As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
I loved having TH14 in the team because he was an amazing talent, but I never took to him as a person. I hated the finger to the lips goal 'celebration' and the arrogant stare after some goals.
He'll never have a place in my heart like IWWW or TA6 or GA7.
enjibenji wrote:5 days before the start of the season and still no defender or striker signed,the way this club is run from top to bottom is shambolic.
Are you telling me that the peerless Guardiola, the best coach in the world, could not find a better defender for £47.5m than John Stones, who can't even get into a very poor England side, and who makes horrendous mistakes on a regular basis? Doesn't that strike you as a little bit odd? I don't recall 'Pep' being a fan of English 'stoppers' in any previous times.
Rob Holding cost £2.5m plus extras (maybe chips all round for the Bolton board), and could well turn out to be the better player.
Wenger is still a total cock, but maybe he's got that one right.
I am sure we will use the £45m saved extremely wisely, though Stan might need a bigger bed to get it all stashed safely under.
Sorry no, was not suggesting that we spend our hard earned (thank you Sky) on Mr Stones, rather that on losing Stones, Everton go and get Williams right away.
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
This 100%. Henry was only ever about Henry. Not necessarily the worst thing in the world, most players are, to some extent. But let's not kid ourselves that he has sacrificed anything for The Arsenal or that his time with us was an act of selfless love on his behalf. His treatment of Reyes still pisses me off.
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
I loved having TH14 in the team because he was an amazing talent, but I never took to him as a person. I hated the finger to the lips goal 'celebration' and the arrogant stare after some goals.
He'll never have a place in my heart like IWWW or TA6 or GA7.
IWWW?!! Did you ever see Wrighty celebrate a goal or hear the stories oppo centre halves tell about him? Don't get me wrong, Wrighty is still one of my all time favourite Gunners, but let's not kid ourselves he wasn't just as much an arrogant fucker as Henry. The top top strikers usually are.
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
I loved having TH14 in the team because he was an amazing talent, but I never took to him as a person. I hated the finger to the lips goal 'celebration' and the arrogant stare after some goals.
He'll never have a place in my heart like IWWW or TA6 or GA7.
IWWW?!! Did you ever see Wrighty celebrate a goal or hear the stories oppo centre halves tell about him? Don't get me wrong, Wrighty is still one of my all time favourite Gunners, but let's not kid ourselves he wasn't just as much an arrogant fucker as Henry. The top top strikers usually are.
But Wrighty's celebrations were full off passion and delight (and often a bit mental), None of this 'too cool for school' bullshit that TH14 came up with,
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
What exactly is he stuck in the middle of? The only thing that is making him spout the shit he does is his undying loyalty to Wenger.
Henry the player was a legend and one of the best this country has seen, nothing will change that. His goal against Leeds on his return was one of the most spine-tingling moments I've witnessed on this planet.
But the bloke who insists he is a diehard Arsenal fan like the rest of us yet piously tells the fans to be careful what they wish for? The bloke who fucked off to Barcelona at the first sign of our decline but tells the fans to be content with what we've got, having not challenged for a title in 12 years? A bloke who would have jumped ship long ago if he was still playing yet derides others for not having patience?
That bloke is a complete prick.
Funny how the only two big-name Invincibles who are involved in football yet don't spout constant undeserved platitudes for Wenger are the two who are making a good career for themselves in it rather than just garbling populist crap from a sofa - Bergkamp and Vieira.
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
I loved having TH14 in the team because he was an amazing talent, but I never took to him as a person. I hated the finger to the lips goal 'celebration' and the arrogant stare after some goals.
He'll never have a place in my heart like IWWW or TA6 or GA7.
IWWW?!! Did you ever see Wrighty celebrate a goal or hear the stories oppo centre halves tell about him? Don't get me wrong, Wrighty is still one of my all time favourite Gunners, but let's not kid ourselves he wasn't just as much an arrogant fucker as Henry. The top top strikers usually are.
But Wrighty's celebrations were full off passion and delight (and often a bit mental), None of this 'too cool for school' bullshit that TH14 came up with,
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, I loved Wrighty, and I loved his celebrations but he was an arrogant fucker on the pitch. At that level I reckon you have to be, so I'm loathe to criticise Henry for that. But I never could take to Henry as I did to Wrighty.
Cons - no resale value, name sounds like another word for a hard on., PROFOUNDLY SHIT.
Arsene's decision - PASS.
You left one out, rodders.
To be fair I took it as a given that any striker we are going to be linked with between now and the end of the window will have "profoundly shit" front and centre of their resume
markyp wrote:please guys can we stop slagging off Henry,what do you expect him to say?? that Wenger needs to go ?? hes stuck in the middle here,the only way out is to not be a pundit and that clearly wont happen as he enjoys doing it,direct the hate towards Wenger as this Henry bashing is just pathetic
How is he stuck in the middle? He doesn't work for AFC. He works for Sky.
The job of a pundit is to offer truthful opinions and insights on the game. Not telling the truth because you're mates with somebody or feel loyalty to a player or club is dishonest and a dereliction of your responsibilities.
Someone like Souness is willing to strongly criticise players and clubs he is associated with. Even Carragher does. Neville's a bit more reticent but still more forthright than TH14.
TH14 can't need the money, so why's he there?
For the attention - I don't care who disagrees with me on this, but henry has always been about henry. Despite winning a shed load of trophies with us, he legged it to barca the very minute he felt that we were no longer gonna challenge for the big trophies. Remember his treatment of reyes when a young prince threatened to take his crown ? People with hiv have been shunned and made an outcast less than reyes was by henry
I don't mind him fcuking off to barca back then, but to listen to some of our fans, you would think that he bleeds Arsenal
I loved having TH14 in the team because he was an amazing talent, but I never took to him as a person. I hated the finger to the lips goal 'celebration' and the arrogant stare after some goals.
He'll never have a place in my heart like IWWW or TA6 or GA7.
IWWW?!! Did you ever see Wrighty celebrate a goal or hear the stories oppo centre halves tell about him? Don't get me wrong, Wrighty is still one of my all time favourite Gunners, but let's not kid ourselves he wasn't just as much an arrogant fucker as Henry. The top top strikers usually are.
Wrights celebrations were legendary...such enthusiasm and joy....like his goals
Block93 wrote:Are you telling me that the peerless Guardiola, the best coach in the world, could not find a better defender for £47.5m than John Stones, who can't even get into a very poor England side, and who makes horrendous mistakes on a regular basis? Doesn't that strike you as a little bit odd? I don't recall 'Pep' being a fan of English 'stoppers' in any previous times.
Rob Holding cost £2.5m plus extras (maybe chips all round for the Bolton board), and could well turn out to be the better player.
Wenger is still a total cock, but maybe he's got that one right.
I am sure we will use the £45m saved extremely wisely, though Stan might need a bigger bed to get it all stashed safely under.
I think Stones is so overrated. He was really poor last season and can't believe he went for 47 Million. I'm also ok with the Rob Holding signing as its what George Graham did to build our best ever defence.
I do think you can buy amazing talent from the lower leagues. That said Wenger has killed any hope of Arsenal having a good season by failing to identify and buy a top forward and defender. Fans will go nuts this year and we will lose the good players we have at the end of the season.
Who wants to play for a manager who fails to strengthen the team
Did you ever see Wrighty celebrate a goal or hear the stories oppo centre halves tell about him? Don't get me wrong, Wrighty is still one of my all time favourite Gunners, but let's not kid ourselves he wasn't just as much an arrogant fucker as Henry. The top top strikers usually are.
