Theres gonna Be a Fans Backlash...

[I Hate Hleb]

Think they might just go for a sign to encompass it all. It's this one

:awnker: :awnker: :awnker:

[digger]

Arsenal FC- less than a club.

Can they spell that out in the seats?

...then Barcelona can buy our fucking seats too

I never believe our players are leaving until it actually happened... I refused to believe Vieira had gone until I saw him in a Juve shirt, I even refused to believe Cole was going. I just hope Fabregas stays, at least for another year.


I'm a Silver member - it took me ten years to get this far - and if Arsenal prove they are a selling club by choosing cashing in on Fabregas over trophies he potentially could win, I won't visit a single match next season.

I don't see why the tourists would want to come to Arsenal anymore anyway. If you want to see the biggest names, go to Chelsea.

[augie]

I just dont know what to say anymore.....I have gone from acceptance to anger and now to downright depression It is bad enough watching a steady dribble of your players leave your club over the past few seasons but now to (possibly) lose our star player who hasnt reached his peak yet and to know we are going to get screwed on the transfer fee as well and the cherry on top of the icing of the cake is when you know that most fans will grumble and moan but do fcuk all else

this club needs new leadership in a major way right now and that is from the top down. I am sick to the teeth of watching these *word censored* in the boardroom screw our club to the point where we have gone from invinceables in 2004 to a club on its knee's just 6 years later. God I am so depressed I cant even talk about it now

[Chips and Chocolate]

Arsenal FC- less than a club.

Can they spell that out in the seats?

I don't see why the tourists would want to come to Arsenal anymore anyway.

Every cloud has a silver lining then!

[USMartin]

Arsenal FC- less than a club.

Can they spell that out in the seats?

I don't see why the tourists would want to come to Arsenal anymore anyway.

Every cloud has a silver lining then!

[lebob1988]

I cant afford a fecking train ticket to canvey island right now

haha my hometown

[flash gunner]

I just dont know what to say anymore.....I have gone from acceptance to anger and now to downright depression It is bad enough watching a steady dribble of your players leave your club over the past few seasons but now to (possibly) lose our star player who hasnt reached his peak yet and to know we are going to get screwed on the transfer fee as well and the cherry on top of the icing of the cake is when you know that most fans will grumble and moan but do fcuk all else

this club needs new leadership in a major way right now and that is from the top down. I am sick to the teeth of watching these c**ts in the boardroom screw our club to the point where we have gone from invinceables in 2004 to a club on its knee's just 6 years later. God I am so depressed I cant even talk about it now

Spot on Augie

[clockendal]

Have you read online Ed's article....where he quotes Wenger from a few years back about buying youngsters because it would be an 'interesting experiment'?
Well folks, the truth is about to hit home to most. I fully expect us to sell Fab for an un-dislcosed fee (for now) and it will be equal to or less than 35m. Wenger will spend money, but it will be on Frenchmen/Africans and he won't spend 50m which he will obviously have available (or more). If we sign Gourcuff it would be a great signing but ultimately, any single player we sign as a replacement for Fab will not be good enough, because he is in the top 3 in the world and we won't sign one of the other two. Unfortunately I have just renewed my ST, but I guarantee if Wenger doesn't sort this squad out with at least 4 quality signings this summer then that's it for me, for ever. I'm not willing to be taken for a mug by Arsene Wenger and this Arsenal board any longer. Thanks Wenger, you're the reason Fab wants to leave because you made him play with shit for so long you stubborn idiot, please go for the sake of the Arsenal.

That is rubbish mate. Cesc ALWAYS wanted to go back to Barcelona one day. He didn't seem to love his home town club so much when he walked out on them did he though? Let's look at it this way, if we had won the title and the champions league last season, would he stay and try and win them again ? Or would be be able to say "Well I've won everything at Arsenal so now I want a new challenge" ? Is it just about winning trophies for Cesc ? If so are Barcelona the only club he can win trophies at ? I don't see them defending their CL trophy this saturday night ?

I fully understand Cesc wanting to go back to his home club. That has been what he would have always wanted. If he'd won 5 titles in a row or nothing he would have wanted to go back. I don't think anything the board or Wenger could have done would change that. Ok yes, you can all say we lack ambition a player of Cesc' quality deserves it ? Hang on is he the second coming ? It seems he's getting more love on here than I ever saw DB10 and TH14 get and that is saying something. You may moan about the AKB and the JCL but some of you sound like a Cesc Fabregas fan club.

