Bendtner

gus ceasar is a legend · Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:53 pm

Sorry but that is such a flimsy arguement.

You are ignoring obvious facts such as ball control and lack of vision. Also the fact that Bendtner plays in advance of Van Persie or whoever he is paired with such as yesterday.

I won't argue anymore......there is no arguement in the first place and this is nearly as daft as someones suggestion that Sagna is the answer in midfield!

Let's just agree he is not good enough for Arsenal!

hugh jardon · Post by **hugh jardon** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:39 pm

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:40 pm

My argument is not flimsy Gus,it is just that you disgaree with my point of view.

It is ridiculous for Bendtner to play in advance of RvP in a 4-4-2, I would only make Bendtner the front man in 4-5-1.

RvP is a snapshot goal scorer, flick out his chocolate leg and smack the ball in the net.

He is not a number 10, his deeper play is poor because although he has great ball control, he too often slows the move down or switches the ball from one leg to another, to the extent that the move breaks down or he is dispossesed, and he also lacks pace to keep a fast switch passing move productive.

Bendtner however will slow the move down but the other players will know this and not expect anything else of him, and so run around off him, thereby making the slowing down a positive, in fact one of the few positives, in Bendtner's game.

He does have the vision to play the through ball, but we will have to disagree on that.

I do agree with you that we should sell him this month.

Wayno · Post by **Wayno** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:22 pm

Bendtner is a *word censored* and thats final, no other opinion can possibly be taken seriously, the quicker we sell him before everyone else realises that he is a *word censored* the better.

augie · Post by **augie** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:47 pm

I used to stand up for him but now I have added him to the list of *word censored* that I want gone asap (the others on that list are greedybollix,song, silvestre,song,gallas,song,almunia and song

)

stg · Post by **stg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:02 am

Just so I know how long do we now give players before we decide that they are c***s?

Is it
a-1 season
b-2 seasons
c-half a season
d-When you jump on a bandwagon against a player

Post by **REB** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:09 am

only time needed is when the said player is not good enough to play for the arsenal, we have had plenty down the years who weren't the most skillful but at least had heart and wanted to play for the arsenal, if a player tries and proves to the fans that he wants the shirt then no one will say anything bad but the likes of bendtner have no heart and no passion for the shirt and that is why they are not liked

Number 5 · Post by **Number 5** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:30 am

Meds wrote: What annoys most about him is:
His lack of trying
He always gives the impression that he doesnt give a shit
He always drifts to the left or right like henry used to
He cant shoot,pass or even control
He should be in the box to attack any cross

Doesn't this sound like somebody else in the squad currently picking up about 80 grand a week? In fact most of the comments made about Bendtner I think could be easily replaced in an Adebayor thread. We'd be better off selling his ass for Â£20m and keeping Bendtner who might fetch Â£5-7M as we'd have the exact same front man plus a few million extra in the bank not to spend on a quality striker.

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:31 am

I agree with Rebel, Bendtner shows no desire at all. He does not know what a priviledge it is to wear an Arsenal shirt. The sooner the twat goes, the better.

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:31 am

stg wrote:Just so I know how long do we now give players before we decide that they are c***s?

Is it
a-1 season
b-2 seasons
c-half a season
d-When you jump on a bandwagon against a player

In my previous post I labelled a few of our players as *word censored* and I was out of order except in the following cases -

greedybayor is a pure and utter *word censored* for the way he treated the club and the fans all summer and for the fact that he way way overestimates his quality and ranking as a striker in the footballing world

Song is a useless useless *word censored* that cannot run, cannot tackle and cannot pass and has the footballing brain of a rocking horse

I do not give a shit how bad our team gets, and it is fairly bad at the mo, but this *word censored* still isnt good enough to play for us and I wish he would take his ass and those stupid high fives (the match v the scum is still in my mind sorry

) back to cameroon or france so that I never have to look at him in our famous red & white, sorry I mean all red jersey ever again.

The other players I listed I shouldnt have slated like I did - they are not good enough to represent our club so I am frustrated that they are doing so but probably dont deserve to be labelled as *word censored* although bedtner is an arrogant *word censored* mind

Swale_Gooner1985 · Post by **Swale_Gooner1985** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:33 am

Personally i like him, and think he will improve as a player, he looks like a player who needs a goal though, someone who plays on his confidence!

