THE WENGER THREAD

[northbank123]

For the first time I actually definitively think that he will be gone.

I am still convinced that the mega bucks new deal is there if he wants it, but equally despite his immense arrogance and Hitler's Bunker-style ignorance of the outside world the bloke will dread the thought of the complete shellacking he is getting from all corners other than our home support carrying on.

[bunch]

Every dictator that has been in power for a long time fears stepping away from that power. For Wenger, he faces the prospect that whoever replaces him will be immediately successful and the 20 years of his Great Leap Forward will be exposed to all, not just us Arsenal fans, for what it really has been, 9 decent years followed by 11 years of failure.

I think he has kept going so long because he wants to top his career off with a title or a CL to head off the negative retrospective on his latter years. But I think he is realising its just not going to happen. He can't do it.

I lost faith in Wenger at the close of the 2010/11 season. That side had only 3 of the players that are in the current squad. The falling away from the league and CL after the Birminham CCup defeat mirrors this season (and others). The common factor: the manager.

[xisstential]

Anybody seen or heard from that new guy??

[rodders999]

How the fuck do you go from "you've never had it so good" to "Arsenal are going backwards under Wenger and he needs to go" in the space of a week?

John Cross is the very definition of a shit no mark hack. No wonder print media is dying on its arse with "insight" like that

Same shit from chief arse licker Keown, said he should stay on football focus last Saturday, 4 days later he should go.

Fucking parasites one and all.

[DB10GOONER]

How the fuck do you go from "you've never had it so good" to "Arsenal are going backwards under Wenger and he needs to go" in the space of a week?

John Cross is the very definition of a shit no mark hack. No wonder print media is dying on its arse with "insight" like that

Same shit from chief arse licker Keown, said he should stay on football focus last Saturday, 4 days later he should go.

Fucking parasites one and all.

Bang on rodders.

And that's why people thinking "media pressure" will see off Wenger are away on one tbh. The fucking fickle piss-hacks that call themselves football "journalists" are flip flopping fickle lying cúnts to a man. Watch John Cross flip flop back to "Wenger is the only option" and "be careful what you wish for you ungrateful bastards" as soon as we put a little run of flat track bully results together.

As for "fan pressure"? Don't make me fucking laugh. A couple of banners and 38 people walking out and some gobshite doing social media stunts is gonna make Wenger suddenly wake up and go "oh hang on. Some Arsenal fans don't like me. I will give up my £8million a year project".

I will offer it out again to anyone interested; €20 that Wenger will still be our manager next season.

[Bob Bayliss]

How the fuck do you go from "you've never had it so good" to "Arsenal are going backwards under Wenger and he needs to go" in the space of a week?

John Cross is the very definition of a shit no mark hack. No wonder print media is dying on its arse with "insight" like that

Same shit from chief arse licker Keown, said he should stay on football focus last Saturday, 4 days later he should go.

Fucking parasites one and all.

Bang on rodders.

And that's why people thinking "media pressure" will see off Wenger are away on one tbh. The fucking fickle piss-hacks that call themselves football "journalists" are flip flopping fickle lying cúnts to a man. Watch John Cross flip flop back to "Wenger is the only option" and "be careful what you wish for you ungrateful bastards" as soon as we put a little run of flat track bully results together.

As for "fan pressure"? Don't make me fucking laugh. A couple of banners and 38 people walking out and some gobshite doing social media stunts is gonna make Wenger suddenly wake up and go "oh hang on. Some Arsenal fans don't like me. I will give up my £8million a year project".

I will offer it out again to anyone interested; €20 that Wenger will still be our manager next season.

Well maybe it needs to be more than "a couple of banners and 38 people walking out". If this doesn't galvanise the fan-base, nothing will. No other top club's fans would put up with this without a serious, co-ordinated series of protests. Let's make it happen. If it doesn't work, what have we lost?

[xgtdec]

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[rodders999]

I'll take you up on that 20 notes bet please, it will pay for my first few drinks the day I get sloshed celebrating his departure

Wenger staying on from here would actually be his "greatest ever achievement", there's absolutely no way back now. He's done. The players have all given up on him, we're struggling through every game no matter the opposition - lost to Watford, 97th minute winner against Burnley, limped past Hull - and all those games were at home. We'll be picked off by all the "big boys" from here on in - no chance of top 4 this season and with all the top 6 still in the cup then we're done with that the very second we get drawn against them.