[flash gunner]

Have you read online Ed's article....where he quotes Wenger from a few years back about buying youngsters because it would be an 'interesting experiment'?
Well folks, the truth is about to hit home to most. I fully expect us to sell Fab for an un-dislcosed fee (for now) and it will be equal to or less than 35m. Wenger will spend money, but it will be on Frenchmen/Africans and he won't spend 50m which he will obviously have available (or more). If we sign Gourcuff it would be a great signing but ultimately, any single player we sign as a replacement for Fab will not be good enough, because he is in the top 3 in the world and we won't sign one of the other two. Unfortunately I have just renewed my ST, but I guarantee if Wenger doesn't sort this squad out with at least 4 quality signings this summer then that's it for me, for ever. I'm not willing to be taken for a mug by Arsene Wenger and this Arsenal board any longer. Thanks Wenger, you're the reason Fab wants to leave because you made him play with shit for so long you stubborn idiot, please go for the sake of the Arsenal.

That is rubbish mate. Cesc ALWAYS wanted to go back to Barcelona one day. He didn't seem to love his home town club so much when he walked out on them did he though? Let's look at it this way, if we had won the title and the champions league last season, would he stay and try and win them again ? Or would be be able to say "Well I've won everything at Arsenal so now I want a new challenge" ? Is it just about winning trophies for Cesc ? If so are Barcelona the only club he can win trophies at ? I don't see them defending their CL trophy this saturday night ?

I fully understand Cesc wanting to go back to his home club. That has been what he would have always wanted. If he'd won 5 titles in a row or nothing he would have wanted to go back. I don't think anything the board or Wenger could have done would change that. Ok yes, you can all say we lack ambition a player of Cesc' quality deserves it ? Hang on is he the second coming ? It seems he's getting more love on here than I ever saw DB10 and TH14 get and that is saying something. You may moan about the AKB and the JCL but some of you sound like a Cesc Fabregas fan club.

I think the posts youre refering to are due to the total despair about the direction the club is going in. Cesc might have left whatever the situation but if he sat with Wenger and wasnt made guarantees about the future (as reported) then things are not changing anytime soon regarding player improvements and Cesc is right to go.

Arsenal arent a project and winning trophies isnt everything but surely we have to see evidence that we are moving forward, if Cesc is right and we arent moving forward things need to change drastically regarding the manager or board or both. We have massively reduced our debt but why? We havent improved the squad but we cant say we have been skint as we have halved our debt, a debt that would have been paid off comfortably over 25 year or it wouldnt have been agreed with the banks

Its a very similar situation to when Brady left

[clockendal]

Have you read online Ed's article....where he quotes Wenger from a few years back about buying youngsters because it would be an 'interesting experiment'?
Well folks, the truth is about to hit home to most. I fully expect us to sell Fab for an un-dislcosed fee (for now) and it will be equal to or less than 35m. Wenger will spend money, but it will be on Frenchmen/Africans and he won't spend 50m which he will obviously have available (or more). If we sign Gourcuff it would be a great signing but ultimately, any single player we sign as a replacement for Fab will not be good enough, because he is in the top 3 in the world and we won't sign one of the other two. Unfortunately I have just renewed my ST, but I guarantee if Wenger doesn't sort this squad out with at least 4 quality signings this summer then that's it for me, for ever. I'm not willing to be taken for a mug by Arsene Wenger and this Arsenal board any longer. Thanks Wenger, you're the reason Fab wants to leave because you made him play with shit for so long you stubborn idiot, please go for the sake of the Arsenal.

That is rubbish mate. Cesc ALWAYS wanted to go back to Barcelona one day. He didn't seem to love his home town club so much when he walked out on them did he though? Let's look at it this way, if we had won the title and the champions league last season, would he stay and try and win them again ? Or would be be able to say "Well I've won everything at Arsenal so now I want a new challenge" ? Is it just about winning trophies for Cesc ? If so are Barcelona the only club he can win trophies at ? I don't see them defending their CL trophy this saturday night ?

I fully understand Cesc wanting to go back to his home club. That has been what he would have always wanted. If he'd won 5 titles in a row or nothing he would have wanted to go back. I don't think anything the board or Wenger could have done would change that. Ok yes, you can all say we lack ambition a player of Cesc' quality deserves it ? Hang on is he the second coming ? It seems he's getting more love on here than I ever saw DB10 and TH14 get and that is saying something. You may moan about the AKB and the JCL but some of you sound like a Cesc Fabregas fan club.

