Underachievement under Wenger

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:33 pm

We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?

Post by **flash gunner** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:39 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?

Cue OCDMartin

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 12:42 pm

flash gunner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?
Cue OCDMartin

What have I done?

Red Carpet · Post by **Red Carpet** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 3:51 pm

We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?

Probably haven't copied that quote correctly - not sure how you do it but anyway ...

Hard to say of course but what cannot be denied is that Fergie gets every last drop out of his players and they play with a maturity and composure that often belies their ability. His teams generally manage to combine defending well with attacking in numbers. I sometimes wonder where our players go?!? .. when we attack half of them are strolling over the halfway line then when an attack gets broken down they are nowhere to be seen?!?. It goes without saying that this present crop have absolutely no composure or maturity at all.

highburyJD · Post by **highburyJD** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:09 pm

this is arguably meatface's greatest season
in all his other successes ManUre were the leagues dominant financial force

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:18 pm

If ferguson had taken over from 2007, we would probably have more success in that period than he has had with united!

It's highly debatable whether he could have got us to that point, with the new training ground, stadium and low transfer spend.

Highburyjd, manure haven't been the dominant financial force since 2004 and weren't in 1996 either.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:30 pm

Arsenal 1991 wrote:If ferguson had taken over from 2007, we would probably have more success in that period than he has had with united!

It's highly debatable whether he could have got us to that point, with the new training ground, stadium and low transfer spend.

Highburyjd, manure haven't been the dominant financial force since 2004 and weren't in 1996 either.

Are you sure about that you should ask USMARTIN what he thinks

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:07 pm

DB10GOONER wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?
Cue OCDMartin
What have I done?

Personal Favorite from the Clash nice choice that DB

Why would I have to address that when its already been addressed and quite well I might add.Some of you just worry way too much.

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 6:54 am

USMartin wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:
flash gunner wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:We tried to sign Rednose before GG... how different things might have been. But then, Rednose has always had money at Utd and was able to pay top wages - would he have been as successful with us and our notorious pay structure in the 80's and 90's? Certainly he would have had SOME success, but as much?
Cue OCDMartin
What have I done?

Personal Favorite from the Clash nice choice that DB

Why would I have to address that when its already been addressed and quite well I might add.Some of you just worry way too much.

Did I just hear a collective sigh of relief from this forum...?

Post by **flash gunner** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:02 am

highburyJD wrote:this is arguably meatface's greatest season
in all his other successes ManUre were the leagues dominant financial force

Financial force from winning year after year after year. Success breeds success

Batflyer · Post by **Batflyer** » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:13 am

Red Carpet wrote:Trophies we SHOULD have won

UEFA Cup Final 2000
FA Cup Final 2001
Premiership 2003
Champions League 2004
FA Cup 2004
League Cup 2011

Thats SIX

Trophies we COULD have won

Premiership 1999 (lost by 1 point)
FA Cup 1999 (missed last min pen to knock out Man U)
Premiership 2008 (When Eduardo got injured at Birmingham that would have
sent us 8 points clear)

How about the Champions League Final in 2006?

Underachievement under Wenger

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