WONDERFUL ARTICLE

[brazilianGOONER]

you know baba, i used to be a guy filled with hatred, but i learned one thing with mono, usmartin and red member, and that is that people like you need to be hated and questioned, you feel good about all these.

in some forums, it is a bunch of fellas trying to show who's smartest, who's richest, who fucks more pussy, etc. but here it is about who has the most transgressive and extreme opinions, who turns more attention to themselves. you like that game, you little whore. that is why you are here. every forum has those show offs, the odds are there will be a whore like you among every X number of people in the planet, so it's really a matter of statistics.

i'm not, however, and i do not give a tiny little diminutive piece of crap to what you think, speak or post about anything fucking thing - and of all the things i don't give a crap (which is everything about you) the one thing that i least give a fuck about is what you think of me as an arsenal supporter. really, nada, nothing, nichts. i simply do not care.

but please mate, keep entertaining us.

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

yeah, you do love this, don't ya little whore?

i'm not joining the 'fondness party' with you because, as i said, i really don't care about what you think or post as you are just trying to get everyone's attention.

i know you'd absolutely love it, but i'm not carrying this any further as there are people who probably want to keep discussing the main topic of the thread - and i have many better things to do with my time anyway.

love,

bG

[Babatunde]

you know baba, i used to be a guy filled with hatred, but i learned one thing with mono, usmartin and red member, and that is that people like you need to be hated and questioned, you feel good about all these.

in some forums, it is a bunch of fellas trying to show who's smartest, who's richest, who fucks more pussy, etc. but here it is about who has the most transgressive and extreme opinions, who turns more attention to themselves. you like that game, you little whore. that is why you are here. every forum has those show offs, the odds are there will be a whore like you among every X number of people in the planet, so it's really a matter of statistics.

i'm not, however, and i do not give a tiny little diminutive piece of crap to what you think, speak or post about anything fucking thing - and of all the things i don't give a crap (which is everything about you) the one thing that i least give a fuck about is what you think of me as an arsenal supporter. really, nada, nothing, nichts. i simply do not care.

but please mate, keep entertaining us.

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

Islington's not on a Tube map.

Therefore High and Islington on the Victoria line tube map would count as....??

I can understand how that might be construed as a trick question for BG though

It's like the old classic about Stoke Newington tube station. Know where that one is on the map BG? Answers on a beautiful postcard please! Mwah xxx

[Babatunde]

you know baba, i used to be a guy filled with hatred, but i learned one thing with mono, usmartin and red member, and that is that people like you need to be hated and questioned, you feel good about all these.

in some forums, it is a bunch of fellas trying to show who's smartest, who's richest, who fucks more pussy, etc. but here it is about who has the most transgressive and extreme opinions, who turns more attention to themselves. you like that game, you little whore. that is why you are here. every forum has those show offs, the odds are there will be a whore like you among every X number of people in the planet, so it's really a matter of statistics.

i'm not, however, and i do not give a tiny little diminutive piece of crap to what you think, speak or post about anything fucking thing - and of all the things i don't give a crap (which is everything about you) the one thing that i least give a fuck about is what you think of me as an arsenal supporter. really, nada, nothing, nichts. i simply do not care.

but please mate, keep entertaining us.

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

yeah, you do love this, don't ya little whore?

i'm not joining the 'fondness party' with you because, as i said, i really don't care about what you think or post as you are just trying to get everyone's attention.

i know you'd absolutely love it, but i'm not carrying this any further as there are people who probably want to keep discussing the main topic of the thread - and i have many better things to do with my time anyway.

love,

bG

The Ladyboy doth protest too much.

Hurry along now...oh and if you care so much about keeping things on topic, you wouldn't have spent half the thread bitching like a hamster who just got gang-raped. Off you go Supafan...

xxx

[skipper]

This crap, claiming that somehow winning league by more points is better achievement than going whole season unbeaten, was tried few weeks ago on TalkShite by that tosser Adrian Whatshissurname and we all know how much he despises Arsenal...I switched back to BBC6 right away...you simply cannot be an Arsenal fan and not be offended by such moronic statement...

