THE WENGER THREAD

[xisstential]

Embarrassing himself in the press again by saying how the referees are "protected like lions in the zoo" The irony, from the most protected manager in the UK, if not the world. The most alarming thing is that this zip challenged, overpaid, incompetent pensioner, thinks we played well in both games and "were in charge" Frightening really.

If the team played badly, then it's their fault and by association, the managers fault....so obviously it cannot be that. And he talks about people being "protected"???

[Bradywasking]

Further comments in the Independent quote Wenger having a go at the Premier League for scheduling the Everton game on the Tuesday when there are many teams not in Europe (competition) that could have played on the Tuesday......Well the extra day created by the Tuesday fixture certainly helped in the second half in Manchester yesterday didn't it?
No proof needed on this forum but to the believers elsewhere, to the ex players and the supporting journalists these comments must surely tip the balance and convince them that Wenger has lost all grip on reality..

[greengooner]

Some heartfelt stuff on Arsenal Fan tv.......and very true

Just listened to DT on Arsenal fan TV
He hits the nail on the head when he says that the Spurs capitulation was the worst thing that could have happened. Like continually finishing 4th it is papering over the cracks.

This club needs to fail and fail big to rise again (look at Chelsea last season and compare to now ) Wenger does just enough, and I and pretty much everyone on here hate him for it. He must go now.

The board love him, achieving the bare minimum on a budget, I can't see them moving him out, he'll go when he wants to go, I'm am genuinely worried about the future of the club trapped in a spiral of mediocrity, I feel I may leave before he does

[Allgunsblazin]

He is the Pinochet,Saddam and Gaddaffi rolled into one...
The last remaining despot who convinces himself on what a good job he does...
Two big defeats another 4th place trophy awaits him...

[xisstential]

I said over 5 years ago that the best thing that could happen to the club was for us to miss out on CL qualification. Wenger turned that CL qualification into a virtual trophy and a lot of people bought into it. He sees it as his greatest achievement where in reality, to be involved in a competition for nearly 2 decades and have such an abysmal record, it is his greatest failure. As long as we qualified,as long as that money came in, Wengers position was safe. Win nothing for 3 years AND fail to qualify, let that income dry up and I think Kronke might have taken a different view on Wenger's position. Wenger knows it as well, it is the ONLY time he inspires his troops, not to go top, not to win the PL or CL but to retain and maintain top 4. His greatest achievement....what a scathing "accolade"

[subtleasaheadbutt]

Has he gone yet?

Yeah, Quartz has been missing for a while. As for Wenger agree with DB....2025. Once you realize that you can start the 7 steps of grief

[robbo10]

Way way way beyond frustration with him now,way way past pity,way beyond the fact he's 103 and should be tucked up in a home,he is embarrassing,hes an embarrassment to my club,to our club,that yesterday wasn't down to players wages,that was down to rank bad motivation and lack of desire,and not actually giving a fuck,and that stems from the top,Wenger and Bould,he had his cover story for his players as soon as the first goal appeared offside,we've seen it before,with the Eduardo tackle,the Brum penalty,that's his get out of jail card,he's so quick to berate the 4th official publicly but never Monreal for getting skinned by Sterling,he will never admit its his errors,always someone else's,the man is a fraud,a myth,a despot,the only crumb of comfort is he's an old c*nt otherwise the Wenger vanity project could last another 20 years.I dare any Arsenal fan to come up with a credible argument for him staying.......

[robbo10]

I said over 5 years ago that the best thing that could happen to the club was for us to miss out on CL qualification. Wenger turned that CL qualification into a virtual trophy and a lot of people bought into it. He sees it as his greatest achievement where in reality, to be involved in a competition for nearly 2 decades and have such an abysmal record, it is his greatest failure. As long as we qualified,as long as that money came in, Wengers position was safe. Win nothing for 3 years AND fail to qualify, let that income dry up and I think Kronke might have taken a different view on Wenger's position. Wenger knows it as well, it is the ONLY time he inspires his troops, not to go top, not to win the PL or CL but to retain and maintain top 4. His greatest achievement....what a scathing "accolade"

I think it would have needed to be maybe 3 years of non-qualification,and some mid-table finishes before the board might have even thought of sacking him,mind you at Arsene FC Wenger probably would have to sack himself,I don't think a year would have done it,

[xisstential]

I said over 5 years ago that the best thing that could happen to the club was for us to miss out on CL qualification. Wenger turned that CL qualification into a virtual trophy and a lot of people bought into it. He sees it as his greatest achievement where in reality, to be involved in a competition for nearly 2 decades and have such an abysmal record, it is his greatest failure. As long as we qualified,as long as that money came in, Wengers position was safe. Win nothing for 3 years AND fail to qualify, let that income dry up and I think Kronke might have taken a different view on Wenger's position. Wenger knows it as well, it is the ONLY time he inspires his troops, not to go top, not to win the PL or CL but to retain and maintain top 4. His greatest achievement....what a scathing "accolade"

I think it would have needed to be maybe 3 years of non-qualification,and some mid-table finishes before the board might have even thought of sacking him,mind you at Arsene FC Wenger probably would have to sack himself,I don't think a year would have done it,

I said 3 years in my original post.... If he missed out once,they would have thought it an aberration as he has such a good record, back to back failures... a few worried looks... 3 years and I think he would have been given his final year. Kronke relies on that money, Arsenal is a business to him, nothing more... and he is a businessman, no decent businessman would tolerate operating at a loss.

