THE WENGER THREAD

[Clash]

As for Graham ... yeah he won all 3 domestic trophies and a European one ... and he almost did the same as an Arsenal player (2 league cup final defeats prevented it). Graham also collected Arsenal memorabilia and immersed himself in the clubs history. In contrast, Wenger's few mentions of the club before he came always seem to have a derogatory tone to them. He really does seem to think he did more for us than we did for him.

And robbed from the Club as a Manager, and left The Arsenal for Man U when Alan Ball came, and managed Tottenham.

F*ck George Graham, and F*ck Arsene Wenger.

P.S. and he got a League Cup Winners Medal, playing for Chelsea. I think Graham doesn't care who he was playing for, as he won all three as a player as well.

And David Rocastle played for Chelsea and Leeds after he left us ... Pat Jennings came from Spurs and went back to Spurs as a coach ... Charlie George has openly admitted he would have signed for Spurs ... where do we draw the line with this one mate?

Graham was far from perfect and managing Spurs wasnt nice. But I try and think of it from their point of view ... they had to get an ex-Arsenal manager in to win them their only trophy in the 17 years between 1991 and 2008. They must have hated that

P.S. Never knew that about Graham and Chelsea : )

[Babu]

The thought of Arsene and Arsenal PR department driving Sanchez out of the club because of HIS own inadequacies make me so fucking angry...


...would Barcelona drop Messi and then jog him on because he was angry about it?

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't drop Messi, but they certainly got rid of Sanchez quickly enough. Just a thought!

Yeah point taken but that was because they had Messi,Neymar and Bucktooth C*nt up front,when Sanchez cannot get in ahead of Giroud,Walcott and Perez somethings wrong.

Something is wrong, that's for sure!

The thing with the Barcelona deal was that Barca were sure that Suarez was coming to them from Liverpool, and had to move one of the players on...or find a way of playing with 4 at the front - which could have been WOW, but anyway, they had Messi and Neymar and Sanchez, and Sanchez was chosen.
Of course I don't know why Sanchez went.
Could he not handle the thought of only being 4th best/whatever, but fact is that he came here and Barca ended up winning the Treble. Also there was the whole Barcelona transfer problem, so there's a number of factors as to why Sanchez went when and where he did, but fact is he is not a happy bunny at the moment.

Is that down to Wenger, or the squad he is playing with, or just one individual player, or the delay with his wage demands. Or maybe Juve aren't willing to pay him enough?

Sorry for rambling on a bit. Nervous about tonight.

So why do I think Sanchez is not happy?

Because he has a complete f.uckw.it of a manager, quite clearly.

[Ed Hunter The Gooner]

Best pro Wenker shit I've seen for a long time. This piece of gold is from Twitter.


@ArsenalGuvnor

Based on points per squad cost top 6 currently looks like -

1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. City
5. Liverpool
6. United

#OneArseneWenger

[Babu]

And David Rocastle played for Chelsea and Leeds after he left us ... Pat Jennings came from Spurs and went back to Spurs as a coach ... Charlie George has openly admitted he would have signed for Spurs ... where do we draw the line with this one mate?

Graham was far from perfect and managing Spurs wasnt nice. But I try and think of it from their point of view ... they had to get an ex-Arsenal manager in to win them their only trophy in the 17 years between 1991 and 2008. They must have hated that

P.S. Never knew that about Graham and Chelsea : )

George Graham is my favourite ever Arsenal manager. He gave me some brilliant moments.
But he was a bit of a c.unt as well. Sadly.

He is also responsible for spoiling a "Historic" moment in my life.

He scored 2 goals in a 2-1 win at Highbury, which was the first Arsenal home game after I was born.

Why "spoiled"?

Because he was playing for Chelsea on that day!


P.S. Agreed re thfc...that league cup final win is something I mention every now and then...

P.P.S. Rocky = One of our Own, Pat Jennings = THFC, no doubt, although I loved him.

[Redarmy]

And David Rocastle played for Chelsea and Leeds after he left us ... Pat Jennings came from Spurs and went back to Spurs as a coach ... Charlie George has openly admitted he would have signed for Spurs ... where do we draw the line with this one mate?

Graham was far from perfect and managing Spurs wasnt nice. But I try and think of it from their point of view ... they had to get an ex-Arsenal manager in to win them their only trophy in the 17 years between 1991 and 2008. They must have hated that

P.S. Never knew that about Graham and Chelsea : )

George Graham is my favourite ever Arsenal manager. He gave me some brilliant moments.
But he was a bit of a c.unt as well. Sadly.

He is also responsible for spoiling a "Historic" moment in my life.

He scored 2 goals in a 2-1 win at Highbury, which was the first Arsenal home game after I was born.

Why "spoiled"?