I think the fans are far too quick to get on a players back, he is a 20 year old lad, he needs a lot more time, as somebody pointed out, there have been several players over the years who have drifted in and out of games when they were at that age.

Against Pompey i thought i he played well, having been at the game, then watching it on football first and then Arsenal TV replay, he dropped deep, looked for the ball, his passing was good, he was inventive, I think he looks good when he drops off and gets the ball deep.

Lets face it Van Persie is the only forward we have got thats in FORM at the moment, Bendtner and Adebayor arent setting the world alight at the moment but that doesnt mean they are shit!

Im looking forward to Bendtner developing as a player even further and really hope the lad does well, he doesnt need idiots booing him and on his back as soon as he mis-places a pass!

stg · Post by **stg** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:33 am

So how many of the current Arsenal squad play for the shirt? infact if you look around the top 4 or 5 how many of those players play for the shirt?

Gerrard, Carrigher, Neville, Rooney, Fabregas, Clichy, Toure, Terry, Lampard, Barry probably a couple more. Looking at that list of players
1-apart for the Arsenal players they are English
2-you would say they are l'poo, chelsea, man u, villa players through and through. But didnt Gerrard want to leave, didnt Terry say he would leave unless they paid him XÂ£'s , didnt Lampard want the same deal as JT or he would of gone, didnt Barry want to go to L'poo?
3-I would expect most of those players to play the same way know matter who they play for.

So I dont think they play for the shirt know matter how much badge kissing goes on. They play that way because thats the way they play, the days of playing for the shirt have passed, Ashley Cole is a prime example he should of died in an Arsenal shirt he should of given everything and a bit more. He came through the ranks was a junior gunner he was an Arsenal supporter. But when it came down to the end he was playing for money nothing else not for the love of the club, shirt, fans just himself. If you look around the PL there are many like him Defoe, Bentley, Ady even Owen.

So instead of just looking for Bendtners bad points and saying he doesnt play for the shirt. Try re-watching games look at the work he does when he doesnt have the ball then watch Ady and tell me who works harder for the team

Swale_Gooner1985 · Post by **Swale_Gooner1985** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 9:40 am

Really nice and Very true post!

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 10:50 am

stg wrote:Just so I know how long do we now give players before we decide that they are c***s?

Is it
a-1 season
b-2 seasons
c-half a season
d-When you jump on a bandwagon against a player

There are certain players you can see after 10 games they are c***s.The likes of Stephanovs.Baptista,Jeffers and Cygan

But its players like Eboue and Bendtner who get worse the more games they play that make me angry

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:13 pm

stg wrote:So how many of the current Arsenal squad play for the shirt? infact if you look around the top 4 or 5 how many of those players play for the shirt?

Gerrard, Carrigher, Neville, Rooney, Fabregas, Clichy, Toure, Terry, Lampard, Barry probably a couple more. Looking at that list of players
1-apart for the Arsenal players they are English
2-you would say they are l'poo, chelsea, man u, villa players through and through. But didnt Gerrard want to leave, didnt Terry say he would leave unless they paid him XÂ£'s , didnt Lampard want the same deal as JT or he would of gone, didnt Barry want to go to L'poo?
3-I would expect most of those players to play the same way know matter who they play for.

So I dont think they play for the shirt know matter how much badge kissing goes on. They play that way because thats the way they play, the days of playing for the shirt have passed, Ashley Cole is a prime example he should of died in an Arsenal shirt he should of given everything and a bit more. He came through the ranks was a junior gunner he was an Arsenal supporter. But when it came down to the end he was playing for money nothing else not for the love of the club, shirt, fans just himself. If you look around the PL there are many like him Defoe, Bentley, Ady even Owen.

So instead of just looking for Bendtners bad points and saying he doesnt play for the shirt. Try re-watching games look at the work he does when he doesnt have the ball then watch Ady and tell me who works harder for the team

true but I dont think he deserves to get played over rvp, ady and vela. He would probably make a good target man but refuses to play that way eventhough atm his height is the best thing going for him, he trys to play like vela but he has not got the speed or dribbling ability and needs to work on his touch. His lack of composure when it comes to one on ones was evident in the game against burnley and another load of matches. I dont like saying this about Arsenal players but I would like to see him leave.