January"s Out and Ins want list

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:18 am

AGREE WITH 26MAY1989. I THINK DOWNING IS A NATURAL LEFT-FOOTER WITH PACE AND SKILL. WAS EXCELLENT WHEN HE FIRST BURST ONTO THE SCENE AND COULD BE A GOOD PLAYER IN A DECENT TEAM.

PEDERSON HASN'T GOT THE PACE TO BEAT PLAYERS ON THE OUTSIDE SO OF THE TWO SUGGESTIONS I WOULD PREFER DOWNING.

Charlie! Charlie! · Post by **Charlie! Charlie!** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:19 am

does aboglanhoar or young or neither play there for villa?

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:23 am

YOUNG DOES. WENGER WAS INTERESTED IN HIM BUT HIS TRANSFER FEE WAS TOO EXPENSIVE AT THE TIME. I WOULD IMAGINE IT'S GONE UP EVEN MORE NOW GIVEN HIS SOLID START TO THE SEASON.

Charlie! Charlie! · Post by **Charlie! Charlie!** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:26 am

Thanks IHH - he gets my vote for left side then!

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:08 pm

I like Ashley Young (much dissed by others on this forum for not being good enough) but I see him as being a bit like Eduardo - a striker who can play on the left, whereas I want a real left-winger.

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:02 pm

Stewart Downing where the fuck has this come from? I think he is very average.Shouldn"t we be looking to sign someone who is world class.And Downing is not that. Have you been at the wacky backy again IHH?

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm

No, Donaldo, it was me that started that one. Bit of a shocker I know. I still think there's an argument though.

We definitely need to buy a world class GK (next summer) and there's an argument for splashing the cash on a top-notch, big name striker too, but on the left flank we need a squad alternative to Rosicky, so a world class standard left-winger is not necessarily what we should pursue now. Unless we're going to sell Rosicky, which is a completely different situation.

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:21 pm

And my other eccentric suggestion, Riquelme, has just rejoined Boca permanently, so that's the end of that one.

augie · Post by **augie** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:59 pm

Some members on this forum have been adding their vote for the gilberto/van der vart swap deal but I have a question on that ? If gilberto goes to juve and the dutchie comes from hamburg how does that class as a swap deal ?

I like van der vart is a player but would only take him if rosicky was on the way out and I still hope that little tommy can be a great player for us. The dutchman is similar in that he too is a centre midfielder(aint they all

) but he has a powerful shot on him and if he could adapt and would be willing to adapt to the wing then he would be a good signing.

That said my opinion that we have more pressing problems remains unchanged. Are those of you that are saying that we should buy a new keeper in the summer writing off this season ? If we really believe(and not just talking the talk) that we are genuine challengers for trophies this season then we need to buy now surely ? If it costs big money to buy buffon then why not spend it cos I am sick to the teeth of the bullshit statements claiming how rich we are and how much we have to spend on players - if we have then we have to be prepared to spend it. If, and I know we are only specualting here, le boss thinks we need a stronger keeper(or any other position for that matter) in the summer then to me it says that he doesnt think player x,y or z is good enough and if they aint good enough in the summer how can they be good enough now ? To me there aint no logic in that unless we dont have the finances in place for January. God I feel all those frustrated moments of summer returning fast as we approach another transfer window - I cant take much more of this help so somebody please get le boss to buy a few quality players of failing that bring back David Dein

:wink

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:20 pm

augie wrote:Are those of you that are saying that we should buy a new keeper in the summer writing off this season ? If we really believe(and not just talking the talk) that we are genuine challengers for trophies this season then we need to buy now surely ? If it costs big money to buy buffon then why not spend it

Buffon's the one exception to waiting till the summer to sign a new GK, since he won't be Euro-cup tied and he is good enough. If (which I seriously doubt) Juve can be convinced to sell him in January and if (which I also doubt) Buffon would be willing to join us, then yes, let's go and spend zillions on getting him in January. What I see no point in doing is signing a very good but not tip-top GK in January (Given, Jaaskaleinen etc). I'd rather play Jens till the end of the year, and try and get Cassillas, Buffon or someone similar in the summer. A keeper isn't just for Xmas after all...

And Dein is, as you know, a fucking arsehole.

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:49 pm

There were stories doing the rounds that Juve may have been tempted to part with Buffon when they were relegated last year for a reasonable fee.I cant see Madrid selling Cassillas unless we offer Cesc in return. But if Jens leaves in Jan as i think he will is Fabianski good enough backup for Almunia till the end of the season when we can buy a new keeper next summer.

26may1989 · Post by **26may1989** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:08 pm

donaldo wrote:There were stories doing the rounds that Juve may have been tempted to part with Buffon when they were relegated last year for a reasonable fee.I cant see Madrid selling Cassillas unless we offer Cesc in return. But if Jens leaves in Jan as i think he will is Fabianski good enough backup for Almunia till the end of the season when we can buy a new keeper next summer.

First, no, no, no to having only Almunia and Fabianski for the critical half of the season - if that happens, frankly, we may as well just give up now. We absolutely have to have three keepers. Almunia is just not good enough to be first choice and Fabianski is going to take a long time (a year, perhaps two) before he's ready to face battle week in, week out.

Keep an eye on Cassillas - he's been messed around by Real before, and made a point of starting to learn English last time it happened (about a year ago). I'm not saying it's going to happen but it could, and if we want the best, he fits the bill.

As you say, Buffon might have been more gettable when they were sent down to Serie B, but now? Going to be tough, I'd say, especially since Juve will almost certainly be back in the Champs' League next year. The problems in Italian football could help us though.

augie · Post by **augie** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:41 pm

Again its the cynical side coming out in me when I agree that it is unlikely someone like buffon would agree to sign for us cos we still aint seen as a proper giant club in europe. Without wishing to appear racist but I also feel that the italians are more introverted in that they still believe that they are in the best league and do not want to move elsewhere. Personally I would prefer casillas anyway but as he is cup tied and we def need a top class keeper asap then buffon would be the next logical choice. Again I 100% agree with the feeling that keeping almunia as 1st choice is tantamount to surrendering the rest of the season and none of us want that.

Interesting question for all you optimists out there - we have started much better than I certainly felt we would and have gotten us to a position where we have a chance to challenge this season. If however we fall away in the 2nd half of the season as a result of lack of squad size, lack of quality keeper etc who will you all blame ? I asked this question in the summer when I wasnt expecting a start as good as this but in my opinion to fall away now after the great start we have had would be much worse. Maybe by me asking this question it will ensure that no collapse will happen ??

highburyJD · Post by **highburyJD** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:42 pm

I'd far rather have mgp than downing
not left footed but the outside of his right is as good as any left - quaresma
if I could get any prem defender I'd buy big black samba- he's pure class
I know lescott was poor the other night but I've r8d him since wolves and we where linked with him then so maybe wenger has2
both would be quite expensive - as would all the left wingers we've mentioned
vela's not eligible for a work permit till march I think
I've always rated djourou ahead of senderos

Charlie! Charlie! · Post by **Charlie! Charlie!** » Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:46 pm

highburyJD wrote:I'd far rather have mgp than downing
not left footed but the outside of his right is as good as any left - quaresma

mgp?