I just don't think they will and in fact think they'll be scrapping for 3rd with Leicester come the end of the season
thing is SteveO when they comfortably butt hole us in a few weeks how bad by your reasoning does that make us? the reality is Spuds are on a run that started in august not a few weeks back,this is very real

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SteveO 35 wrote:I'll try one last fucking time. You want reasons.....here's the reasons:

1. Their manager is a grade A loser. Yep, whilst we all know TO1AW's shortcomings this fella hasn't got a trophy to his name, was sacked from an established La Liga team for being bottom of the league and achieved fuck all at Southampton despite having the best bunch of kids anywhere in the country - subsequently borne out by the prices they were sold for. Koeman trashed his achievement in the space of months having had to build a team almost from scratch

2. Teams that don't have to cope with expectation all of a sudden find themselves having to do just that when they suddenly find themselves in this position. I don't think there's a player in that squad that is used to having to live with that on a regular basis for their club side and all of a sudden when the "55 years without a league title" stuff gets widely reported before every live TV match, it will be a major test of their bottle and one I think they will fail

3. With the exception of Kane and Eriksen, I wouldn't take any of them. The defence has coped well till now, but Walker and Rose are suicide fullbacks and if you actually watch the game yesterday, you'll realise that far from 'good defending' Aguero actually spurned chance after chance. On another day that's 4-1 and the cracks have been exposed.

4. They have a massively congested schedule and if they stay in that Europa League they will have more Sunday games than all of the rest of the top 4, and will inevitably be 'last up'. Linked to point 2 I think they will buckle

5. They have been incredibly lucky with injuries - which means 1 of 2 things, either that luck continues and this lot become burned out whilst the fringe players have barely kicked a ball.....or they get injuries that weaken the team at the wrong time. Kane in particular would be more of a loss than either Giroud to Arsenal, or Aguero to City.

6. They play a game which is all about energy and that will drop inevitably in the next few weeks, especially if they do carry on in the Thursday Night Cup

7. In April when the expectations will be the highest they've been in their recent history they play Liverpool, Stoke and Chelsea all away from home, and have United at home. If they are still in the Europa that will be even tougher than at face value. We on the other hand have the 'flat trackers' coming to town to be bullied. Even in May, Saints at home who are going for Europe and playing brilliantly right now, and the Barcodes away on the final day and might need something to stay up......tough ask. The argument will be how tough our March looks but they have us to play and before that a trip to the Hammers who will love nothing more than sticking one on them

If they defy all of that and win the League then they would truly deserve it. I just don't think they will and in fact think they'll be scrapping for 3rd with Leicester come the end of the season
thing is SteveO when they comfortably butt hole us in a few weeks how bad by your reasoning does that make us? the reality is Spuds are on a run that started in august not a few weeks back,this is very real

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At times it's hard to actually think this a forum for arsenal fans.

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Spurs like us have benefitted from a shit league, there is no doubt about that. Chelsea will never have a season like this again, I'm sure Pep will improve City and whoever takes on Man U....well, I doubt they could spend what LVG has spend and end up with such an unbalanced fucked up squad.

In each of the last 2 seasons at this stage (26 games) Chavski had 60 points, the year before Man Ure had 65, and before that City had 63.

So normally at this stage us and the Spuds would be between 9 and 14 points off the lead on 51 points - sounds about right given the shitness of the league. So I get the argument that they are benefitting from a shit league.....BUT.....so is every other fucker out there including 3 teams who have a track record of finishing top 4 season after season and live with that expectation. We will see what happens but I think its expectation at a time when they have some punishing games that will cost them

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mcdowell42 wrote:At times it's hard to actually think this a forum for arsenal fans.
its about seperating reality from blind faith,to think spuds will be toilet forever is as bad as the AKB's thinking Wenker is still the right man for the job,things change sad to say,hopefully this will be a bad dream and in a couple of months it would have all gone away

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They have been toilet since 1961.

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mcdowell42 wrote:They have been toilet since 1961.


And with a bit of luck they will remain that way 8) However I cannot fathom how we are all supposed to believe that it will remain that way for no other reason other than the fact that we hate them :? It also pisses me off that we cant seem to distinguish between airing real serious concerns about the possibility of them winning the league, and actually wanting them to win the league :roll:

Steve O rightly points out several examples of why they will blow it, but I keep saying that we all know that they are bang average but bang average will win it this season regardless of what team finishes top :oops: My fear is not based on grading any aspect of what they do, but is based on the following ........

1. WE continually wilt under pressure - every season we have a massive run of form, but invariably it comes when the pressure is off after a woeful run of results and performances. Our squad's lack of character and backbone is legendary and when the pressure is on I wouldn't back our pussies to win the coin toss with a double headed coin :roll:
2. With citeeh it really is a take your pick scenario.......either they have gone into holiday mode since the pep announcement, or they just lack the passion and determination this season. They have a captain who is continually injured, and a vice captain who is a lazy c.unt and is already planning his next payday :roll: They are looking like a team devoid of leaders and a team that has lost its hunger, and only turn up to play when it suits them
3. Leicester have never been in this situation before so it is all new to them - people point to that inexperience and suggest that the pressure to win the league will be their downfall, but I think that they might handle the pressure ok if they ignored the likelihood that this will be the ONLY chance that they will ever have to win the league, but we all know that wont happen and they will crumble. The other clubs are taking them a lot more seriously now, and that quashes any surprise element they were bringing. What will also probably happen, is when they start to drop points, the players like mahrez and kante will start to dream of stepping up to a big club and a club like Leicester cannot afford to have players not 100% focused on the job at hand

Anyway I am really hoping that the overload of fixtures the scum face will derail their title bid and keep them back in our shadows, because I feel that we will need them to balls up cos the other 3 teams are all capable of handing the trophy on a plate to them

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for me it's still Leicester's to lose.

Less games than both us and Tottenham. No Euro hangover that we and Tottenham will suffer. Playing once a week, no real injuries to talk about and a much easier run in and with 7 home games and 5 away

Or am i just praying Tottenham don't win the league

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I'm getting a bit concerned about them too. They also have a tricky Europa fixture which could easily go out next round which will free up their schedule.

If they lose couple more key players I can see them dropping off.

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I'll begin to worry if they throw the Europa league or loose in it quickly, but if they decide to stay in and battle for that then i don't think they have got the depth of squad (sound familiar) to sustain campaigns in both :rubchin:

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People talk of Leicester as not being able to handle the pressure of challenging for a title and winning it, how many of our players are experienced in handling the pressure of winning the Premier League. I think I can think of one, with a few players who have won big things elsewhere.

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