I think the posts youre refering to are due to the total despair about the direction the club is going in. Cesc might have left whatever the situation but if he sat with Wenger and wasnt made guarantees about the future (as reported) then things are not changing anytime soon regarding player improvements and Cesc is right to go.

Arsenal arent a project and winning trophies isnt everything but surely we have to see evidence that we are moving forward, if Cesc is right and we arent moving forward things need to change drastically regarding the manager or board or both

Whilst I agree that we need to sign some players, I don't think you can fully lay the blame for Cesc wanting to go at Arsene's door. Yes, we do need some players and we don't know what was said in the meeting. As I have said before we need a goalkeeper without a doubt. Surely Arsene will rectify that. If he's told Cesc "Ok listen I beleive in Almunia and Fabianski" I could well see why Cesc would think that was beyond a joke and would agree with that. That said I beleive that if Cesc has decided that the time is right and he wants to go back "home" then I personally don't think it would matter who we signed as if he wants to go that's it. Then it becomes easy for Cesc in a way, as can be seen on here. He can say I love this club but they are not moving in the direction I want, I am ambitious etc and no one will blame him. But in my opinion if he wants to go I don't think there's anything that could be done to stop him.

Just to be clear, I am getting to the end of my tether with Arsene and the noises that come out of the club and I am 100% we need to sign 2-3 players (we won't sign any more for sure). If we don't then I will also want answers from the club as it will not be on.

As an aside, it does seem to be the market we are in. I've read 100's of posts on here about how every club is going to strenghen this summer, including Man U..interesting then this from BBC re United's summer spending..http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 691007.stm

[flash gunner]

Have you read online Ed's article....where he quotes Wenger from a few years back about buying youngsters because it would be an 'interesting experiment'?
Well folks, the truth is about to hit home to most. I fully expect us to sell Fab for an un-dislcosed fee (for now) and it will be equal to or less than 35m. Wenger will spend money, but it will be on Frenchmen/Africans and he won't spend 50m which he will obviously have available (or more). If we sign Gourcuff it would be a great signing but ultimately, any single player we sign as a replacement for Fab will not be good enough, because he is in the top 3 in the world and we won't sign one of the other two. Unfortunately I have just renewed my ST, but I guarantee if Wenger doesn't sort this squad out with at least 4 quality signings this summer then that's it for me, for ever. I'm not willing to be taken for a mug by Arsene Wenger and this Arsenal board any longer. Thanks Wenger, you're the reason Fab wants to leave because you made him play with shit for so long you stubborn idiot, please go for the sake of the Arsenal.

That is rubbish mate. Cesc ALWAYS wanted to go back to Barcelona one day. He didn't seem to love his home town club so much when he walked out on them did he though? Let's look at it this way, if we had won the title and the champions league last season, would he stay and try and win them again ? Or would be be able to say "Well I've won everything at Arsenal so now I want a new challenge" ? Is it just about winning trophies for Cesc ? If so are Barcelona the only club he can win trophies at ? I don't see them defending their CL trophy this saturday night ?

I fully understand Cesc wanting to go back to his home club. That has been what he would have always wanted. If he'd won 5 titles in a row or nothing he would have wanted to go back. I don't think anything the board or Wenger could have done would change that. Ok yes, you can all say we lack ambition a player of Cesc' quality deserves it ? Hang on is he the second coming ? It seems he's getting more love on here than I ever saw DB10 and TH14 get and that is saying something. You may moan about the AKB and the JCL but some of you sound like a Cesc Fabregas fan club.

I think the posts youre refering to are due to the total despair about the direction the club is going in. Cesc might have left whatever the situation but if he sat with Wenger and wasnt made guarantees about the future (as reported) then things are not changing anytime soon regarding player improvements and Cesc is right to go.

