THE WENGER THREAD

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Spuddy reeling out a weak, contradictory defence of his old Lord and saviour. Still some yet to go before he completely joins the dark side of the force.

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So now Chelsea are lining up to sign Sanchez, whilst there are reports we will reluctantly sell Ozil unless he lowers his wage demands.

The club gauge the fans for ticket prices, raising them every fuking year from their already high point, yet signal to the fans that the best players to have played for us since Henry/Vieira/Bergkamp are going to be sold because the club doesnt want to spend the money to keep them (it would appear they would rather keep it).

For starters, their wage demands are within the ball park for what players of their caliber are being paid. So I really dont get the idea of not giving them what they want. Another thing, if Wenger thinks he can sell them and go back to Giroud upfront, or Ramsey/Wilshere to replace Ozil then he is fuking brain dead. He wont survive. The old french fool must realise his future at the club is tied to Ozil and Sanchez. The arrogance of that man to believe he could sell Ozil and Sanchez and retain any Arsenal fans belief going forward is stunning.

Im absolutely stunned by the clubs position on the issue. I thought when we shelled out 35m for Xhaka who is not even considered a starter, that we were in new found financial strengh and were serious about keeping our top players.

Is Wenger really that bothered about being paid less than any of the players? Jose never minded Ronaldo earning 500k a year which was over twice Jose's salary. Pep never minded Messi earning over 500k a year which is twice Pep's salary. Ferguson paid Rooney and Ronaldo more than him back in the day. All these brilliant managers never had any issue with earning less than one of their players, but apparently for Wenger, its an issue. Why? I think its a power issue - he is a control freak and the concept of the club valuing another person more in monetary terms just cuts Wenger's ego. He would rather remain the highest paid person at the club, even if it means setting the club club significantly by losing its two best players.


Tell me again the french fuk wit has Arsenal's best interest at heart...........the club is just his toy thing to manifest his own ego.

If he doesnt win the league, fuk off, if Ozil or Sanchz leave, he can fuk off. If both leave and we dont win the league, he can fuk off out tthe back door without even a thank you.

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StuartL wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't think he is concerned about players earning more than him. I think that's a bit far fetched myself.

I think he just doesn't agree that a footballer is worth that kind of money and I'd have to say I agree with him in many respects. Where I don't agree with him though is that a manager is worth it!

There's no doubt that he's a complete hypocrite in that respect but I don't think he is actually bothered about himself not being the biggest earner.
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.

The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
StuartL wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't think he is concerned about players earning more than him. I think that's a bit far fetched myself.

I think he just doesn't agree that a footballer is worth that kind of money and I'd have to say I agree with him in many respects. Where I don't agree with him though is that a manager is worth it!

There's no doubt that he's a complete hypocrite in that respect but I don't think he is actually bothered about himself not being the biggest earner.
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.

The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!

if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care.
Appalling if true, the club is awash with money.

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Its the hypocrisy that does me. They complain about extravagant money in football. Yet our own club are pioneers when it comes new breaking new ground in terms of costs for match day and season tickets.

If you are paying 500 pound per seating at a restaurant, is better be three Michelin stars. But at the Arsenal restaurant, they charge 3 Michelin stars prices, for pub food.

Dont take a moral position in terms of having to pay out wages. When you are the pioneers in money grabbing.

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Wilson wrote:Its the hypocrisy that does me. They complain about extravagant money in football. Yet our own club are pioneers when it comes to breaking new ground in terms of costs for match day and season tickets.

If you are paying 500 pound per seating at a restaurant, is better be three Michelin stars. But at the Arsenal restaurant, they charge 3 Michelin stars prices, for pub food.

Dont take a moral position in terms of having to pay out wages. When you are the pioneers in money grabbing.

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Wilson wrote:Its the hypocrisy that does me. They complain about extravagant money in football. Yet our own club are pioneers when it comes new breaking new ground in terms of costs for match day and season tickets.

If you are paying 500 pound per seating at a restaurant, is better be three Michelin stars. But at the Arsenal restaurant, they charge 3 Michelin stars prices, for pub food.

Dont take a moral position in terms of having to pay out wages. When you are the pioneers in money grabbing.
Agree 100%. Wenger's logic on the financial side of football is the most hypocritical. He rambles on about dizzying prices, and not wanting to over pay players, yet has spent the last decade making mediocre players into millionaires. Also his worries on the financial side of football, never extends to the extortionate ticket prices that fans are asked to pay. remember his great line from a few years ago, "go to the game, and then judge was it worth the price you paid".

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Blood_Gooner wrote:Spuddy reeling out a weak, contradictory defence of his old Lord and saviour. Still some yet to go before he completely joins the dark side of the force.

If you can read anything there that says I'm supporting him then you're clearly a moron.

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BFG4 wrote:
Wilson wrote:Its the hypocrisy that does me. They complain about extravagant money in football. Yet our own club are pioneers when it comes new breaking new ground in terms of costs for match day and season tickets.

If you are paying 500 pound per seating at a restaurant, is better be three Michelin stars. But at the Arsenal restaurant, they charge 3 Michelin stars prices, for pub food.

Dont take a moral position in terms of having to pay out wages. When you are the pioneers in money grabbing.
Agree 100%. Wenger's logic on the financial side of football is the most hypocritical. He rambles on about dizzying prices, and not wanting to over pay players, yet has spent the last decade making mediocre players into millionaires. Also his worries on the financial side of football, never extends to the extortionate ticket prices that fans are asked to pay. remember his great line from a few years ago, "go to the game, and then judge was it worth the price you paid".
yeah I went to the league cup game and even though it only cost £10 I can safely say it was still not worth that! :D

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Wilson wrote:So now Chelsea are lining up to sign Sanchez, whilst there are reports we will reluctantly sell Ozil unless he lowers his wage demands.

