Ian Holloway - lol

Post by **flash gunner** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:53 am

Cant stand Holloway

He is a classless wanker who is involving himself in something that has absolutely fuck all to do with him. Sometimes less is more and this clown cant keep his mouth shut

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:48 am

marcengels wrote:
Perryashburtongroves wrote:He sounds like a slightly drunk old man moaning about immigration.
does he post on here?

Yes. He uses the name Percy Dalton on here.

supergeorgegraham · Post by **supergeorgegraham** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:44 am

I agree with Ian Holloway, brilliant bloke and a breath of fresh air in modern football.

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:11 am

I'm sorry but Holloway has said a whole load without actually saying anything.

If you pay for a house you own it, it's yours and then the house leaves, totally wrong analogy there.

Footballers aren't chattles, Rooney signed a contract, when that contract is up he's at liberty to move on. The money paid out by clubs is to buy off the remainder of a player's contract, not to 'buy the player'.

Reading between the lines here, United are strapped of cash and can't afford Rooney's wages. After years of luring players away from other clubs on the basis of outdoing them in the wages - Berbatov, Yorke, Ferdinand, Rooney himself from Everton, going even further back Webb, Birtles and also Stapleton from us.

Now they're in debt they're being outbid for wages - welcome to our world!

I don't see the national outrage, just because it's Man Ure!

Post by **flash gunner** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:13 am

Never Outgunned wrote:I'm sorry but Holloway has said a whole load without actually saying anything.

If you pay for a house you own it, it's yours and then the house leaves, totally wrong analogy there.

Footballers aren't chattles, Rooney signed a contract, when that contract is up he's at liberty to move on. The money paid out by clubs is to buy off the remainder of a player's contract, not to 'buy the player'.
Reading between the lines here, United are strapped of cash and can't afford Rooney's wages. After years of luring players away from other clubs on the basis of outdoing them in the wages - Berbatov, Yorke, Ferdinand, Rooney himself from Everton, going even further back Webb, Birtles and also Stapleton from us.

Now they're in debt they're being outbid for wages - welcome to our world!

I don't see the national outrage, just because it's Man Ure!

well said mate totally agree especially the bold bits

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:14 am

SammyDroppedHisShorts wrote:Its Owen Coyle's statement that worries me

"Everyone in football would want Man Utd to keep Rooney as it is good for the game" i cant fucking stand the Scouse c**t...the quicker he fucks off the better......everyone....my arse....

I don't recall anyone saying us keeping Cesc, or any of our players who have been lured away as 'good for the game'

What is it about United and their media cronies?

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:17 am

Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.

Post by **flash gunner** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:20 am

Never Outgunned wrote:Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.

Sopt on mate

Clubs dont own players like people own houses!!! Its a ridiculous analogy

MM99 · Post by **MM99** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:23 am

flash gunner wrote:
Never Outgunned wrote:Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.
Sopt on mate

Clubs dont own players like people own houses!!! Its a ridiculous analogy

Maybe i got it wrong, but he wasn't actually moaning about the Bosman ruling. I thought he was actually agreeing with it?

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:23 am

Decisions made by people 'not in the real world'.

You're in the football business, what the fuck do you know about the real world?

I walked off my job last week after a pay freeze was enacted at my work place and I was earning Â£5K a year under the market rate, after working my 1 month notice.

I got a job yesterday doing the same thing that paid the market rate, THAT'S THE REAL WORLD HOLLOWAY.

No transfer fees or 4 year contracts for me, just thank the lord you're not operating in the real world or you'll really be up shit creek without a paddle!

Post by **flash gunner** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:27 am

MM99 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Never Outgunned wrote:Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.
Sopt on mate

Clubs dont own players like people own houses!!! Its a ridiculous analogy
Maybe i got it wrong, but he wasn't actually moaning about the Bosman ruling. I thought he was actually agreeing with it?

He was moaning about the Bosman rule im sure of it but this is one of the problems with Holloway he loves his rep. of being 'funny' and controversial therefore he talks so much shit half the time you dont know what the fuck he is going on about

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:37 am

flash gunner wrote:
MM99 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Never Outgunned wrote:Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.
Sopt on mate

Clubs dont own players like people own houses!!! Its a ridiculous analogy
Maybe i got it wrong, but he wasn't actually moaning about the Bosman ruling. I thought he was actually agreeing with it?
He was moaning about the Bosman rule im sure of it but this is one of the problems with Holloway he loves his rep. of being 'funny' and controversial therefore he talks so much shit half the time you dont know what the fuck he is going on about

He reminds me of one of those dicks who call up Talksport and confused a lack of sense and intelligence as being 'passionate'.

MM99 · Post by **MM99** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:50 am

flash gunner wrote:
MM99 wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
Never Outgunned wrote:Holloway moaning about the Bosman rule.

Now if Holloway was a player in the pre-George Eastham era with the retain and transfer system, he would probably have moaned like fuck.
Sopt on mate

Clubs dont own players like people own houses!!! Its a ridiculous analogy
Maybe i got it wrong, but he wasn't actually moaning about the Bosman ruling. I thought he was actually agreeing with it?
He was moaning about the Bosman rule im sure of it but this is one of the problems with Holloway he loves his rep. of being 'funny' and controversial therefore he talks so much shit half the time you dont know what the fuck he is going on about

Just looked at the video again, and i'd agree with you he was wrong about a player being able to move once his contract is up. But he makes some very good points which i'd think you'd be hard pressed to disagree with.
One, he makes the point that football should look at itself as it's out of touch with reality. I think we'd all agree with that what with the wage and transfer fee inflation that we've been experiencing. Players being on 200,000 quid a week when they're not even that good, ticket prices rising as a result of this greed as essentially it's the fans that have to pay these lot their money.
Then he also makes the point about agents being able to manufacture such scenario's to increase both their client's and their own wealth with total disregard to the club and the fans. Again, i think you'd agree with what Holloway is saying that it is wrong that a club can invenst so much money into a player, make him what he is, and then have it all go to waste because an agent thinks he could get more money for his player and a bigger signing on fee for himself by sticking two fingers up at the club. Like Holloway said, Rooney's been getting his Â£90,000 a week "come rain or shine, whether injured or not" and to then send a big "fuck you" to the fans by his agent manufacturing a move to where he would get paid even more is wrong.
So even though i disagree with him on the Bosman ruling, he does make some really good points in his 'rant' about player and agent greed and how football should look at itself and correct that.

Post by **HashKads** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:53 am

He just appears to be trying to make a name for himself which he won't be remembered for when he sinks back down to the Championship next season and all his squad leave.

Never Outgunned · Post by **Never Outgunned** » Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:59 am

MM99 wrote: Like Holloway said, Rooney's been getting his Â£90,000 a week "come rain or shine, whether injured or not" and to then send a big "fuck you" to the fans by his agent manufacturing a move to where he would get paid even more is wrong.
So even though i disagree with him on the Bosman ruling, he does make some really good points in his 'rant' about player and agent greed and how football should look at itself and correct that.

Though the thing that makes United a prisoner to paying him Â£90K per week is the thing that makes Rooney a prisoner to playing for United for x number of years as stated in his contract.

In contractual law terms it's the thing that is called 'consideration' - what promises you make which buys the promise of the third party. There is no extra 'consideration' that United are giving that Rooney isn't.

And though they're playing Rooney Â£90k per week whether injured or not, if Rooney spends a long time injured like Darren Anderton did at Spurs, like Anderton he can be dumped by the club when his contract is up.