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[marcengels]

Happy with the win. Hope it doesn't paper over the cracks.

I've posted before that I believe Cesc will go this summer, won't be properly replaced, with Ramsey taking a bigger role on. They all look good, but it's nowhere near enough to compete properly.

As for Cesc, just remember how many more times we've been toothless without Cesc, than we've been better.

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

[ThomasMitchell]

Loved it ! Simply Loved it,showed all the bottle that has been so lacking.

...when is does not matter. No bottle when it really does though...

[ThomasMitchell]

This sums it up perfectly

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... senal.html

This article is spot one. Says what so many Arsenal supporters are thinking. Wenger will use this result as a comfort blanket and, as so many have said on here, claim that we are only one or two percent away from where we need to be - which is clearly totally deluded.

[FrenchGun]

As many I'm glad we won this game, especially vs. man Ure and in particular against that c*nt Evra always spouting his venom on us!

Every time there was a challenge on him or any time we'd won the ball back, and specially when we scored, I couldn't help myself from yelling at the TV and towards Evra : "How are the kids doing you c*nt?"

Anyway, with the exitation of the game gone, I must say I'm much less satisfied than some of you.

Yes we won vs Man U, and we were able to keep a clean sheet. I'm sorry to say, but except from our goal, we were just playing our usual tippy tappy football with the usual loads of possession but no cutting edge. It's no suprise the goal came from RVP as he's as usual the only one who's ready to take responsabilites and take the risk to make the right move for the goal.

If anything we were just a bit more lucky this time.

Anyway, as has been said earlier, I hope this win won't give Wenger another reason to stick to his guns....

[MK Gould]

Anyway, with the exitation of the game gone, I must say I'm much less satisfied than some of you.

Yes we won vs Man U, and we were able to keep a clean sheet. I'm sorry to say, but except from our goal, we were just playing our usual tippy tappy football with the usual loads of possession but no cutting edge. It's no suprise the goal came from RVP as he's as usual the only one who's ready to take responsabilites and take the risk to make the right move for the goal.

If anything we were just a bit more lucky this time.

Think that's a bit harsh FrenchGun.... Sure, we should have won more comfortably given our dominance but to dominate a game in that way given Utd's recent form (and their last few results against us) deserves more credit than writing it off to luck!

I agree with everything everyone says about the disappointment of not still being in the Premier League race, about papering over the cracks etc etc. But lets take this for what it was. A fucking good perforamance against the team who may well end up as champions of England and Europe by the end of the season. And lets face it, have you ever seen Rooney and Hernandez better shackled than yesterday.....

[Nos89]

This sums it up perfectly

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... senal.html

Absolutely. Was Arsene trying to show us that he can organise a defensive team. If so why didn't he do it when it mattered? Still not totally convinced Wenger can turn it round.

[g88ner]

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

Actually, I think we are close

Yes, ManUre have been poor but the reason we're not top is because we imploded after the Carling Cup final. Yes, that shows a mental weakness within the squad, but if Eboue hadn't gifted Liverpool an equaliser with the last kick of the game, and if Diaby hadn't been sent off at 4-0 against the toon and if we hadn't totally fucked up a 2 goal advantage at home (and to lesser extent away) against Sp*rs, we would probably be in a great position... so, in many ways, we often do the hard part then find a way to fuck it up

That's the frustrating thing, isn't it? not that we're not close to being as good as ManUre, but because we ARE close and fucked it up!

I know we need to improve next season, but it feels to me like this season has been a golden opportunity well and truly missed

[marcengels]

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

Actually, I think we are close

Yes, ManUre have been poor but the reason we're not top is because we imploded after the Carling Cup final. Yes, that shows a mental weakness within the squad, but if Eboue hadn't gifted Liverpool an equaliser with the last kick of the game, and if Diaby hadn't been sent off at 4-0 against the toon and if Nasri had scored against Bolton at 1-1, we would probably be in a great position...

That's the frustrating thing, isn't it? not that we're not close to being as good as ManUre, but because we ARE close and fucked it up!

I know we need to improve next season, but it feels to me like this season has been a golden opportunity well and truly missed

I know what you mean mate, but for me, all those things you list as "if we hadn't" are some of the very reasons why we are not close. But, things look different from different angles.

And you do like your enlarging, don't you!

[g88ner]

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

Actually, I think we are close

Yes, ManUre have been poor but the reason we're not top is because we imploded after the Carling Cup final. Yes, that shows a mental weakness within the squad, but if Eboue hadn't gifted Liverpool an equaliser with the last kick of the game, and if Diaby hadn't been sent off at 4-0 against the toon and if Nasri had scored against Bolton at 1-1, we would probably be in a great position...

That's the frustrating thing, isn't it? not that we're not close to being as good as ManUre, but because we ARE close and fucked it up!

I know we need to improve next season, but it feels to me like this season has been a golden opportunity well and truly missed

I know what you mean mate, but for me, all those things you list as "if we hadn't" are some of the very reasons why we are not close. But, things look different from different angles.

And you do like your enlarging, don't you!

For me, the main difference between us and ManUre is confidence and focus.

We seem to get ourselves into great positions and then either panic or lose focus ending up in throwing away daft points. Solve that, and we're on to something.

Of course, how we find that winning formula is beyond me. I'd say buy a couple of players who have won things and command respect... but sadly, Wenger won't do that so this fantastic team will probably remain "close" but not quite as good as our rivals.