Because he was playing for Chelsea on that day!


P.S. Agreed re thfc...that league cup final win is something I mention every now and then...

P.P.S. Rocky = One of our Own, Pat Jennings = THFC, no doubt, although I loved him.

agree about Rocky, Charlie George went to Derby but will always be Arsenal at heart....as for Jennings never took to him TBH
Seriously at the end of the day these guys are professionals securing contracts to look after there families, thats why all that badge kissing is crap

[robbo10]

The thought of Arsene and Arsenal PR department driving Sanchez out of the club because of HIS own inadequacies make me so fucking angry...


...would Barcelona drop Messi and then jog him on because he was angry about it?

Maybe Barcelona wouldn't drop Messi, but they certainly got rid of Sanchez quickly enough. Just a thought!

Yeah point taken but that was because they had Messi,Neymar and Bucktooth C*nt up front,when Sanchez cannot get in ahead of Giroud,Walcott and Perez somethings wrong.

Something is wrong, that's for sure!

The thing with the Barcelona deal was that Barca were sure that Suarez was coming to them from Liverpool, and had to move one of the players on...or find a way of playing with 4 at the front - which could have been WOW, but anyway, they had Messi and Neymar and Sanchez, and Sanchez was chosen.
Of course I don't know why Sanchez went.
Could he not handle the thought of only being 4th best/whatever, but fact is that he came here and Barca ended up winning the Treble. Also there was the whole Barcelona transfer problem, so there's a number of factors as to why Sanchez went when and where he did, but fact is he is not a happy bunny at the moment.

Is that down to Wenger, or the squad he is playing with, or just one individual player, or the delay with his wage demands. Or maybe Juve aren't willing to pay him enough?

Sorry for rambling on a bit. Nervous about tonight.

So why do I think Sanchez is not happy?

Because he has a complete f.uckw.it of a manager, quite clearly.

Because Sanchez is a winner and Wenger accepts 2nd/3rd/4th best,and to Sanchez that's not acceptable,or so it seems,we'll never know the truth,Arsene's PR department will see to that,but I'm sure Wenger is wholly to blame,for the players he buys to the under-performing players he continues to pick,to his woeful tactics and his poor motivation of his teams,I'd love to see Sanchez stay but I would be amazed if he does,and that's down to Wenger,I think Sanchez would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing,but to be dropped for the Liverpool game must have destroyed his pride,and thats why I think he'll be gone.

I don't think even if we offered him his asking price he'll stay now,I think the damage is done,

[DB10GOONER]

Best pro Wenker shit I've seen for a long time. This piece of gold is from Twitter.


@ArsenalGuvnor

Based on points per squad cost top 6 currently looks like -

1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. City
5. Liverpool
6. United

#OneArseneWenger

Well, that's me placated.

#pointspersquadbeatstrophies

[Babu]

Because Sanchez is a winner and Wenger accepts 2nd/3rd/4th best,and to Sanchez that's not acceptable,or so it seems,we'll never know the truth,Arsene's PR department will see to that,but I'm sure Wenger is wholly to blame,for the players he buys to the under-performing players he continues to pick,to his woeful tactics and his poor motivation of his teams,I'd love to see Sanchez stay but I would be amazed if he does,and that's down to Wenger,I think Sanchez would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing,but to be dropped for the Liverpool game must have destroyed his pride,and thats why I think he'll be gone.

I don't think even if we offered him his asking price he'll stay now,I think the damage is done,

Agreed totally on Wenger, have no fear.

As for "destroying his pride", not so sure.
If Arsenal had won 3-0, then probably, but it was clear to everyone that when Sanchez came on we played better, so I think Sanchez won that one pretty clearly. Think that did wonders for his pride!

Also not sure whether he would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing. I would go mad playing with these bottlers.

I think he'll go, but where will he go?

Juve? Maybe, but not sure who the manager will be, and does he want to go back to Juve after Udinese? If he has any heart then he must know that going to Juve is the c.untiest thing you can do.
Germany? Well, there's only Bayern, and they don't need him?
Back to Spain? Well, there you have another problem. Where to, if not Barca? And do Barca want him back.

Questions, questions.

But Wenger, yes, he's made this mess with his whole attitude. He is a fraud. Always was. I'm glad people are seeing it now.

[Wilson]

Loans were taken out, corporate bonds were issued. Apartments were build and sold. Ticket prices were hiked substantially. Thats how we built the stadium. It was financed by banks, bond buyers, and the payments on those debt obligations were paid by income from gate revenue. Thats pretty much how major infrastructure projects are built. Borrowed money, with the build object acting as a revenue stream to finance interest payments on loans and bonds. You build an office building, you rent the space out, get the money - use it to pay off interests payments on issued debt.

