As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
PI7ES wrote:Would you be happy with a totall unknown savic coming in for a injured player at old trafford?
No me either, we must have 4 proven quality CB's all the other top four sides do.
isn't rafael playing for united even though he's just 19 and we will have Sol if Wengers not ready to take the risk with Savic
rafael has been at united for a few years now and has been blended in to a very experienced team, however if everyone is fit he would probably be 3rd or 4th choice right back.
Im talking CB which in my opinion is very much an area where proven quality is needed. Buying youngsters and throwing them in isnt working for us winning trophies, yes in the long run it will make them better players but this doesnt win us trophies.
We have enough young CB's in the youth and reserve teams bartley and ayling just to name two why do we need more.
digger wrote:You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.
Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.
I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)
That's £40m already
Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on
No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.
Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.
The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..
I thought Wenger was linked with that Blaise Matuidi last year? At least Matuidi issued some sort of 'come and get me' statement. He's since signed a new deal but he's 22 yr old (good age for AW) and is very talented. he'd be a better recruit than the more expensive Melo/Veloso.
Don't think Hangeland is worth the money Woy Hodgson would want. Seen alot more of him this year and he hasn't really impressed me.
Neven Subotic from Dortmund? He might be good. Also young but has good experience.
But I think a keeper will be more likely brought in.
Wouldn't mind Robert Green, but it looks like Spammers are staying up so they'll lob another £5m on to his pricetag....
Neuer, Adler, Akinfeev, Lloris. Any of those would do for me.
But we'll probably get someone like David James...
digger wrote:You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.
Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.
I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)
That's £40m already
Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on
No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.
Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.
The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..
I am a bit confused everytime a press ask a board memeber or the chairman about what happens to the transfer money we get from player sales they say that all of it is available to wenger and now we are making profit on the property front then why wont the money be a available I just dont get it.
We have cut our debt from 320 million to 190 million. All the flats sale will mean we get another 30-40 million additional revenue then why can't we spend 30-40 million on players I dont get it and its jsut not on one player but 2-4 players
digger wrote:You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.
Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.
I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)
That's £40m already
Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on
No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.
Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money
To spin bullshit that we have a massive transfer budget?
I actually have no idea which way they do it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it this way to make it look like we're much better off than we are.
Whatever it is, we won't be spending anything like £45m on transfers, so it doesn't really matter.
digger wrote:You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.
Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.
I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)
That's £40m already
Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on
No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.
Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money, it's nonsensical, the wages and re-negs come from and are budgetted in to the club yearly income/turnover, the same as it is everywhere else, if you wanted to be anal and seperate them into there own kitty, you would just call them the wages and re-neg kitty , not the transfer kitty.
The manager and the board have tried to perpetuate this baloney along with lots of other mis-information in an attempt to cover up and confuse the fans as to how little we actually spend..no one else does it because no one else feels the need to lie to their fans about how little they are spending and why..
Don't ask me why it is this way but it is. I think it was Wenger that said it. It was something like "Even if I have £15 Million (reported amount at the time) I wouldn't be able to buy a player of world class quality. The amount would have to factor in a players wage"
Maybe it's spin as £45M sounds a massive warchest. But not when you factor in wages and renewals.
Could you see Arsene having £45M to spend soley on transfers? I could on the other had see it if this factored in wages and renewals.
digger wrote:You've all forgotten.... a £45m "kitty" at Arsenal includes transfers.
Chamakh is therefore not free. He'll probably get 90k per week, and a 3 year deal = £15m.
I'd like us to sign a keeper... We were linked with Sebastian Frey (£15m transfer fee, plus 3 years @ 60k = £10m)
That's £40m already
Chamak 90K not it will be more like 50-70K not more than that and a 45 Million transfer kitting doesn't include wages I think since you pay them weekly with the revenues you make from matchdays, shirt sales and so on
No, Diggers right. Whatever the kitty is includes the contract of the deals. It's the way Arsenal report then. So this also applies to renegotiations.
Do you not see how little sense that makes...if you put money aside and call it the transfer kitty..why would you then take wages and renegotiations out of that money
To spin bullshit that we have a massive transfer budget?
I actually have no idea which way they do it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did it this way to make it look like we're much better off than we are.
Whatever it is, we won't be spending anything like £45m on transfers, so it doesn't really matter.
Champagne Charlie wrote:I thought Wenger was linked with that Blaise Matuidi last year? At least Matuidi issued some sort of 'come and get me' statement. He's since signed a new deal but he's 22 yr old (good age for AW) and is very talented. he'd be a better recruit than the more expensive Melo/Veloso.
Don't think Hangeland is worth the money Woy Hodgson would want. Seen alot more of him this year and he hasn't really impressed me.
Neven Subotic from Dortmund? He might be good. Also young but has good experience.
But I think a keeper will be more likely brought in.
Wouldn't mind Robert Green, but it looks like Spammers are staying up so they'll lob another £5m on to his pricetag....
Neuer, Adler, Akinfeev, Lloris. Any of those would do for me.
But we'll probably get someone like David James...
Matudi signed a contract so his price shoots up meaning we wont sign him same for Subotic and Hangeland
Boateng, Bonnuci are a different story we can get them cheaper as there contract expires in 2011.
Why can't we go for a english player Gary Chaill maybe I dont know someone tough and tall and english
Last edited by Jason_arsenal2010 on Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
mrgnu1958 wrote:look...i havent read the 3 pages here..But is it right that Arsenal are sending out messages that theres £45 million pound to spend?
if so.....
ITS.......SEASON TICKET RENEWAL TIME!!!!!!
I've asked the question several times ****, but no-ones said where the figures from. Doubt Arsenal would ever state this is I think it's a number plucked out of the air!
