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So arsenal lost to Stoke....they are definitely out of the championship race ( according to the wise sages of this idiotic world). The theory was that the Big 4 or 5 will not lose points to the bottom teams. Spurs go on to beat Liverpool and no top analyst says Liverpool's season is over because they have lost one game, they also happened to draw with Stoke which is 2 points dropped according to the title winning theory. Man U drew with Newcastle and Everton teams that Arsenal soundly beat but they are still considered strong title favorites and that is after 10 games. Given Arsenal lost a few games but they still have a chance to win the league if they win a lot of the games left ( not all ) . Man U, Chelsea will all drop points to some teams in the league and Arsenal can still win the league. Arsenal dont have a defensive midfielder according to most people but in a tournament including Yaya Toure, Alex Song of Arsenal was considered the best defensive midfielder in The African Nations cup making the team of the tournament. Man U and Chelsea could not win at Fenerbache and Arsenal did that and their season is still considered pear shaped. There is a reason why most of these commentators and other so called experts are not coaches...as we like to say in South Africa >>They dont know fokol. Arsene Wenger is a top coach,
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you cant judge him over a few gamesGoonerN5 wrote:Cesc might be burnt out, but to say Song is under played is wrong, if he plays one game for us then hes over played, he is shit and isnt good enought for a team supposedly challenging for the title
give him a chance like bentner has had
bentner has proved without all reasonable doubt he worse than c wreh upfront
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Rob, good post.Rob wrote:Firstly, I'm impressed that you've been supporting Arsneal for 10 years longer than I have !![]()
But I don't accept some of your other points.
Whether Wenger is or is not a 'genius' is questionable. What is not in dispute that his 'genius touch' - if he so possesses it, has deserted him the last three years.
I don't think any of us feel that we have a divine right to win anything but that argument is a smokescreen.
The anger and hostility felt on here is anger directed rightly at the Manager for his insane refusal to strenthen our squad, when key and experienced players leave. Coupled with his blatently false and patronising miss-statements about this being the best squad of players he's ever had. All evidence shows this not to be so.
I have never actually bood an Arsenal player and still won't. But I do understand the gut feelings of anger at players who demonstably don't try. That is the worse crime bar none and always has been.
The difference is that when you and I started watching football, the players whilst hardly paupers, were on a credible salary level that was not demonstably off the planet as far as most supporters were concerned.
Today players from all teams come over as greedy, selfish, arrogant bores, interested in their own pockets and milking the clubs and therfore the fans for all they can get, whilst putting - in some cases - the minimum effort in.
Under such circumstances I can fully see why Gooners forking out a small fortune - to them - to go up to Stoke and be presented with that dross, vented their feelings.
Support is not unconditional, least of all when we are forking out one, two, or three thousand pounds, to watch these chancers; as opposed to turning up on the day and paying £2.
Like you I will be behind the team on Wednesday and Saturday but this club and it's Manager have an awful lot of soul searching to do.
Bluntly, I think Wenger has lost the dressing room and the players respond - or don't respond - accordingly.
The next month will see if that is so.
I have have mentioned elsewhere I seen some pretty mean times at Highbury. I am certainly told people never to boo the team, but cheer them on, but in this day(high wages,etc,etc) and age fans find it more difficult.
My real concern, is that this could do REAL damage to some of our young team. Not sure if others saw the look in the eyes or on the faces of most of the young team last night??
Let's bloody hope for some good play from the team and old fashion thunder in the tackles on Saturday...!