[Boomer]

you know baba, i used to be a guy filled with hatred, but i learned one thing with mono, usmartin and red member, and that is that people like you need to be hated and questioned, you feel good about all these.

in some forums, it is a bunch of fellas trying to show who's smartest, who's richest, who fucks more pussy, etc. but here it is about who has the most transgressive and extreme opinions, who turns more attention to themselves. you like that game, you little whore. that is why you are here. every forum has those show offs, the odds are there will be a whore like you among every X number of people in the planet, so it's really a matter of statistics.

i'm not, however, and i do not give a tiny little diminutive piece of crap to what you think, speak or post about anything fucking thing - and of all the things i don't give a crap (which is everything about you) the one thing that i least give a fuck about is what you think of me as an arsenal supporter. really, nada, nothing, nichts. i simply do not care.

but please mate, keep entertaining us.

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

Islington's not on a Tube map.

Therefore High and Islington on the Victoria line tube map would count as....??

A: Highbury &Islington not Islington.

[DB10GOONER]

The article in question does make a couple of valid points but it is all too obviously written by some arsehole that has had the hate for Arsenal for years and now finally has the chance to put a couple of kicks in. Yeah yeah he dresses it up as "unbiased" and "balanced" but that is just window dressing bollocks to try and justify his putting the boot in without devaluing his piece. For me he fails.

The Chav point total comparison is the work of a fuckwit tbh.

There's a few people on here need to stop letting their hatred of Wenger overpower their love of Arsenal.

[Babatunde]

you know baba, i used to be a guy filled with hatred, but i learned one thing with mono, usmartin and red member, and that is that people like you need to be hated and questioned, you feel good about all these.

in some forums, it is a bunch of fellas trying to show who's smartest, who's richest, who fucks more pussy, etc. but here it is about who has the most transgressive and extreme opinions, who turns more attention to themselves. you like that game, you little whore. that is why you are here. every forum has those show offs, the odds are there will be a whore like you among every X number of people in the planet, so it's really a matter of statistics.

i'm not, however, and i do not give a tiny little diminutive piece of crap to what you think, speak or post about anything fucking thing - and of all the things i don't give a crap (which is everything about you) the one thing that i least give a fuck about is what you think of me as an arsenal supporter. really, nada, nothing, nichts. i simply do not care.

but please mate, keep entertaining us.

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

Islington's not on a Tube map.

Therefore High and Islington on the Victoria line tube map would count as....??

A: Highbury &Islington not Islington.

LOL Boomer.

Ssssshhh don't tell BG! He might get lost on his way to the gorund next time he comes down to give a lecture on 'how to support Arsenal'....

[skipper]

I'd love to take any of your Fisher Price pseudo-intellectual psychotherapy seriously...but aside from your innate imbecility, I find it hard to take seriously anyone who can't point to Islington on a tube map!!

It seems that for someone who claims to be sooo unflustered, the Ladyboy doth protest too much...

Islington's not on a Tube map.

Therefore High and Islington on the Victoria line tube map would count as....??

A: Highbury &Islington not Islington.

LOL Boomer.

Ssssshhh don't tell BG! He might get lost on his way to the gorund next time he comes down to give a lecture on 'how to support Arsenal'....

That geezer travelled half across the globe to watch the Arsenal.

