"Please,please,please,(Walcott),just fucking fuck off

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Post by northbankbren »

He really done nothing at all today. Apart from the goal, and thats not being sarky, he should have had 3 at least today. An impact player off the bench on his form...at best.

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northbankbren wrote:He really done nothing at all today. Apart from the goal, and thats not being sarky, he should have had 3 at least today. An impact player off the bench on his form...at best.
Stick to boxing son. :lol:

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QuartzGooner wrote:
Number 5 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Agree.

Add Eastmond to that list.

Theo is a Premiership level player, but being played in not his best position, in a team that is focused on Van Persie to the fulfillment of Van Persie but the detriment of the rest of the team.

I would keep Theo for next season, despite the flak I will take on here for saying that.
That, is just not true.

Van Persie, before Wenger switched it, was never a player who played the centre role of a front three on his own. Even for Holland.

He played wide for them and one of a two for us.

Wenger didn't introduce this 4-3-3 bollocks to satisfy Van Persie. It was done, hilariously, to solidify our midfield.

He is just such a good player that you can put him anywhere on the pitch and good things will happen.

Make no mistake, the detriment of this team is the complete averageness of it's players and piss poor tactical instructions from its management.

Not anything Van Persie has done or will continue to do.
I think you took my point in a way that I did not intend.

I did not mean that the team was poor because of what Van Persie does, just that a few other players in the team seem not to be in their best positions.

The current set up suits Van Persie to a tee, as he is banging in the goals and is better as a central front man than as a wide player, in my opinion.

But how many others are really shining?

With the current players, I favour a 4-4-2 over what what play now.
Sit Arteta and Song in the middle.
With The Ox and Gervinho wide.
Up front play Theo/Ramsey and RvP.

And I favour splashing a load of cash on new players over any tactical change.
And I think you mistook mine.

The set up now suits Van Persie because he is probably the only player who has actually made the most out of the change in formation. Not through Wenger's man management or that he was finally put in a positon that suited him but because he a fucking hell of a player.

But do not be mistaken, it wasn't changed with him in mind, we went with 3-5 in the middle of the park to help the alarming number of goals we were conceeding.

The players who are not in their best positons and playing woefully is all Wenger and his idea of Wengerball.

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Post by Gunnersaurus »

This formation was changed to suit Cesc IMO, once he left it had no reason to continue even more so when Cesc wasn't replaced, van Persie adapted and made it work, I'm sure he would love to have a proper partner to play with.

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Number 5 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Number 5 wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
Cockerill's chin wrote:Walcott was poor again today, apart from a good finish. I don't buy into this footballing brain. A brain is a brain, why listen to a scum, geordie sausage packer who detests Walcott?

He started the season quite well with important goals against Udinese and some good assists for RVP. I thought he was going to take a step forward this year but he is reverting to his uninfluential self.

It's harsh to say he hasn't excelled for 6 years, he is only 22 and there aren't many players who can influence a game aged 16-22. Lots of players were poor today, especially Ramsey. Having said that, to justify the hype that surrounded him, Walcott needs to take his game up a level and maintain it (if he has another level in his locker).

Those who say he is not an Arsenal quality player have time-warped glasses. We aren't quality anymore. Arsenal are at his level. Personally, I'd start the clearout with Arshavin, Chamakh, Squillaci, Djourou and Diaby before I get to Theo.
Agree.

Add Eastmond to that list.

Theo is a Premiership level player, but being played in not his best position, in a team that is focused on Van Persie to the fulfillment of Van Persie but the detriment of the rest of the team.

I would keep Theo for next season, despite the flak I will take on here for saying that.
That, is just not true.

Van Persie, before Wenger switched it, was never a player who played the centre role of a front three on his own. Even for Holland.

He played wide for them and one of a two for us.

Wenger didn't introduce this 4-3-3 bollocks to satisfy Van Persie. It was done, hilariously, to solidify our midfield.

He is just such a good player that you can put him anywhere on the pitch and good things will happen.

Make no mistake, the detriment of this team is the complete averageness of it's players and piss poor tactical instructions from its management.

Not anything Van Persie has done or will continue to do.
I think you took my point in a way that I did not intend.

I did not mean that the team was poor because of what Van Persie does, just that a few other players in the team seem not to be in their best positions.

The current set up suits Van Persie to a tee, as he is banging in the goals and is better as a central front man than as a wide player, in my opinion.

But how many others are really shining?

With the current players, I favour a 4-4-2 over what what play now.
Sit Arteta and Song in the middle.
With The Ox and Gervinho wide.
Up front play Theo/Ramsey and RvP.

And I favour splashing a load of cash on new players over any tactical change.
And I think you mistook mine.

The set up now suits Van Persie because he is probably the only player who has actually made the most out of the change in formation. Not through Wenger's man management or that he was finally put in a positon that suited him but because he a fucking hell of a player.

But do not be mistaken, it wasn't changed with him in mind, we went with 3-5 in the middle of the park to help the alarming number of goals we were conceeding.

The players who are not in their best positons and playing woefully is all Wenger and his idea of Wengerball.
I agree with Gunnersaurus and you, it was changed to suit Cesc.

And to add to that, it was changed to suit the absence of Vieira (and the 2007-2008 version of Flamini), which has cost us defensively (and offensively).

Song is not as bad as some label him, but the fact is we have won nothing since Vieira left.

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Post by Bendtners Drinking Buddy »

Joke of a footballer, how many games does he have to play before people realise he is not good enough for us!!

