ARE ARSENAL STILL A BIG CLUB?
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Difficult to define, as for me there are all types of levels of big club. We're a big Club, but we're under-achieving big-time. Our ambitions AT THE MOMENT are not those of a big club, but just because we've under-achieved for 5 years doesn't erase 60 years of being a big club.
I think Babs is also confusing Big Club with Elite Club. For me the elite clubs in the world are as follows:
Man United
Liverpool
Barcelona
Real Madrid
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Inter Milan
Are we part of the all-time elite big clubs....... no.
We're on the next rung, which I would say includes
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man City (due to the money)
Benfica
Juventus
Atletico Madrid
I think Babs is also confusing Big Club with Elite Club. For me the elite clubs in the world are as follows:
Man United
Liverpool
Barcelona
Real Madrid
AC Milan
Bayern Munich
Inter Milan
Are we part of the all-time elite big clubs....... no.
We're on the next rung, which I would say includes
Arsenal
Chelsea
Man City (due to the money)
Benfica
Juventus
Atletico Madrid
The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.
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Fuck off Topcu#t. Why don't you fuck off and support Everton, Newcastle, Villa or Spurs.topcat wrote:The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.
frankbutcher wrote:Fuck off Topcu#t. Why don't you fuck off and support Everton, Newcastle, Villa or Spurs.topcat wrote:The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.

Cos i'm arsenal till i die. Good enough reason frank?
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If you think we're in the same boat as Leeds, Everton, Villa, Newcastle and Spurs, you ain't an Arsenal fan.topcat wrote:frankbutcher wrote:Fuck off Topcu#t. Why don't you fuck off and support Everton, Newcastle, Villa or Spurs.topcat wrote:The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.![]()
Cos i'm arsenal till i die. Good enough reason frank?

In the sense we're all big clubs going backwards, we're in the same boat.frankbutcher wrote:If you think we're in the same boat as Leeds, Everton, Villa, Newcastle and Spurs, you ain't an Arsenal fan.topcat wrote:frankbutcher wrote:Fuck off Topcu#t. Why don't you fuck off and support Everton, Newcastle, Villa or Spurs.topcat wrote:The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.![]()
Cos i'm arsenal till i die. Good enough reason frank?
Club size, yes we are the biggest out of them.
And don't call me a cu*t again....you cu*t.

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Sorry for calling you a c#nt.topcat wrote:In the sense we're all big clubs going backwards, we're in the same boat.frankbutcher wrote:If you think we're in the same boat as Leeds, Everton, Villa, Newcastle and Spurs, you ain't an Arsenal fan.topcat wrote:frankbutcher wrote:Fuck off Topcu#t. Why don't you fuck off and support Everton, Newcastle, Villa or Spurs.topcat wrote:The simple answer, like i said before is yes we are a big club.
But we're definitely not getting bigger.
I see us in a simular boat as :-
Everton, Villa, Newcastle, Spu*ds, Liverpool and Leeds. All big clubs really, most have got good history but all laking trophies now which means less support worldwide which means the they're all going backwards.
Teams that are going forward:-
Man City, for sure.
Man Utd, just keep doing it time and time again they could probably fill 100k a week at OT.
Chelsea were never a big club to go backwards, so i'd say they're only getting bigger too.![]()
Cos i'm arsenal till i die. Good enough reason frank?
Club size, yes we are the biggest out of them.
And don't call me a cu*t again....you cu*t.
C#nt.






Fucking hell, even Leeds United are still a big club and they've only won the top flight 3 times, got one FA Cup and were recently in league 1.
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