[brazilianGOONER]

This crap, claiming that somehow winning league by more points is better achievement than going whole season unbeaten, was tried few weeks ago on TalkShite by that tosser Adrian Whatshissurname and we all know how much he despises Arsenal...I switched back to BBC6 right away...you simply cannot be an Arsenal fan and not be offended by such moronic statement...

i can put some personal experience on that very subject because here in brazil there's also only one team who won the league unbeaten, and that's in a time when the brazilian league was a bit like the CL (group phase and then knockout phase) meaning the winning club only played 23 matches, in 1979.

they are the biggest rivals to my childhood club, they're the club we would've faced had we beaten barcelona in 2006, Internacional. their fans obviously sing so proud of their fucking unbeaten title of over thirty years ago, but truth is that everyone in brazil slags them off, and i know because i've been there before, it's all envy. it's the kind of thing every supporter would like to able to say - there was one year, and no one else did it - where we were perfect. no one could beat us, we were absolutely unbeatable, invincible. i used to tell Internacional supporters how meaningless it was, until i saw the Arsenal do it on the telly, i watched probably every single game of that campaign, fuck me, you guys know the feeling! the feeling that no one can beat you, that you are a machine of stuffing opponents.

and if you can't have it, or never got close to it, then you just say it does not matter, or that something that your club did was better than winning the league unbeaten. nonsense. it is incredibly HUGE and it's something every chelsea fan would give their life to have.

i'm sure baba says it's all overrated, but he would love if his beloved spurs won the league unbeaten. and since he knows it's not happening, he gets all bitchy about it. that's all, just envy.

[Babatunde]

The article in question does make a couple of valid points but it is all too obviously written by some arsehole that has had the hate for Arsenal for years and now finally has the chance to put a couple of kicks in. Yeah yeah he dresses it up as "unbiased" and "balanced" but that is just window dressing bollocks to try and justify his putting the boot in without devaluing his piece. For me he fails.

The Chav point total comparison is the work of a fuckwit tbh.

There's a few people on here need to stop letting their hatred of Wenger overpower their love of Arsenal.

DB10. I see your point and of course, the Invincibles was a massive achievement. However answer me this please if you could.

1. Do you think a Treble is a bigger achievement?
2. If a team goes unbeaten in a season, and wins the league but draws every single one of its away games for instance....but wins every home game (that would be enough to win the league with 76 points in a crap year).....Now that's unbeaten, but do you think it's better than say an Arsenal team going a whole season losing not more than twice but accumulating more points? I am talking statistically speaking here?

The Invincibles is a unique achievement that is undeniable. However what I just do not get, is how it is somehow indicative of an agenda, if anyone questions whether it is a bigger achievement than say e.g. a Treble, or even a Double?

Because ultimately, you win the one trophy.

Like I said. Amazing achievement, but the guy writing the article does make the point that it needs to be put in context: does Wenger's current performance become exonerated because of the Invincibles? Is that enough you seriously think?

[Babatunde]

This crap, claiming that somehow winning league by more points is better achievement than going whole season unbeaten, was tried few weeks ago on TalkShite by that tosser Adrian Whatshissurname and we all know how much he despises Arsenal...I switched back to BBC6 right away...you simply cannot be an Arsenal fan and not be offended by such moronic statement...

i can put some personal experience on that very subject because here in brazil there's also only one team who won the league unbeaten, and that's in a time when the brazilian league was a bit like the CL (group phase and then knockout phase) meaning the winning club only played 23 matches, in 1979.

they are the biggest rivals to my childhood club, they're the club we would've faced had we beaten barcelona in 2006, Internacional. their fans obviously sing so proud of their fucking unbeaten title of over thirty years ago, but truth is that everyone in brazil slags them off, and i know because i've been there before, it's all envy. it's the kind of thing every supporter would like to able to say - there was one year, and no one else did it - where we were perfect. no one could beat us, we were absolutely unbeatable, invincible. i used to tell Internacional supporters how meaningless it was, until i saw the Arsenal do it on the telly, i watched probably every single game of that campaign, fuck me, you guys know the feeling! the feeling that no one can beat you, that you are a machine of stuffing opponents.

and if you can't have it, or never got close to it, then you just say it does not matter, or that something that your club did was better than winning the league unbeaten. nonsense. it is incredibly HUGE and it's something every chelsea fan would give their life to have.

i'm sure baba says it's all overrated, but he would love if his beloved spurs won the league unbeaten. and since he knows it's not happening, he gets all bitchy about it. that's all, just envy.