Like playing with 10 men every time he plays, one goal doesnt detract from an awful, gutless performance - again.

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Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:Joke of a footballer, how many games does he have to play before people realise he is not good enough for us!!

Like playing with 10 men every time he plays, one goal doesnt detract from an awful, gutless performance - again.
He should fit in well with our team and Wengers philosophy.

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I thought Walcott scored a well taken goal yesterday.

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Red Member wrote:I thought Walcott scored a well taken goal yesterday.
Yeah his first since October!
Can anyone remember his last goal at The Emirates too...

Yes it was a well taken goal but our level expectation has reached such a point that now we are praising Walcott stuff we used to take for granted from Overmars, Ljungberg and Pires.

His sixth anniversary at the club is up this week - for a few more at 4,420,000 per annum - NO THANKS!

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Post by louis2 »

walcott has been very poor for the last 12 months, no fight, no guts, no brain, no final ball, offers little to the team, oxlade runs at defenders, he is direct young and aggresive, dont get me started on arshavin, truly woeful yesterday.
fair play to swansea, but we made them look alot better than they were.
we missed arteta,( and we are still missing, gibbs,vermarlen,wilshire,sagna,santos,jenkinson.)
bad day.

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http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8 ... ns-the-key

Theo Walcott set for Arsenal contract talks with future plans the key


Theo Walcott is set to meet Arsene Wenger in the next few weeks, as Arsenal look to step up contract talks with the wingher, who has just 18 months left on his current deal.

Wenger has already held two rounds of informal talks with Walcott and his representatives, and is keen to step up the negotiations in the coming weeks.

The Frenchman is keen to avoid the same situation that developed over Samir Nasri in the summer, when the midfielder forced through a transfer to Manchester City after entering the final year of his contract.

The early prognosis is good, with Walcott happy at the Emirates Stadium and keen to agree fresh terms, but the England international wants to seek assurances over the future of the club, with Arsenal in genuine danger of missing out on Champions League football for next season.

The key to convincing Walcott to stay is likely to come down to wage demands, with Wenger, and chief negotiator Richard Law, wary that the player is said to want as much as £100,000-a-week to renew, plus clarification over bonus and image clauses, that are thought to be worth up to £5 million a year.

As the talks have progressed, Walcott has also been made aware of interest from overseas, with Italian outfit Juventus interested, while Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola is a huge admirer, having previously remarked: 'You would need a pistol to stop him.'

Arsenal though, are hopeful Walcott will set a precedent by signing on at the end of the season, with Robin van Persie, Tomas Rosicky and Wojciech Szczesny among those the Gunners are also keen to secure to new deals.

Further developments are expected after the informal meetings, that should take place in the next fortnight.

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....and why wouldn't he be happy with us, no competition for his place, consistently shit, if Wenger could get something right for once it would be to tell this cowpat of a 'player' to fuck off.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post by Bendtners Drinking Buddy »

I seriously wouldnt give a shit if he left for nothing, he is one of the most overrated footballers in the Premiership - and none of this "oh but he is only young, Henry took a while to come good" Walcott doesnt have the brain, composure or intellect to be a top level footballer - he is Average at very best.

People wonder why Song has to come and get involved up front - its because for some reason we are reliant on this drip actually getting involved in the game. Song is by no means a World Class footballer, and maybe not suited to a defensive midfield role - but he has a number of assists this season - putting this plum in the shade.
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franksav63 wrote:http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8 ... ns-the-key

Theo Walcott set for Arsenal contract talks with future plans the key


Theo Walcott is set to meet Arsene Wenger in the next few weeks, as Arsenal look to step up contract talks with the wingher, who has just 18 months left on his current deal.

Wenger has already held two rounds of informal talks with Walcott and his representatives, and is keen to step up the negotiations in the coming weeks.

The Frenchman is keen to avoid the same situation that developed over Samir Nasri in the summer, when the midfielder forced through a transfer to Manchester City after entering the final year of his contract.

The early prognosis is good, with Walcott happy at the Emirates Stadium and keen to agree fresh terms, but the England international wants to seek assurances over the future of the club, with Arsenal in genuine danger of missing out on Champions League football for next season.

The key to convincing Walcott to stay is likely to come down to wage demands, with Wenger, and chief negotiator Richard Law, wary that the player is said to want as much as £100,000-a-week to renew, plus clarification over bonus and image clauses, that are thought to be worth up to £5 million a year.

As the talks have progressed, Walcott has also been made aware of interest from overseas, with Italian outfit Juventus interested, while Barcelona coach Pep Guardiola is a huge admirer, having previously remarked: 'You would need a pistol to stop him.'

Arsenal though, are hopeful Walcott will set a precedent by signing on at the end of the season, with Robin van Persie, Tomas Rosicky and Wojciech Szczesny among those the Gunners are also keen to secure to new deals.

Further developments are expected after the informal meetings, that should take place in the next fortnight.

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:banghead:

....and why wouldn't he be happy with us, no competition for his place, consistently shit, if Wenger could get something right for once it would be to tell this cowpat of a 'player' to fuck off.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
WALCUNT WANTS £100K BASIC SALARY?????

HE CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF

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Since when should we believe what is written in the press about a player's negotiating position at the start of wage negotiations!

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Post by Blade »

I have never seen a player with such a bad 1st touch and such a lousy cross.

But these two things can be worked on and improved how come NO IMPROVEMENT?

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