And yes marc, I do like enlarging!

[USMartin]

It was a great result for us, but really changed nothing going into this summer - we still need to make the same changes we needed to make before the kickoff - maybe more now.

As I said last night we missed Cesc badly going forward - not only his final ball but frankly his scoring touch. I mean delighted as I am for Aaron given his circumstances neitther he nor Wilshere is ready to take his goal-scoring role at all and neither is quite there as a passer either. Wothout Cesc unless you can shoe-horn Nasri or even Arshavin into that role I seriously worry we will struggle even more than we have at any time since well 2006 - the last time we sold off the lynchpin in our team.

If we are going to sell Cesc we need to seriously consider either buying a quality like-for-like replacement or going back to a 4-4-2 maybe and giving a run at Moussa Sissoko or a similar type of dynmaic box-to-box player and ball-winner otherwise we are looking at a longer dry spell, and worse possibly more decline in the short term certainly.

[Jumpers For Goalposts]

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

Actually, I think we are close

Yes, ManUre have been poor but the reason we're not top is because we imploded after the Carling Cup final. Yes, that shows a mental weakness within the squad, but if Eboue hadn't gifted Liverpool an equaliser with the last kick of the game, and if Diaby hadn't been sent off at 4-0 against the toon and if we hadn't totally fucked up a 2 goal advantage at home (and to lesser extent away) against Sp*rs, we would probably be in a great position... so, in many ways, we often do the hard part then find a way to fuck it up

That's the frustrating thing, isn't it? not that we're not close to being as good as ManUre, but because we ARE close and fucked it up!

I know we need to improve next season, but it feels to me like this season has been a golden opportunity well and truly missed

That's a whole load of IF's mate. If Blackpool had won a few more games, they'd be in the running for a Europa League place. Trouble is they didn't and all the things you've listed did happen - just like the last 3 seasons.

It was a great win & shows how good we can be but beating Man Ure counts for so much less after we threw away 15 points in the games against Newcastle, Sunderland, WBA, Blackburn, Sp**s, L'pool and Bolton.

[g88ner]

So, as expected a game without pressure and Arsenal win. Unfortunately, the lunatic will see it as us being "close", which unfortunately we are not.

Actually, I think we are close

Yes, ManUre have been poor but the reason we're not top is because we imploded after the Carling Cup final. Yes, that shows a mental weakness within the squad, but if Eboue hadn't gifted Liverpool an equaliser with the last kick of the game, and if Diaby hadn't been sent off at 4-0 against the toon and if we hadn't totally fucked up a 2 goal advantage at home (and to lesser extent away) against Sp*rs, we would probably be in a great position... so, in many ways, we often do the hard part then find a way to fuck it up

That's the frustrating thing, isn't it? not that we're not close to being as good as ManUre, but because we ARE close and fucked it up!

I know we need to improve next season, but it feels to me like this season has been a golden opportunity well and truly missed

That's a whole load of IF's mate. If Blackpool had won a few more games, they'd be in the running for a Europa League place. Trouble is they didn't and all the things you've listed did happen - just like the last 3 seasons.

It was a great win & shows how good we can be but beating Man Ure counts for so much less after we threw away 15 points in the games against Newcastle, Sunderland, WBA, Blackburn, Sp**s, L'pool and Bolton.

Your Blackpool analogy, "If Blackpool had won a few more games, they'd be in the running for a Europa League place" is a bit unfairly dismissive of my point, mate.

I can only take your word as to Blackpool's dropped points, but the "if's" I refer to with Arsenal arr points we lost where we had the game won, i.e. 4-0 at Newcastle before Diaby screwed us over, 1-0 up against Liverpool with 10 seconds left before Eboue screwed us over, and 1-0 up against Sunderland away before Rosicky missed a penalty and Bent scored well over the alloted added time....

Just those extra 6 points would have put is joint top with ManUre, and in no way would have made us a better or worse team than we are today... that's the fine line between winning and coming 2nd or 3rd in this league, so the only point I was making is that we aren't miles away from being as good as ManUre, and with more focus and confidence, this team would possibly have won the league - and maybe even the Carling Cup.

The frustration for me this season, is that I think we let slip a golden opportunity to win the league and the Carling Cup - not because we aren't good enough, but because we inexplicably self destruct when we seem almost sure to win.

Sort that out, and we might have a fighting chance. Not sure Blackpool can say the same of their UEFA Cup chase, can they?

[Peeman]

Just back from the game

Have just watched it again - isn't it great when you have everyone giving 100%.

If,if,if,if,if.............

Hope this doesn't paper over the holes (not the cracks) but over the moon with performance and result. Hope the *word censored* win fuck all wouldn't that be sweet.


Jack Wilshere - OH MY GOD



PS - Evra Evra ur a *word censored*

[Gunnersaurus]

Such an annoying performance as if they played like that through the season then we would have run away with this poor league, great day all the same.

[USMartin]

Just back from the game

Have just watched it again - isn't it great when you have everyone giving 100%.

If,if,if,if,if.............

Hope this doesn't paper over the holes (not the cracks) but over the moon with performance and result. Hope the c**ts win fuck all wouldn't that be sweet.


Jack Wilshere - OH MY GOD



PS - Evra Evra ur a c**t

Think that says it very nicely Peeman