[Gunner Rob]

[quote="Gunner Rob"]
we play 3 PL games in a week from Saturday (thats a more intense period than over Christmas)
Pep Guardiola will play all reserves this evening, why won't Wenger? And if he doesnt I bet the press still wont slaughter him for it [/quote

I posted this on the Basle match thread as I knew the senile old would play a strong side that evening.
Now that would be fair enough if Wenger intended to rotate the team in the next few matches, but oh no, he flogs our top players to death, match after match after match. Hardly a coincidence that we led 1-0 v Everton and City and then lost 2-1 in both. This past week has been an accident waiting to happen. It was so utterly predictable.

[robbo10]

I said over 5 years ago that the best thing that could happen to the club was for us to miss out on CL qualification. Wenger turned that CL qualification into a virtual trophy and a lot of people bought into it. He sees it as his greatest achievement where in reality, to be involved in a competition for nearly 2 decades and have such an abysmal record, it is his greatest failure. As long as we qualified,as long as that money came in, Wengers position was safe. Win nothing for 3 years AND fail to qualify, let that income dry up and I think Kronke might have taken a different view on Wenger's position. Wenger knows it as well, it is the ONLY time he inspires his troops, not to go top, not to win the PL or CL but to retain and maintain top 4. His greatest achievement....what a scathing "accolade"

I think it would have needed to be maybe 3 years of non-qualification,and some mid-table finishes before the board might have even thought of sacking him,mind you at Arsene FC Wenger probably would have to sack himself,I don't think a year would have done it,

I said 3 years in my original post.... If he missed out once,they would have thought it an aberration as he has such a good record, back to back failures... a few worried looks... 3 years and I think he would have been given his final year. Kronke relies on that money, Arsenal is a business to him, nothing more... and he is a businessman, no decent businessman would tolerate operating at a loss.

Yeah I think a total collapse would have been needed,over 3-4 years,then he would have had no excuse for not competing in the league with no major distractions,plus not getting Champions League money,but who knows how it would have worked with modern Arsenal,I seriously think Wenger is still untouchable at the club,and we all know he'll go when he's ready,but I agree cutting Stan's money supply would or could have been a start towards Wenger's departure.

[DB10GOONER]

Unbeaten since the opening w/e.
Through to the KO stage of the CL.
Three points of top of the table.
Through to the QF of the League Cup.

Everyone rushes to their keyboard to moan and bitch
Not one hint of positivity.

Welcome to the modern fan base

To be blunt, you represent the modern fan base more than anyone on here, blindly supporting your Lord and God Wenger even though he will make the same mistakes this season that he has made EVERY SINGLE YEAR more or less for a decade now. So maybe drop the cunty superfan snide remarks aimed at people that have mostly spent a lot more time money and effort supporting Arsenal than you have. Here's how this season will pan out;

Unbeaten since the opening w/e - Too many poor draws, and the losses will come. Again. Box Ticked!
Through to the KO stage of the CL - knocked out by first half decent team we meet. Again. Box about to be Ticked!
Three points of top of the table - will be 10 to 20 points off the winners in May. Again.
Through to the QF of the League Cup - will be knocked out in QF or SF. Again. Box Ticked!

I will take €100 of anyone's money on that. Why? Because that is more or less what happens EVERY SEASON.

And we should be "positive" about that?

Bayern...


Another box soon to be ticked!

Another box being ticked as we "progress" through another Groundhog Season. But hey - let's be positive!!

[robbo10]

Unbeaten since the opening w/e.
Through to the KO stage of the CL.
Three points of top of the table.
Through to the QF of the League Cup.

Everyone rushes to their keyboard to moan and bitch
Not one hint of positivity.

Welcome to the modern fan base

To be blunt, you represent the modern fan base more than anyone on here, blindly supporting your Lord and God Wenger even though he will make the same mistakes this season that he has made EVERY SINGLE YEAR more or less for a decade now. So maybe drop the cunty superfan snide remarks aimed at people that have mostly spent a lot more time money and effort supporting Arsenal than you have. Here's how this season will pan out;

Unbeaten since the opening w/e - Too many poor draws, and the losses will come. Again. Box Ticked!
Through to the KO stage of the CL - knocked out by first half decent team we meet. Again. Box about to be Ticked!
Three points of top of the table - will be 10 to 20 points off the winners in May. Again.
Through to the QF of the League Cup - will be knocked out in QF or SF. Again. Box Ticked!

I will take €100 of anyone's money on that. Why? Because that is more or less what happens EVERY SEASON.

And we should be "positive" about that?

Bayern...


Another box soon to be ticked!

Another box being ticked as we "progress" through another Groundhog Season. But hey - let's be positive!!

Ha ha Yeah lets be positive,Arsene is 103....

And we're not Totteringham...(well most of us aint on here )

[dano]

right now, looks like he is the most successful of Stan's teams, Nuggets are in 4th place (out of five teams), Avs are dead last (7th place out of 7 teams). Stan (and board) will not get rid of, nor pay the big money. Other posters are right, the team is a business now first, football club second.

[rodders999]

The "We are making progress/are a different proposition/have learned from our mistakes" so called tough game results 2016/17 (revised 19th December) -

Liverpool (H)
Leicester (A)
Chavs (H)
United (A)
PSG (H&A)
Scum (H)
Everton (A)
City (A)

1 win, 5 draws, 3 defeats.