Arsenal arent a project and winning trophies isnt everything but surely we have to see evidence that we are moving forward, if Cesc is right and we arent moving forward things need to change drastically regarding the manager or board or both

Whilst I agree that we need to sign some players, I don't think you can fully lay the blame for Cesc wanting to go at Arsene's door. Yes, we do need some players and we don't know what was said in the meeting. As I have said before we need a goalkeeper without a doubt. Surely Arsene will rectify that. If he's told Cesc "Ok listen I beleive in Almunia and Fabianski" I could well see why Cesc would think that was beyond a joke and would agree with that. That said I beleive that if Cesc has decided that the time is right and he wants to go back "home" then I personally don't think it would matter who we signed as if he wants to go that's it. Then it becomes easy for Cesc in a way, as can be seen on here. He can say I love this club but they are not moving in the direction I want, I am ambitious etc and no one will blame him. But in my opinion if he wants to go I don't think there's anything that could be done to stop him.

Just to be clear, I am getting to the end of my tether with Arsene and the noises that come out of the club and I am 100% we need to sign 2-3 players (we won't sign any more for sure). If we don't then I will also want answers from the club as it will not be on.

As an aside, it does seem to be the market we are in. I've read 100's of posts on here about how every club is going to strenghen this summer, including Man U..interesting then this from BBC re United's summer spending..http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 691007.stm

United might be in debt but having won the league 3 years in a row including 1 European Cup too and missing out on the league this year by a point i would suggest they are in a better situation than us from the starting point.

I agree with the feeling we need 2 or 3 players but that is without losing Cesc so if we lose him then where are we? As i said i dont want trophies as such but want proof we are moving in the right direction and i just dont see it now and id say neither does Cesc

[clockendal]

Have you read online Ed's article....where he quotes Wenger from a few years back about buying youngsters because it would be an 'interesting experiment'?
Well folks, the truth is about to hit home to most. I fully expect us to sell Fab for an un-dislcosed fee (for now) and it will be equal to or less than 35m. Wenger will spend money, but it will be on Frenchmen/Africans and he won't spend 50m which he will obviously have available (or more). If we sign Gourcuff it would be a great signing but ultimately, any single player we sign as a replacement for Fab will not be good enough, because he is in the top 3 in the world and we won't sign one of the other two. Unfortunately I have just renewed my ST, but I guarantee if Wenger doesn't sort this squad out with at least 4 quality signings this summer then that's it for me, for ever. I'm not willing to be taken for a mug by Arsene Wenger and this Arsenal board any longer. Thanks Wenger, you're the reason Fab wants to leave because you made him play with shit for so long you stubborn idiot, please go for the sake of the Arsenal.

That is rubbish mate. Cesc ALWAYS wanted to go back to Barcelona one day. He didn't seem to love his home town club so much when he walked out on them did he though? Let's look at it this way, if we had won the title and the champions league last season, would he stay and try and win them again ? Or would be be able to say "Well I've won everything at Arsenal so now I want a new challenge" ? Is it just about winning trophies for Cesc ? If so are Barcelona the only club he can win trophies at ? I don't see them defending their CL trophy this saturday night ?

I fully understand Cesc wanting to go back to his home club. That has been what he would have always wanted. If he'd won 5 titles in a row or nothing he would have wanted to go back. I don't think anything the board or Wenger could have done would change that. Ok yes, you can all say we lack ambition a player of Cesc' quality deserves it ? Hang on is he the second coming ? It seems he's getting more love on here than I ever saw DB10 and TH14 get and that is saying something. You may moan about the AKB and the JCL but some of you sound like a Cesc Fabregas fan club.

I think the posts youre refering to are due to the total despair about the direction the club is going in. Cesc might have left whatever the situation but if he sat with Wenger and wasnt made guarantees about the future (as reported) then things are not changing anytime soon regarding player improvements and Cesc is right to go.

Arsenal arent a project and winning trophies isnt everything but surely we have to see evidence that we are moving forward, if Cesc is right and we arent moving forward things need to change drastically regarding the manager or board or both

Whilst I agree that we need to sign some players, I don't think you can fully lay the blame for Cesc wanting to go at Arsene's door. Yes, we do need some players and we don't know what was said in the meeting. As I have said before we need a goalkeeper without a doubt. Surely Arsene will rectify that. If he's told Cesc "Ok listen I beleive in Almunia and Fabianski" I could well see why Cesc would think that was beyond a joke and would agree with that. That said I beleive that if Cesc has decided that the time is right and he wants to go back "home" then I personally don't think it would matter who we signed as if he wants to go that's it. Then it becomes easy for Cesc in a way, as can be seen on here. He can say I love this club but they are not moving in the direction I want, I am ambitious etc and no one will blame him. But in my opinion if he wants to go I don't think there's anything that could be done to stop him.