There is nothing unique about the building of the Emirates that we can be attributed personally to Wenger.

'Wenger built the stadium' is another intellectually bankrupt cliche.

Well put. You'd think he paid for it out of his own pocket the way some people go on!, and lets be honest in a footballing sense the Emirates has not been a success yet and the atmosphere is dreadful, Wenger was apparently involved in the design so we can put some blame on him for that as well.

It all stems from too much power being handed to one man, that is why I blame the board just as much as Wenger, it's all very well saying they handed him the money (it was not their money anyway) but they have absolutely no vision for the club other than it making money, Wenger out yes obviously, Kroenke out is even more important long term.

Indeed. One of the buggest criticism of the Olympic stadium, is the space between the first row seat and the pitch. Whose idea to place so much space, between the seats behind the goal from the actual pitch?

[sk-gtfo]

Because Sanchez is a winner and Wenger accepts 2nd/3rd/4th best,and to Sanchez that's not acceptable,or so it seems,we'll never know the truth,Arsene's PR department will see to that,but I'm sure Wenger is wholly to blame,for the players he buys to the under-performing players he continues to pick,to his woeful tactics and his poor motivation of his teams,I'd love to see Sanchez stay but I would be amazed if he does,and that's down to Wenger,I think Sanchez would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing,but to be dropped for the Liverpool game must have destroyed his pride,and thats why I think he'll be gone.

I don't think even if we offered him his asking price he'll stay now,I think the damage is done,

Agreed totally on Wenger, have no fear.

As for "destroying his pride", not so sure.
If Arsenal had won 3-0, then probably, but it was clear to everyone that when Sanchez came on we played better, so I think Sanchez won that one pretty clearly. Think that did wonders for his pride!

Also not sure whether he would tolerate our gutless performances if he was playing. I would go mad playing with these bottlers.

I think he'll go, but where will he go?

Juve? Maybe, but not sure who the manager will be, and does he want to go back to Juve after Udinese? If he has any heart then he must know that going to Juve is the c.untiest thing you can do.
Germany? Well, there's only Bayern, and they don't need him?
Back to Spain? Well, there you have another problem. Where to, if not Barca? And do Barca want him back.

Questions, questions.

But Wenger, yes, he's made this mess with his whole attitude. He is a fraud. Always was. I'm glad people are seeing it now.

Can see him going to Atletico to replace Griezmann when he joins Man Utd. I don't know why people keep saying how great this squad is, without Ozil and Sanchez it looks not much better than some higher midtable teams like Everton/Southampton with a bit more depth. Wenger is not leaving Arsenal in a great place like some like to make out.

[NickF]

Indeed. One of the buggest criticism of the Olympic stadium, is the space between the first row seat and the pitch. Whose idea to place so much space, between the seats behind the goal from the actual pitch?

Wasn't one of the conditions that the stadium is still used for athletics?
Reminds me of the old away end at Stamford Bridge, you were miles from the pitch.

[Wilson]

Check this fuking rubbish out

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ul-9981314

[DB10GOONER]

Indeed. One of the buggest criticism of the Olympic stadium, is the space between the first row seat and the pitch. Whose idea to place so much space, between the seats behind the goal from the actual pitch?

Wasn't one of the conditions that the stadium is still used for athletics?
Reminds me of the old away end at Stamford Bridge, you were miles from the pitch.

Correct.

[DB10GOONER]

Check this fuking rubbish out

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ul-9981314

John Cross is a fucking moron. He implies we should dislike Sanchez because he wants to win? Because he has a pop at his under-performing team mates? We should give Sanchez the fucking captain's armband! Oh, that's right, the armband doesn't mean shit under Arsene PLC.

This fucking idiot propagandist Cross has sucked up the Pravda disinformation campaign hook line and sinker. I suggested it a couple days ago and now I'm convinced; Sanchez has told Wenger he is off. Pravda have started the sneaky bastard "Sanchez was a bad egg" smear campaign, and so we cannot blame Wenger for losing ANOTHER top player.

[Allgunsblazin]

Best pro Wenker shit I've seen for a long time. This piece of gold is from Twitter.


@ArsenalGuvnor

Based on points per squad cost top 6 currently looks like -

1. Arsenal
2. Chelsea
3. Spurs
4. City
5. Liverpool
6. United

#OneArseneWenger

Well, that's me placated.

#pointspersquadbeatstrophies

And how many trophies do that squad put in the fucking cabinet...?
Jesus Mary and fecking Joseph give me a darkened room, we shop at Lidl with the exception of a couple!, and Wenger still fucking pays over the odds for 3rd rate Foreign Fucking Legionaires!, journeymen who cannot believe their fucking luck, paid a kings ransom and the League table does not lie, we will be lucky to get 6th...