Cesc saga ending?

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SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.

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Dan_85 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.
I agree but im tired of all this will he wont he every summer and part of me wants it sorted one way or the other NOW

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Dan_85 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.
I would rather he fuck off than continually hold the club to ransom!!!

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Selling cesc would be the final dagger into the heart of this team and should (but wont) be the final dagger to wenger's reign as manager of our club. He is without question our best player in this squad and has given himself selflessly for wenger and the club for many a season now. Those that claim it is more important to keep nasri than cesc are off their fcuking trolley - cesc is our heartbeat, our figurehead and while he may not be a TA6 or a PV4 he is still without question the leader of this team

All that being said I do believe that we should let him go if he is definite in his wish to leave but only if we receive a transfer fee relative to his talents. If wenger and the club sell him for less than 40m sterling then each and every one of them should be executed in the centre circle before next season's opening home game. I dont give a continental fcuk about any supposed agreement struck last summer allowing cesc to go cos the deal still has to be right for the club and when you see henderson and carroll going to the mousers for 20m & 30m respectively and ibrahimovich going to barca for 50m+ then 40m would be a steal

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Rugby Gooner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.
I would rather he fuck off than continually hold the club to ransom!!!
How is he holding the club to ransom?

I am afraid that you wouldn't make a very good Somalian pirate!

:lol:

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Rugby Gooner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.
I would rather he fuck off than continually hold the club to ransom!!!
I think you've mistaken Fabregas for Nasri.

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augie wrote:Selling cesc would be the final dagger into the heart of this team and should (but wont) be the final dagger to wenger's reign as manager of our club. He is without question our best player in this squad and has given himself selflessly for wenger and the club for many a season now. Those that claim it is more important to keep nasri than cesc are off their fcuking trolley - cesc is our heartbeat, our figurehead and while he may not be a TA6 or a PV4 he is still without question the leader of this team

All that being said I do believe that we should let him go if he is definite in his wish to leave but only if we receive a transfer fee relative to his talents. If wenger and the club sell him for less than 40m sterling then each and every one of them should be executed in the centre circle before next season's opening home game. I dont give a continental fcuk about any supposed agreement struck last summer allowing cesc to go cos the deal still has to be right for the club and when you see henderson and carroll going to the mousers for 20m & 30m respectively and ibrahimovich going to barca for 50m+ then 40m would be a steal
He will be allowed to leave for way under his worth, most of us have known that since the whole saga began last season. That said, it wouldn't make any difference if he was sold for tuppence, as the fee won't be invested in the squad. Why would it, after all, as previous fees have all gone into the coffers of the club.
And lets be honest, when Wenger has splashed a bit of cash, he has rarely reaped rewards. Reyes, jeffers spring to mind and don't forget he was on the verge of spending really big on Baptista before being gazzumped.

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arseofacrow wrote:
Rugby Gooner wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
SteveO 35 wrote:Radio Catalunya boys - dear, dear.

Its Barcelona's equivalent of Arsenal.com. I wouldn't believe a single bloody word from there

Personally I don't want Fabregas to leave as we are incapable of signing top names anymore and when he goes we are left with just RvP in the "top drawer".

Ask yourself who this board and manager will sign to replace Cesc when he goes; it's all very well wanting him gone, but what will they do ?
Agreed, I don't want him to go. We look totally clueless without him. Anyone who thinks we'll be better off by getting rid of out best player is a fool.
I would rather he fuck off than continually hold the club to ransom!!!
How is he holding the club to ransom?

I am afraid that you wouldn't make a very good Somalian pirate!

:lol:
:coffeespit: (for the Somalian pirate quip).
I personally think that he,or his agent,(usually via that Guillume Balage arse),(excuse the spelling),engineer this "flirtation" every summer.Of course I would prefer him to stay,but I think that the continual,"will he,won't he" does the club more damage than if he just fucked off.You can hold people to ransom in ways other than financial.

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If we sell Fabregas, I'm sure we'll fall out of the top 4. He just cannot be replaced, especially by a penny pinching club like ours.

If he goes we need 5 or 6 quality signings. That wont happen.

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Irish Gooner wrote:If we sell Fabregas, I'm sure we'll fall out of the top 4. He just cannot be replaced, especially by a penny pinching club like ours.

If he goes we need 5 or 6 quality signings. That wont happen.
I remember us doing very nicely thank you without him!

The Cesc of 2 years ago is not the Cesc of today and I think we are frankly robbing anyone who pays over £20 million for him!

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Irish Gooner wrote:If we sell Fabregas, I'm sure we'll fall out of the top 4. He just cannot be replaced, especially by a penny pinching club like ours.

If he goes we need 5 or 6 quality signings. That wont happen.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see us play in the Europa League within the next 12 months, particularly if cesc goes.

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If Cesc does go I can imagine Nasri will sign straight away. He'ld be guranteed his prefered position, plus would free up the cash. ]

If Cesc goes, and the fee is big, the money HAS to be invested straight into the side. If we used the say 40 mil and signed 3 players along with some others that we've signed with the money available I'ld be happy.

If this isn't true this summer, Cesc needs to come out and say he's not leaving. But he isn't, so he's obviously off.

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Dan_85 wrote:
Irish Gooner wrote:If we sell Fabregas, I'm sure we'll fall out of the top 4. He just cannot be replaced, especially by a penny pinching club like ours.

If he goes we need 5 or 6 quality signings. That wont happen.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see us play in the Europa League within the next 12 months, particularly if cesc goes.
Get a grip, Cesc is a good player but he is not fit to clean the boots of Wright or Henry with regards to what they contributed to the club and we survived and moved on.

Cesc represents a failed era at the club so losing him will be bad but keep it in perspective, we are failing with him and if he stays will fail again, something drastic needs to change at the club and Cesc staying or going is only a small part of that.

Perspective.

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Gunnersaurus wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
Irish Gooner wrote:If we sell Fabregas, I'm sure we'll fall out of the top 4. He just cannot be replaced, especially by a penny pinching club like ours.

If he goes we need 5 or 6 quality signings. That wont happen.
Wouldn't be at all surprised to see us play in the Europa League within the next 12 months, particularly if cesc goes.
Get a grip, Cesc is a good player but he is not fit to clean the boots of Wright or Henry with regards to what they contributed to the club and we survived and moved on.
Cesc represents a failed era at the club so losing him will be bad but keep it in perspective, we are failing with him and if he stays will fail again, something drastic needs to change at the club and Cesc staying or going is only a small part of that.

Perspective.

Am I to understand when you say contribute you mean in terms of goals ? :? You can throw the name of henry out there but wright doesnt come near to being in the same bracket as TA6, PV4, Bergkamp and I would even say cesc as well. Ian Wright scored a shit lot of goals whilst playing for our club and in my time he has probably been the most natural goalscorer I have seen at the club but for wrighty everything was great as long as everything evolved around him but if it didnt....... :box: TA said many moons ago that we would never win a league with wrighty as our main striker and it was no coincidence that when he got squeezed out we did win a league but of course wrighty then threw a strop about not playing in the cup final :roll:

Anyway I digress.......cesc has been a star for this club and his contribution, his quality and importance is being badly disrespected by many Gooners now that he has looked to leave

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Say what you like about Wright but his goals speak for themselves and he also helped deliver the club the odd Cup, he played in a worse side, without his goals it would have been a lot worse, Fabregas has done nothing but get quite a few assists and be the star man of a failing team that has been built around him, in a sense your criticism of Wrighty needing the world to revolve around him can be levelled at Fabregas.

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