Arsenal v Chavs

[Peeman]

Not even going to bother reading through this, no doubt theres probably the same usual suspects jumping on Ramsey because he misplaced two passes but turning a blind eye to other players doing it.

But fucking hell Mannone

Ramsey has been shite for the last few years though

Disagree mate, I say this in nearly every post about him. In his first two seasons here he was impressive, then he was out for over a year with that injury. Then last season, when not even fully recovered from that leg break, he had to become the main creative player with the loss of our two main ones before him, and with Wilshere and Diaby injured, Denilson on loan, everyone expected alot of him in his first full season back. Some people expect British players to be world class at age 21 and if they're not then they're labelled as shit

For me he is too slow and wants too much time on the ball. When he gets the time he still only looks ok but when he doesn't get the time he looks out of his depth. If he still needs time after the leg break - let him get that time elsewhere on loan, not when we are playing Chelsea (on the wing).

[BournemouthRED]

We always seem to blame the players but we were tactically inept today. I am not Jose Moaninho but if you are unable to organise to defend set pieces and you let the oppo neutralise your 2 best midfielders, Santi and Arteta, then you deserve to lose. Fact!

Agreed, the line up was all wrong to start anyway! Merts should've started, and I don't see why Ramsey started in that front 3!?

Fuck it, can't be arsed to let this spoil my weekend!! Beer o clock

[jamjc64]

Well we have all seen why we will win F all this season. BFG not playing BIG F,ing mistake. We still can not defend. 2points dropped last week and 3 this because of it.

Thank god I am in the Caribbean and I can get another beer at the bar. Oh and jacking in 2 of my season tickets now seems a great idea. UTA or Arsene out ?

keep the faith = keep the mediocrity

[augie]

There is about 8 players and one manager that should be on the **** thread after that load of bollox Jenkinson apart the back 4 were a fcuking disgrace - Gibbs backed off like a rabbit caught in headlights instead of attacking the ball and going to press t.he man and he should have been subbed imo. The 2 cb's were atrocious - Torres on his own made a **** of both of them all day long and I was not a happy man when I heard the team and mertesacker was dropped How can wenger re-instate the whole team that drew with citeeh except the guy who got motm in that game ? Stupid c**t As for the gobshite in goals......Torres scored the 1st goal from the 6yd line and the donkey never even came off his line Of course kos was equally at fault

As for the rest I don't know where to start - we backed off them and allow them to keep possession all day long With the, exception of arteta nobody worked hard enough to close them down. Wenger as usual tries to copy other teams tactics and is now trying the false number 9 formation - a bit of advice for you wenger, when you playing that system then you better have somebody better than the brainless clown to fill that position Of course we had to wait for the 70th minute for the CIC to make his substitutions Please fcuk off back to france and bring your french and French/African sub standard shite with you

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Fucking livid all round at that.

Dropping Mertesacker when he's the one that provides the counterbalance in the partnership with either Kos or Vermaelen. I get the probable lack of pace 'rationale' but without him we just reverted to playing a high line & getting caught out behind anyway. With their line-up we could have done with playing deeper to draw them on to us & then hitting them on the break anyway, surely?

Set-pieces. Bollocks.

Subs. Bollocks. What exactly does that twat Headdie McGoldrick have to do to get taken off? Goal or not he's shite. Three men breaking absolutely clear on the left in the second half so he ambles to the right straight into traffic like a drunk badger. I know it cant be easy for him to lift that whale bollock of a head on his shoulders but for fuck sake. No awareness whatsoever. Throw in Adebayor's understanding of the offside rule & John Leslie's touch and you've got one heck of a player. Still, nice of him to remind us all the reason his head's shaped like a hot air balloon is cos everytime he gets near the box he has a humongous brain fart. *word censored*.

Ramsey. Actually though he was decent enough first half , more so before he moved inside. Second half he reverted back to a waste of space. Pointless lackadaisical passes that offer no progression at all. The movement & positional sense of a bollard in the middle of a motorway – the amount of times he ends up standing 5 yards from the guy on the ball, clogging up space without offering a constructive outlet is shocking. And how do you look that knackered at this stage of the season, at his age, without even having played every game?

Arteta overplaying it on the halfway line & giving the ball away with Vermaelen miles upfield in the build up the 2nd goal. Total opposite of his usual intelligence & awareness.

No urgency in our passing & movement, even at 2-1 down & time running out. Like the lessons of the last 'few' years have never been learned after all. I'll put it down to a bad day at the office given our recent performances but so much of it was so depressingly familiar it's hard not to feel utterly deflated.

Jenkinson & Gibbs were class though. I really didn’t think Gibbs had it in him to learn the art of defending but his progression this season has been outstanding. Still some way to go but fair play.

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

There is about 8 players and one manager that should be on the **** thread after that load of bollox Jenkinson apart the back 4 were a fcuking disgrace - Gibbs backed off like a rabbit caught in headlights instead of attacking the ball and going to press t.he man and he should have been subbed imo.:

I didn't see it that way at all, mate. I thought he was easily one of our better players today & got quite a few good tackles in, throughout the match. Was a bit worried when Podolski was taken off that he'd be exposed but he held his own. In the past he probably would have dived in needlessly but today thought he timed his challenges much better. All a matter of opinion I guess.

Mine being the right one.

[armchair]

I really do fail to see how the AKBs can defend Wenker after that.