IT'S OVER......HE'S GOOSE IS COOKED - AU REVOIR

[DB10GOONER]

I'll take you up on that 20 notes bet please, it will pay for my first few drinks the day I get sloshed celebrating his departure

Wenger staying on from here would actually be his "greatest ever achievement", there's absolutely no way back now. He's done. The players have all given up on him, we're struggling through every game no matter the opposition - lost to Watford, 97th minute winner against Burnley, limped past Hull - and all those games were at home. We'll be picked off by all the "big boys" from here on in - no chance of top 4 this season and with all the top 6 still in the cup then we're done with that the very second we get drawn against them.

IT'S OVER......HE'S GOOSE IS COOKED - AU REVOIR

Rodders, take a look back through this forum over the last 8 or so years. How many times has all this been said? How many times has he bounced back? I wish you were right, but he has the luck of the devil, the support of the money-mad owner, and a combination of AKB cult-like worship and too many WOBs that are now just too demotivated to bother protesting and have mostly just stayed away, to be replaced by tourists that don't have the decade's-long emotional investment in the club.

Watch him get the run of results that brings the media back on side.

[Gunner Rob]

It's so true, Wenger has been one of the worst things to happen to Arsenal football club long term. If Wenger wasn't such a slithering snake and had been exposed sooner, say around 2008 when the penny was starting to drop that this guy aint what we all thought, things could have been a lot different. Wenger knew exactly what Stan Kroenke was all about, but got into bed with him at the expense of the club, for his own freedom of the club and monstrous wages. Silent Stan silently ate up all the shares whilst a PR campaign against Usmanov and Red and White Holdings got under way. Even though his old mate Dein was on that side he wasn't interested. That whole situation was fishy anyway in my opinion.

Now Kroenke has his feet well and truly under the table, and his track record in sports 'franchises' proves he is not interested at all in the competitive side of it, just keeping it ticking along for his portfolio of wealth, I really fear for Arsenal. We were so close but ultimately Arsene Wenger had conned us all and is the worst thing that has happened to Arsenal Football Club. Even if we get Allegri, I can see some improvement but not enough to match the improvements are rivals are making. The squad stinks. Our reputation in Europe now is a joke. Can you imagine a Dennis Bergkamp for example choosing to sign for us now? I really hope I'm wrong but I think Kroenke is the worst thing that has happened and Wenger is to blame for facilitating the cloak and dagger way he took over, completely abusing his goodwill with the fans. I just shudder to think there are still fans that back him. Honestly hate the guy now, which I never dreamed of when we were in 98-04.

I just think, If Kroenke was even the slightest bit serious, he would never have given Wenger that extension 2014. No way, it was the same situation as now, nothing changed, only that people have got tired of the repetition. It hasn't suddenly got worse, it's exactly the same. That's when I knew we were doomed. How can we ever get Kroenke to sell up?

a great first post. welcome to the fourm

you are exactly right - things are no better than 2014, it is just that more and more people are just getting fed up with things.
When I came on this forum in about 2012 I actually thought that Kroenke was the biggest problem at the club, but became swayed by the arguments on here that Wenger was the biggest problem. He is and should be the first person to go, but attention should definitely then shift to getting Kroenke out as well. In a way Wenger is the easiest to remove (although it is taking longer than I thought....) Kroenke has been hiding behind Wenger for too long, but when Wenger does go he will be exposed. Be interesting to see what happens next.

[xisstential]

Everybody that has been singing his praises and defending him for years are now suddenly going to be nodding wisely and knowingly saying this feels right, this is the right time to step aside...blah,blah,blah...The Wenger In Brigade are suddenly going to be a tiny minority. Those of us who have wanted him out for close to a decade are suddenly going to have thousands of new "friends" who are going to act like they weren't dragged kicking and screaming to our side of the fence.

[DB10GOONER]

How the fuck do you go from "you've never had it so good" to "Arsenal are going backwards under Wenger and he needs to go" in the space of a week?

John Cross is the very definition of a shit no mark hack. No wonder print media is dying on its arse with "insight" like that

Same shit from chief arse licker Keown, said he should stay on football focus last Saturday, 4 days later he should go.

Fucking parasites one and all.

Bang on rodders.

And that's why people thinking "media pressure" will see off Wenger are away on one tbh. The fucking fickle piss-hacks that call themselves football "journalists" are flip flopping fickle lying cúnts to a man. Watch John Cross flip flop back to "Wenger is the only option" and "be careful what you wish for you ungrateful bastards" as soon as we put a little run of flat track bully results together.

