Odemwingie...

RNTGOONER · Post by **RNTGOONER** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:05 pm

fourth choice striker.. yeah go for it, but second / third choice no way

Irish Gooner · Post by **Irish Gooner** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:14 pm

1989 wrote:He's average. Sign people like him and we're heading out of the top 4.

Agreed.

Would he get in any of the top 8 sides, not imo.

augie · Post by **augie** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:05 pm

FrenchGun wrote:Thank god I thought I was going to be the only one! He's average, nothing more, nothing less...

As Augie said, can't believe people can be satisfied with this kind of "big signing"...

Being alligned with me and my opinion is not what I would call a good choice buddy

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:22 pm

augie wrote:Jeez I dunno if it is me getting picky but none of these guys we are meant to be after instill much confidence in me - I mean we all know wenger will sign fcuk all but once upon a time we were at least being linked with signing top quality players but now we are linked with signing this guy, or samba or the ox who are the type of players that gus ceaser is a legend used to say "can do a job" and he wasnt being complimentary either

People keep saying that this summer wenger knows that he has to up his game big time in the quality of players he buys but these same fans are talking up these guys as good purchases We finished in 4th place last season people, a full 12 pts behind the worst manc team in twenty years so can you honestly put your hand on your heart and say that these guys can lift us up to the top level next season ? For me these are squad buys not first team players and imo it is first team players we need first and foremost and then if there is still cash in the kitty we can look into strengthening the squad. I know that these are only rumoured transfer targets but have we really sunk so low in expectations that signing players from blackburn, southampton and the baggies is now classed as a good days work ?

Augie - perhaps you're in denial sunshine but not me. I know what you mean, but I've come to expect it these days. Anyone out there that genuinely believed we were linked with Benzema or any top class international player need to ask themselves one thing - when's the last time we signed one of those - and please don't quote Andrei Arshavin (a man never to play in a top European league till we signed him on the back of a half decent Euro 2008).

We are what we are - the height of our expectations this coming season should be 4th place. Ferguson's no dummy - he knows that his worst squad since 2002 are not going to win the CL - and he's already up for the challenge which is why you can expect to see De Gea, Sneijder and Young there as a minimum come August. Chelsea and City will also invest millions

Anyone out there still opposed to Usmanov ? I know our place well - it's 4th at best - a scrap with the Mickeys and the Spuds.

Oxlade-Chamberlain, Samba and Odemwingie are about the mark these days.

Forget all the shite about Gary Cahill (off to City), Benzema (going nowhere), Eto'o (look out for the wage demands) and Hazard (has the cream of Europe after him......as well as us with our sustainable model)

Hope the moral high ground keeps everyone warm on those cold, cold Europa League nights that are no more than a year away

augie · Post by **augie** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:41 pm

Steve O I am far from deluded believe me

As I said I am not expecting us to sign "worldie's" but it has not gotten so bad and we are valued so lowly that we are not even seriously linked with top level players

Of course for me, you seem to grade players into two different groups........the top quality players in one group and everything else into the second group. Wouldnt it be fairer to have a middle tier of players and I would suggest that it is here that we should be doing shopping instead of dredging our nets along the bottom of the ocean to see what shite we can buy next

Btw I too would like to see usmanov taking over..........kroenke's more of the same cant work when the same has largely been total shite

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:20 pm

augie wrote:Steve O I am far from deluded believe me As I said I am not expecting us to sign "worldie's" but it has not gotten so bad and we are valued so lowly that we are not even seriously linked with top level players Of course for me, you seem to grade players into two different groups........the top quality players in one group and everything else into the second group. Wouldnt it be fairer to have a middle tier of players and I would suggest that it is here that we should be doing shopping instead of dredging our nets along the bottom of the ocean to see what shite we can buy next

Btw I too would like to see usmanov taking over..........kroenke's more of the same cant work when the same has largely been total shite

Sorry mate....I wasn't really having a pop at you....after all you're almost as much of a miserable *word censored* as me !

Personally I think there are only 2 groups of players - those at are good enough to improve us being a 4th place, domestic cup runner-up and CL last 16 place - and those that aren't.

Sadly none of the players we will sign this summer are likely to improve upon what's gone before.

Samba - he'll hopefully stop the silly set piece goals to some extent; based on sheer physical size but the organisation defensively will be just as shoddy. And Samba in the CL against the likes of Barcelona - please.

Oxlade-Chamberlain - he'll dazzle in the Carling Cup and FA Cup against the grade C clubs but won't reach his peak for 4 years or more so not interested.

Odemwingie - at least he'll add some pace but when we persist with playing a lone striker even against dross like Blackburn at home, he'll soon become the back to goal type that is made to suffer. And he's not as good as Van Persie, and Wenger won't play two central strikers at the same time (why change a losing formula eh ?)

The latest one doing the rounds though is Higuain - that'll keep the AKBs happy till next week when we're linked with Caen's latest prodigy

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:52 am

I think he is quality and very much in the Eduardo mould, cheap and foreign, so Wenger should/will buy him..

Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:53 am

Play Theo as centre forward......no need to buy anyone there...the lad will nail 20+ and we all know it

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:05 am

SammyDroppedHisShorts wrote:Play Theo as centre forward......no need to buy anyone there...the lad will nail 20+ and we all know it

I agree with that. There will be some who disagree. Including AW.

Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:08 am

olgitgooner wrote:
SammyDroppedHisShorts wrote:Play Theo as centre forward......no need to buy anyone there...the lad will nail 20+ and we all know it
I agree with that. There will be some who disagree. Including AW.

The frustrating thing is that if coached to time his runs off the ball he could be as prolific a finisher than Ian Wright and that's saying something. Can you imagine how tactics would change if the lad was given freedom to play off the shoulder of those defensive cart horses we play against each week.....

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:09 am

Sammy and olgit are bang on!!

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:13 am

Wenger wont play walcott as central striker he needs him as cover for TV5 when he retires

augie · Post by **augie** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:49 am

olgitgooner wrote:
SammyDroppedHisShorts wrote:Play Theo as centre forward......no need to buy anyone there...the lad will nail 20+ and we all know it
I agree with that. There will be some who disagree. Including AW.

Cannot agree with that at all -

1. Theo is not a natural finisher despite what some some to think. I believe that if you checked out his goals to chances ratio it would be quite poor

2. Coached to make better runs ?? By fcuking who ? We dont have a manager to do it and I very much doubt we have a coach that can do it either. Lets face it lads, theo hasnt got the brains to either see or make the right runs

3. The guy would be squeezed out of the game far too easily when playing up the middle against any type of an organised defence. Worried about his speed then drop deep cos you know he will not be a penalty area poacher either. TA6 and that back line would catch the guy offside so many times it would make greedybayor look intelligent to the offside rule

Sat Jun 04, 2011 12:09 pm

Augie as always you are 100% correct......sorry

augie · Post by **augie** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 1:05 pm

SammyDroppedHisShorts wrote:Augie as always you are 100% correct......sorry

Sammy is that a pop at me ?

I dont think at any stage I told you that I was right and you were wrong but I did say that I couldnt agree with what you and olgit said and that was put forward (with reasons) as my opinion and not as fact or anything like that.

If my response has pissed you off enough to have a pop at me then I am surprised cos it aint as if we had run in's prior to this (at least to the best of my memory) and I certainly meant no offence