Just to be clear, I am getting to the end of my tether with Arsene and the noises that come out of the club and I am 100% we need to sign 2-3 players (we won't sign any more for sure). If we don't then I will also want answers from the club as it will not be on.

As an aside, it does seem to be the market we are in. I've read 100's of posts on here about how every club is going to strenghen this summer, including Man U..interesting then this from BBC re United's summer spending..http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 691007.stm

United might be in debt but having won the league 3 years in a row including 1 European Cup too and missing out on the league this year by a point i would suggest they are in a better situation than us from the starting point.

I agree with the feeling we need 2 or 3 players but that is without losing Cesc so if we lose him then where are we? As i said i dont want trophies as such but want proof we are moving in the right direction and i just dont see it now and id say neither does Cesc

I wasn't debating as to if United were in a better situation. What I was saying is that I have read on here numerous times "The Chavs will sign players, so will Man U, so will Spurs, so will Man City etc" Just pointing out that they have come out and said they may not as based on this from Fergie "There may be one signing but it's not easy in the present climate. The market is very difficult," said Ferguson


If Cesc goes (which looks nailed on now) then yes it may be that we would need more. But I don't think that we will get more than 2-3 and will have to see how it pans out. That is not purely down to the lack of ambition maybe just the market we are in.

As to whether it's proof to Cesc or not. I still maintain I don't think it matters who Arsene could tell Cesc we were signing (realistically speaking) and if he has decided he wants to go back to Barcelona there is very little that could be done to change his mind.

[flash gunner]

I wasn't debating as to if United were in a better situation. What I was saying is that I have read on here numerous times "The Chavs will sign players, so will Man U, so will Spurs, so will Man City etc" Just pointing out that they have come out and said they may not as based on this from Fergie "There may be one signing but it's not easy in the present climate. The market is very difficult," said Ferguson


If Cesc goes (which looks nailed on now) then yes it may be that we would need more. But I don't think that we will get more than 2-3 and will have to see how it pans out. That is not purely down to the lack of ambition maybe just the market we are in.

As to whether it's proof to Cesc or not. I still maintain I don't think it matters who Arsene could tell Cesc we were signing (realistically speaking) and if he has decided he wants to go back to Barcelona there is very little that could be done to change his mind

I agree with much of what you write the only problem i have is we have cleared much of our debt (halved i think) and this debt was scheduled to payed over 25 years so we have had the money to strengthen but havent had the want to do so, this might might be the reason Cesc doesnt want to stay!! If reports are to be believed then this is the case and Cesc deserves better than many of the sub standard players we have at the moment. I also agree we will not sign more than 2-3 players this summer

[bergkamp10]

Listen guys/gals theres NO WAY they are gonna disclose the fee...So forget that one

The fee would have to be disclosed at the agm in august mate, if not b4. cuntybayor went for an undisclosed fee, but was revealed in the account files about a month later so they cant even pull that trick on us

Comapnies House is always a good read, on a winters night...!

I been told from source, that Cesc wants the deal done either way BEFORE the W.C. I must say I cannot blame him on this one, as has been stated on here countless times, he almost alone carried the team last season in games.

It will be particularly poor business if it is YaYa plus 35M in my book,

[bergkamp10]

Your timing however is pretty piss poor

Really there has to be other options - not purchasing mew merchandise or DVDs maybe or wearing protest message shirts . Maybe we could boycott the Emirates Cup -they only in front of a few thousand at most in Austria so I'm not sure it would faze the team as much as it would draw attention to our discontent.

Last season was my first so tell me about it, thought I was on to something good

Again with boycotting it is the tourists and day trippers who make these sales up. I didn't go into the Armoury once this season or buy a shirt, and I am sure many other ST holders didn't either.

It needs to be more direct like the banner @ the Fulham game, Its getting a bit much now, the board are just sitting around doing jack.

Banners are good but we need something a bit more noticable I suspect.

I like boycotting the Emirates Cup. Onluy problem is if the seats have been bought and the Board has the money they won't care TOO much. However if its organized and gets some real media attention it might have an impact in that the media(which hasn't been nearly curious enough for my money. If Arsenal was in New York City - the club's finances and business policies would have been investigated several times over by now by either fans or the media..

Its a shame its come to this really. Hard to fathom this back in 2004 really.

That's the word on some of the other forums, a boycott of the Emirates Cup and banners for the Barnet game???