Mert dropped
NO striker AGAIN (Until 65 mins wtf?)
NO decent keeper AGAIN
Poor, poor defending AGAIN
Gervinho shite AGAIN
Zero tactics AGAIN. Same old subs at same old time AGAIN
No urgency AGAIN - slow. slow stop AGAIN
Plenty of possession AGAIN

Apart from Gerv and the striker points above we could look at the list and it could be any season for 5 - 6 years ffs
Yet the Board, the pitches, the refs, Man Shitty, ManURE, Chelski, injuries, FFP get blamed.
FFS its fukin WENGER who is dragging us down - him and him alone.

[mcdowell42]

Bad day so far we lose, usa winning ryder cup and my fantasy football team is having a mare reckon that lottery win tonight is not looking good

[augie]

There is about 8 players and one manager that should be on the **** thread after that load of bollox Jenkinson apart the back 4 were a fcuking disgrace - Gibbs backed off like a rabbit caught in headlights instead of attacking the ball and going to press t.he man and he should have been subbed imo.:

I didn't see it that way at all, mate. I thought he was easily one of our better players today & got quite a few good tackles in, throughout the match. Was a bit worried when Podolski was taken off that he'd be exposed but he held his own. In the past he probably would have dived in needlessly but today thought he timed his challenges much better. All a matter of opinion I guess.

Mine being the right one.

How he took off podolski I will never know That useless Klingon shite has to be shipped out asap - a total lack of brains, awareness and skill all combine to make him worse than mcgoldrick ever was imo As for the 100k per week mercenary/ author is def not a footballer and his work effort was a disgrace

[begeegs]

Just got back - Mannone is *****. The first goal should have been his. It wasn't a header and he should be claiming that.

The second goal, Vermaelen did his 'I am a striker' and stayed upfield while no one passed the ball to him or put it in the box, so he has to double back and collects a booking leading to the goal. Mannone should be diving for that regardless if it is wide or not.

Overall - I'd rather see Martinez playing over Mannone. For a big guy, he has no authority in the box.

Also, I wish that our defenders would not bomb forward. It never comes off, so what is the point?

Also, Wenger is completely culpable for not buying a proper replacement for RVP. He should have paid RVP the money and got shot of Walcott.

What's the point of buying a striker and not playing him??

[Clash]

That was fucking shit!

Wenger bleats on about not being able to compete with the likes of Chelsea then drops our best fucking defender this season! It is sabotage. Wenger is the biggest hindrance at this club.

As for being competitve on the pitch that performace today was laughable. When was the last time Chelsea played a team so timid? With 30 mins to go anyone who didnt know the score would think we were 4-0 down not just one goal behind. No drive, no tempo, no idea.

The front players are absolute dross. To have tens of millions sitting in the back and a choice of Gervinho, Giroud or Walcott to play up front is shocking and inept management. That trio of shite should be nowhere a top side and nowhere near a club charging the obscene prices Arsenal do.

A world record for gate receipts for that garbage. The club should be ashamed on themselves but they just dont get it. They think we should be proud of how they run our club. Even though they are ripping us off more and more every year.

Jenkinson aside, everyone out there was dreadful. Whats the excuse? Most of them have had a week off. Where were the fired up set of players we needed for an important game?

We have dropped 9 points already. That is the equivalent of losing 3 games out of 6. Same old story.

Arsenal are just the best of the also rans but they wont challenge for the title. Wenger has too much of a losers mentality for that and he is lacking in too many crucial areas these days.

THE CLUB MUST NOT GIVE HIM A NEW CONTRACT!!!!

[clockender1]

As for Giroud... another chance to clinch vital points in the dying minutes falls to the feet of our £12m striker, and once again, those points disappear with his poor finishing.
- Is Giroud a good striker lacking conifidence?? or just a shite striker? I know some have settled on the latter, but I'll keep hoping he's better than the wasteful shite we've seen from him so far.

Not overly impressed with some others either, but on the whole, regardless of the result, I'm actually quite encouraged by our display today and throughout this season. We work hard as a team, and look focussed and determined to achieve something. Yes, we've fallen foul of some poor finishing and defending of set pieces, and yes, the shadow of RvP continues to loom large, but we're moving on and I'm enjoying this season far more than last, and that's a positive!

Giroud won that header from the corner and hit the post, that other chance was from a wide angle - yes he should of hit it first time. maybe if he was on a roll he may have done.

i am encouraged by our work rate and desire - wenger just made a bad decision with dropping Per and picking Diaby and Ramsay.

our midfield needs to be santi, arteta, ox and Coquelin.

[Clash]

Giroud won that header from the corner and hit the post, that other chance was from a wide angle - yes he should of hit it first time. maybe if he was on a roll he may have done.

i am encouraged by our work rate and desire - wenger just made a bad decision with dropping Per and picking Diaby and Ramsay.

our midfield needs to be santi, arteta, ox and Coquelin.

I didnt see much desire out there today mate. We looked like we knew it was over after their 2nd goal.

Admittedly Chelsea stifled the game but we had no tempo and playing one up front is too easy to defend against. Especially when that one is a clown like Gervinho. Good goal from him but other than that his performance was appalling.

I dont think I can stand a season of Gervinho up front but Wenger has made up his mind thats what its gonna be and we all know how long he sticks with something once he has done that.

[LDB]

The only thing I have to say is why the fuck was Mertesacker dropped?

[RioGooner]

Well, i was wrong, but i feel we lost to our own squad shortcomings, ie. no keeper, no dm, no striker, then being outplayed. They left miles on the flanks and we never properly explored that, when we did, we scored.

I would have gone for vermaelen and kos fearing chelsea's pace as well, tbh, but when the gameplan was to give the ball and sit back, that really made no sense, as we killed their pace.

We trashed Chelsea twice in the last two years by playing a pressing game. We pressed a lot against City. We haven't pressed at all today.

This total lack of common sense, not even big tactic calls, by wenger is so fucking annoying.