The Mesut Özil Thread

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How do you solve a problem like Mesut

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I am going to be the first to admit that I didn't see the point of this signing back in September and was seriously f**ked off we didn't sign a striker, still am. But the way he brought the best out of Rambo, and the team just got such a lift from his presence was amazing. It won me, and I daresay a few on here, over

I worry he is now doing the opposite. The shrugged shoulders, gentle walk back to get behind the ball when HE"S lost it,the oddly disinterested attitude lately is throrughly baffling.

I remember Bobby Pires first season and thinking he was a lazy f**ker but I never actually thought he was disinterested. I also think we could get away with Pires then because the rest of the squad oozed class but now we have a lot of good players with a sprinkling of very good players. He is our only World class player and he should be pulling them up not weighing them down. He feels like a luxury we can't afford in the run in.

It's odd because he is the most naturally talented player we've had since DB10(reading his Bio atm, what a gent). Maybe Per needs to do to him what Tony did for DB10 when he sat next to him on the coach and if I remember this correctly, asked him wasn't it about time he won something here.

I don't know if it would work or he needs a better striker in front of him or Rambo needs to come back or he will get better in the second season but right now the love affair between him and the faithful is seriously starting to sour.

PS: Mods I couldn't find an Ozil thread, hence this one. Feel free to merge them.

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Give him a proper striker to feed goals to. He gone from providing ammo to the likes of Higuain and Ronaldo to trying to link with the likes of Giroud, Bendtner and the French Efan Ekoku. And people wonder why he's struggling!

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Needs a rest and maybe to be put on after 70 mins for a few games. Judge him properly next season when we buy a striker that suits his passing game :barscarf:

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As I said in the match thread the stats show he covered the 3rd most ground out of any player on the pitch tonight. He does care but Wenger's tactics and team selections do nothing to benefit the guy. You don't spend £40m on a world class talent then utilise him incorrectly. We need some pace and directness alongside him and that means playing Oxlade and Podolski on the 2 wings. Give him the freedom to create and he will kill teams. Obviously he should not be the penalty taker but that just suggests to me that no one else in the team is confident enough to step up.

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Well, if you think the "problem" is Mesut, you need taking out back and shooting.

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Should never take penalties for us again. Ever.

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Ballack said on Sky he should be 'untouchable'. I take that as you build your team around him, as your king-pin, and organise accordingly. Even Waddle on 5Live said he needs quick players breaking, that he can thread passes to, and a mobile stiker he can bounce balls off. Without Walcott we have nothing, he becomes just another cog in the tip-tap wheel.

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Last season he had Ronaldo Benzema and Higuian to play balls through to..ever since Rambo got injured(ran into the ground by superboss :roll: ) and Theo got injured aswell, weve had no one making forward runs which has affected his performances.

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Happy Talk wrote:Ballack said on Sky he should be 'untouchable'. I take that as you build your team around him, as your king-pin, and organise accordingly. Even Waddle on 5Live said he needs quick players breaking, that he can thread passes to, and a mobile stiker he can bounce balls off. Without Walcott we have nothing, he becomes just another cog in the tip-tap wheel.
Seeing as he was signed as the window slammed shut on Wenger's fingers you really have to imagine what the point in signing him was. Undoubtedly a quality player, most people thought he wouldn't be and it has turned out as such that he hasn't been the focal point of the team. Based on when he was signed and the squad we had at the time, how could he?

The key for me is what we did to bring the best out of him at the next transfer window. Which was the square root of fuck all. So he's fucked. We're fucked. All into a typical season of mediocraty.

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We are hamstrung by this formation. It seems it makes it impossible to play a 'No.10'?

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Happy Talk wrote:Ballack said on Sky he should be 'untouchable'. I take that as you build your team around him, as your king-pin, and organise accordingly. Even Waddle on 5Live said he needs quick players breaking, that he can thread passes to, and a mobile stiker he can bounce balls off. Without Walcott we have nothing, he becomes just another cog in the tip-tap wheel.
Without Walcott we have players who make runs into space such as The Ox and Gnabry and Podolski, and from deeper we have Ramsey...but.....how often are they fit and even if fit how often are they played instead of more static players?

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Aim for the corner i guess......

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Number 5 wrote:
Happy Talk wrote:Ballack said on Sky he should be 'untouchable'. I take that as you build your team around him, as your king-pin, and organise accordingly. Even Waddle on 5Live said he needs quick players breaking, that he can thread passes to, and a mobile stiker he can bounce balls off. Without Walcott we have nothing, he becomes just another cog in the tip-tap wheel.
Seeing as he was signed as the window slammed shut on Wenger's fingers you really have to imagine what the point in signing him was. Undoubtedly a quality player, most people thought he wouldn't be and it has turned out as such that he hasn't been the focal point of the team. Based on when he was signed and the squad we had at the time, how could he?

The key for me is what we did to bring the best out of him at the next transfer window. Which was the square root of fuck all. So he's fucked. We're fucked. All into a typical season of mediocraty.
Agree with you both. Ozil needs better players around him. We had an opportunity to build a massively successful team around Fabregas and Arsene failed miserably because of his obsession with Le Project... :roll:

Arsene will fail to build a great team around Ozil too, because he cannot accept that his latest brainwave, tippy tappy, doesn't work without having Messi, Iniesta and Xavi in your team... :roll: :|

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Number 5 wrote:Well, if you think the "problem" is Mesut, you need taking out back and shooting.
Glad that further on you actually bothered to have a debate as your first comment was juvenile.

Ozil is talented and has the same problems as Santi has so how come Santi didn't end with the same awful body language. They both came from the same legue and both had better strikers to work with.

He is being poorly used and should never be in the same side as Cazorla but his workrate you have to admit is poor, which is excusable when we are flying but unforgivable when we are struggling.

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