As for "fan pressure"? Don't make me fucking laugh. A couple of banners and 38 people walking out and some gobshite doing social media stunts is gonna make Wenger suddenly wake up and go "oh hang on. Some Arsenal fans don't like me. I will give up my £8million a year project".

I will offer it out again to anyone interested; €20 that Wenger will still be our manager next season.

Well maybe it needs to be more than "a couple of banners and 38 people walking out". If this doesn't galvanise the fan-base, nothing will. No other top club's fans would put up with this without a serious, co-ordinated series of protests. Let's make it happen. If it doesn't work, what have we lost?

Agree absolutely. But I think the problem is that so many of our genuine long-term supporters that want Wenger gone have now been beaten down by the grinding repetitive nature of Groundhog Season and are now just staying away. So where does the protest come from? The tourists, AKBs and day trippers that now populate The Conglomerates at home games? The away fans that get attacked by their fellow supporters for pulling out a banner or have the banner removed by Nazi stewards? The fickle media? The players that owe their unearned huge salaries to Wenger?

I have nothing but respect for the genuine (non attention-seeking) Gooners that have protested and I wish them well in any future protest, but the odds are stacked against them. The owner is happy with Wenger, the majority of our match attending fans still bizarrely support Wenger, and the fickle media bastards will drift back to the Wenger fold after a few good results. The man should be called Arsene Teflon.

[DB10GOONER]

Everybody that has been singing his praises and defending him for years are now suddenly going to be nodding wisely and knowingly saying this feels right, this is the right time to step aside...blah,blah,blah...The Wenger In Brigade are suddenly going to be a tiny minority. Those of us who have wanted him out for close to a decade are suddenly going to have thousands of new "friends" who are going to act like they weren't dragged kicking and screaming to our side of the fence.

I don't think we will have that tbh. But if we did? Great. Does it really matter how they get to the Wenger-Out side of the fence? Not to me. Anything that means he goes is good.

[rodders999]

I'll take you up on that 20 notes bet please, it will pay for my first few drinks the day I get sloshed celebrating his departure

Wenger staying on from here would actually be his "greatest ever achievement", there's absolutely no way back now. He's done. The players have all given up on him, we're struggling through every game no matter the opposition - lost to Watford, 97th minute winner against Burnley, limped past Hull - and all those games were at home. We'll be picked off by all the "big boys" from here on in - no chance of top 4 this season and with all the top 6 still in the cup then we're done with that the very second we get drawn against them.

IT'S OVER......HE'S GOOSE IS COOKED - AU REVOIR

Rodders, take a look back through this forum over the last 8 or so years. How many times has all this been said? How many times has he bounced back? I wish you were right, but he has the luck of the devil, the support of the money-mad owner, and a combination of AKB cult-like worship and too many WOBs that are now just too demotivated to bother protesting and have mostly just stayed away, to be replaced by tourists that don't have the decade's-long emotional investment in the club.

Watch him get the run of results that brings the media back on side.

I know where you're coming from but there's never been discourse like this, it started after the Watford defeat, was ramped up after the surrender at Chelsea and is a runaway train after tonight. When he signed on previously there were only murmurings of discontent, there's a full scale revolution on the horizon this time.

[DB10GOONER]

I'll take you up on that 20 notes bet please, it will pay for my first few drinks the day I get sloshed celebrating his departure

Wenger staying on from here would actually be his "greatest ever achievement", there's absolutely no way back now. He's done. The players have all given up on him, we're struggling through every game no matter the opposition - lost to Watford, 97th minute winner against Burnley, limped past Hull - and all those games were at home. We'll be picked off by all the "big boys" from here on in - no chance of top 4 this season and with all the top 6 still in the cup then we're done with that the very second we get drawn against them.

IT'S OVER......HE'S GOOSE IS COOKED - AU REVOIR

Rodders, take a look back through this forum over the last 8 or so years. How many times has all this been said? How many times has he bounced back? I wish you were right, but he has the luck of the devil, the support of the money-mad owner, and a combination of AKB cult-like worship and too many WOBs that are now just too demotivated to bother protesting and have mostly just stayed away, to be replaced by tourists that don't have the decade's-long emotional investment in the club.

Watch him get the run of results that brings the media back on side.

I know where you're coming from but there's never been discourse like this, it started after the Watford defeat, was ramped up after the surrender at Chelsea and is a runaway train after tonight. When he signed on previously there were only murmurings of discontent, there's a full scale revolution on the horizon this time.

I hope you are right buddy. Christ I do. I just don't see it.