The club gauge the fans for ticket prices, raising them every fuking year from their already high point, yet signal to the fans that the best players to have played for us since Henry/Vieira/Bergkamp are going to be sold because the club doesnt want to spend the money to keep them (it would appear they would rather keep it).

For starters, their wage demands are within the ball park for what players of their caliber are being paid. So I really dont get the idea of not giving them what they want. Another thing, if Wenger thinks he can sell them and go back to Giroud upfront, or Ramsey/Wilshere to replace Ozil then he is fuking brain dead. He wont survive. The old french fool must realise his future at the club is tied to Ozil and Sanchez. The arrogance of that man to believe he could sell Ozil and Sanchez and retain any Arsenal fans belief going forward is stunning.

Im absolutely stunned by the clubs position on the issue. I thought when we shelled out 35m for Xhaka who is not even considered a starter, that we were in new found financial strengh and were serious about keeping our top players.

Is Wenger really that bothered about being paid less than any of the players? Jose never minded Ronaldo earning 500k a year which was over twice Jose's salary. Pep never minded Messi earning over 500k a year which is twice Pep's salary. Ferguson paid Rooney and Ronaldo more than him back in the day. All these brilliant managers never had any issue with earning less than one of their players, but apparently for Wenger, its an issue. Why? I think its a power issue - he is a control freak and the concept of the club valuing another person more in monetary terms just cuts Wenger's ego. He would rather remain the highest paid person at the club, even if it means setting the club club significantly by losing its two best players.


Tell me again the french fuk wit has Arsenal's best interest at heart...........the club is just his toy thing to manifest his own ego.

If he doesnt win the league, fuk off, if Ozil or Sanchz leave, he can fuk off. If both leave and we dont win the league, he can fuk off out tthe back door without even a thank you.
Brilliant post mate! :barscarf:

But the Wenger supporters will always have an excuse or many for their glorious leader. :banghead:

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Redarmy wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:
StuartL wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't think he is concerned about players earning more than him. I think that's a bit far fetched myself.

I think he just doesn't agree that a footballer is worth that kind of money and I'd have to say I agree with him in many respects. Where I don't agree with him though is that a manager is worth it!

There's no doubt that he's a complete hypocrite in that respect but I don't think he is actually bothered about himself not being the biggest earner.
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.

The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!

if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that

If wenger loses either of them through his inability to negotiate which is what it would be and either of them end up leaving then surely not even the most unconscious, single brain celled dumbass m'fuker of an AKB could possibly defend the cuntt then!

If either of them go - No matter to whom etc - Wenger will be hounded out of the club :box: :cussing:

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OneBardGooner wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:
StuartL wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:I don't think he is concerned about players earning more than him. I think that's a bit far fetched myself.

I think he just doesn't agree that a footballer is worth that kind of money and I'd have to say I agree with him in many respects. Where I don't agree with him though is that a manager is worth it!

There's no doubt that he's a complete hypocrite in that respect but I don't think he is actually bothered about himself not being the biggest earner.
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.

The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!

if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that

If wenger loses either of them through his inability to negotiate which is what it would be and either of them end up leaving then surely not even the most unconscious, single brain celled dumbass m'fuker of an AKB could possibly defend the cuntt then!

If either of them go - No matter to whom etc - Wenger will be hounded out of the club :box: :cussing:
If Sanchez goes after these lot get highest gate receipts and most expensive tickets, cant even imagine him at Chelsea think i would loose it big time
fucking unthinkable he should go there

Those AKBs will still defend him....fucking sheep....Red action....Untold Arsenal....wankers

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Redarmy wrote:
OneBardGooner wrote:
Redarmy wrote:
SPUDMASHER wrote:
StuartL wrote:
But he is quite happy to sanction Giroud and Walcott on approx £130,000 -£140,000 per week when Alexis & Ozil are twice the players, genuine quality that would earn what they are apparently requesting at other clubs.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean a footballer is worth double the amount if they're twice as good. It just means that the lesser player is overpaid.

The BBC gossip today says that the club have resigned themselves to losing Ozil in the summer over wage demands they will not meet. It also suggests that Sanchez could be off to Chelsea (personally I don't believe that will happen). I actually think we will lose both players this summer and AW won't care. He'll have what he believes is a plan to cover those roles with equal quality at half the price. Deluded nonsense of course but he'll believe it. So once again we'll take a step back because of the lack of ambition shown by both our board and manager. Meanwhile the money keeps rolling in!

if Sanchez did go to Chelsea...that would be it for me.....could not take that

If wenger loses either of them through his inability to negotiate which is what it would be and either of them end up leaving then surely not even the most unconscious, single brain celled dumbass m'fuker of an AKB could possibly defend the cuntt then!

If either of them go - No matter to whom etc - Wenger will be hounded out of the club :box: :cussing:
If Sanchez goes after these lot get highest gate receipts and most expensive tickets, cant even imagine him at Chelsea think i would loose it big time
fucking unthinkable he should go there

Those AKBs will still defend him....fucking sheep....Red action....Untold Arsenal....wankers
Red action are planning a banner of Sanchez dogs apparently in a bid to get him to stay....like i said wankers

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SPUDMASHER wrote:
Blood_Gooner wrote:Spuddy reeling out a weak, contradictory defence of his old Lord and saviour. Still some yet to go before he completely joins the dark side of the force.

If you can read anything there that says I'm supporting him then you're clearly a moron.

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