I Don't Get Diaby

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rodders999 wrote:Denilson having his best game for us???? :shock:

Once more he was apalling. When he did actually try and pass the ball forward, shock fucking horror, he passed to a Spuds player EVERY time. He was invisible in midfield as usual with players ghosting past him as he pulled out of the tackles. Simlply not good enough for Arsenal.
we must have watched two different games, as i saw diaby and denilson totally boss the midfield. the only time spurs got the ball was when they managed to break down an attack of ours and even then they didn't have the ball for long. granted, denilson is not a first team player for arsenal but we could have worse in the squad.

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Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.

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franksav63 wrote:Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.
He slows the play down along with Denilson.

I think if you look at the speed with which we played during the 07/08, that is what should be cutting about our play. Hi-tempo, good passing, quick on the break. This version is really pedestrian, and gets found out by half-capable teams.

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marcengels wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.
He slows the play down along with Denilson.

I think if you look at the speed with which we played during the 07/08, that is what should be cutting about our play. Hi-tempo, good passing, quick on the break. This version is really pedestrian, and gets found out by half-capable teams.
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Gunner152 wrote:
rodders999 wrote:Denilson having his best game for us???? :shock:

Once more he was apalling. When he did actually try and pass the ball forward, shock fucking horror, he passed to a Spuds player EVERY time. He was invisible in midfield as usual with players ghosting past him as he pulled out of the tackles. Simlply not good enough for Arsenal.
we must have watched two different games, as i saw diaby and denilson totally boss the midfield. the only time spurs got the ball was when they managed to break down an attack of ours and even then they didn't have the ball for long. granted, denilson is not a first team player for arsenal but we could have worse in the squad.

Boss the midfield?, I'm not so sure. Yes, we had shit loads of possession as the Spuds sat off us but they were happy to see Diaby or Denilson pass the ball to each other over and back with zero penetration. They created nothing between them going forward and offered little cover to the center backs either. AND neither showed the heart and desire of the 35 yeard old bloke palying behind them.

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franksav63 wrote:
marcengels wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.
He slows the play down along with Denilson.

I think if you look at the speed with which we played during the 07/08, that is what should be cutting about our play. Hi-tempo, good passing, quick on the break. This version is really pedestrian, and gets found out by half-capable teams.
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Agreed. And Walcott was right to ask him to release the ball earlier.

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diaby will always br useless because like superboots wallshite he lacks the one thing you need to be a top player in a top team, a football brain. he also has no heart to make up for that loss. he like wallcot is a loser and always will be. all the skill in the world wont help. ask the world keepy up champion

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Boomer wrote:
franksav63 wrote:
marcengels wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.
He slows the play down along with Denilson.

I think if you look at the speed with which we played during the 07/08, that is what should be cutting about our play. Hi-tempo, good passing, quick on the break. This version is really pedestrian, and gets found out by half-capable teams.
Yes, in one sir.
Agreed. And Walcott was right to ask him to release the ball earlier.
Yes Boomer, I mentioned this on another thread. There was some friction, and I agree Walcott had made the run and Diaby just didnt have the speed of thought to make the pass.

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Gunner152 wrote:Seriously, i don't.

this is not a slate him thread it's just an honnest enquiry.

i have been watching Diaby play for Arsenal for a long time now and i can honenstly say i don't get him. is he suppose to me an attacking midfielder, a defensive midfielder, the new PV, a wide player, holding CM, play in the middle??

i honnestly don't know. apart form the tackle he made to set up the goal last night i was convinced he didn;t know what a tackle was. his bal;l retention was piss poor, his ball distribution was horrible, his passing was *****, and his overall performance was poor i felt.

i just would like to know what Wenger sees him as long term as i really think he is struggle to tread water at Arsenal.
Best game I've seen from him was the Carling Cup Final, where he played left midfield in a 442. Up until he volleyed Terry in the face he was quite awesome. He does play better in that position. It was the LM role Grimandi spotted him playing for Auxerre (?). From what I've seen the 433 doesn't work for him as he seems to be a player that just needs to concentrate on one job. In the 433 formation he has to play 3 roles and doesn't know what to do that's where he dithers and slows down. We tend to forget footballers really are quite simply. I reckon Diaby isn't the brightest on the pitch, so tell him to stay on LM get ball, get down the wing cross or cut inside, track back, he'll be brilliant every time. It's just who has ever seen a 6ft 4ins LM?

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marcengels wrote:
Boomer wrote:
franksav63 wrote:
marcengels wrote:
franksav63 wrote:Diaby is not the right type of player for our team. He hangs onto the ball far too long, and we can't break forward at speed with him in our team make up.

Diaby is by far the biggest culprit that we have currently in our team, for having to beat at least one man before he eventually lays the ball off. Our whole game plan is for pass, pass and then pass again, thread the ball through an eye of a needle, against massed ranks.

Wenger has got to seriously sort this out, or again, next season, we will fall short when we actually play top quality teams. (I don't obviously count Spuds as one of these teams, but with the players we had out, and the very average players, we had in their places, it was defintely a leveller imo.
He slows the play down along with Denilson.

I think if you look at the speed with which we played during the 07/08, that is what should be cutting about our play. Hi-tempo, good passing, quick on the break. This version is really pedestrian, and gets found out by half-capable teams.
Yes, in one sir.
Agreed. And Walcott was right to ask him to release the ball earlier.
Yes Boomer, I mentioned this on another thread. There was some friction, and I agree Walcott had made the run and Diaby just didnt have the speed of thought to make the pass.
I’m no fan of Walcott but that pissed me off too. How Diaby had the nerve to throw up his arms in disgust & go into a strop at Walcott given the Bacon McJobby sandwich he was slap bang in the middle of serving up is beyond me. Likewise when Campbell was trying to rally everybody just after we went 2-0 down & they had a corner, Diaby looked totally non-plussed. Maybe the camera angle made it look like he was closer to Sol than he really was & fair enough his whole demeanour is naturally languid but he really looked like he just didn’t give a shit. Mourinho could probably make him a top player, but Wenger’s softly softly approach clearly isn’t doing Diaby or us any favours. He should’ve long since had Wenger’s foot shoved far enough up his arse to use his toenails as a toothpick but you get the impression he’ll just coast along aimlessly as long as he’s allowed & doesn’t really care about fulfilling his own potential.

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Top stuff IU4 :lol: The toothpick bit...nicely done 8)

The big frustration is what you mention at the end...the potential. It was easier to pigeon-hole players like McGoldrick cos they were just shit, full-stop. With Diaby, he's got the talent but there is so little end product, and so little energy, that you want to rip your own head off, just so that youve got something to throw at him, in an attempt to wake him up.

:roll: :lol:

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hes thick, thats all there is to get.

his brain is to small to cope with the movement and speed of his teammates and the oppo at the top level

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