Hi Supafan. I thought you said you weren't going to continue addressing me? Why don't you keep to your word then? You can't help yourself can you! Hah. Supafan calls me a Spud. Superb. Uh huh.

Like I said: would you know the difference even between N17 and East 17!
If you're gonna call me a Spud at least be sure to know your bloody geography boy!

[skipper]

This crap, claiming that somehow winning league by more points is better achievement than going whole season unbeaten, was tried few weeks ago on TalkShite by that tosser Adrian Whatshissurname and we all know how much he despises Arsenal...I switched back to BBC6 right away...you simply cannot be an Arsenal fan and not be offended by such moronic statement...

i can put some personal experience on that very subject because here in brazil there's also only one team who won the league unbeaten, and that's in a time when the brazilian league was a bit like the CL (group phase and then knockout phase) meaning the winning club only played 23 matches, in 1979.

they are the biggest rivals to my childhood club, they're the club we would've faced had we beaten barcelona in 2006, Internacional. their fans obviously sing so proud of their fucking unbeaten title of over thirty years ago, but truth is that everyone in brazil slags them off, and i know because i've been there before, it's all envy. it's the kind of thing every supporter would like to able to say - there was one year, and no one else did it - where we were perfect. no one could beat us, we were absolutely unbeatable, invincible. i used to tell Internacional supporters how meaningless it was, until i saw the Arsenal do it on the telly, i watched probably every single game of that campaign, fuck me, you guys know the feeling! the feeling that no one can beat you, that you are a machine of stuffing opponents.

and if you can't have it, or never got close to it, then you just say it does not matter, or that something that your club did was better than winning the league unbeaten. nonsense. it is incredibly HUGE and it's something every chelsea fan would give their life to have.

i'm sure baba says it's all overrated, but he would love if his beloved spurs won the league unbeaten. and since he knows it's not happening, he gets all bitchy about it. that's all, just envy.

You just can't read that article and the come here and start a thread entitled "Wonderful article" unless you're Y** or some other shit club supporting *word censored*.

FACT!

[safcftm]

Decent article but the bit that lets him down is this....

'After all, during the following season Chelsea lost one game and yet ended up with five more points and then lost five and ended up with one point more. So how earth-shattering was that 90-point season really? It depends on how you want to view it....'

Being the first club in over 100 years to go unbeaten, in an era when there are more teams and stiffer competition, and doing something NONE of the other great sides in English football history has achieved is, was and deserves always to be considered 'earth shattering'.

Personally I think you're slightly missing his point (I might be wrong though). His point isnt that going unbeaten all season isnt an amazing, unique in the modern game achievement, it obviously is, but the article is focussed purely on Wenger and the way some (AKB's as you'd call them) have elevated him to an unreasonable level beyond what he has actually achieved. The Invincibles season was stunning but his point is simply that a lot of AKB's seem to attach much more significance to it and seem to think that it tells them much more about Wenger's ability than it really does.

In terms of points (which is a better way of judging how "good" a side is since you could, technically, go unbeaten all season and still get relegated), it was a very good haul but not the best ever- does Wenger deserve more praise for being unbeaten (obviously with luck along the way as any great achievement needs) on 90 points than someone who loses one game and gets 95? Personally I dont think so. I think it will be remembered more by the fans, but I dont think it proves him to be the better manager than the bloke who lost a game but got more points, especially when the other bloke managed to retain the title and has won european trophies in his career.

It certainly wasnt a good enough achievement to mean he can win fuck all else and not be questioned. The Invincibles were amazing but they didnt win back to back titles, Wenger has never brought the Champions League to London, he had a great side which, ultimately, could be argued to have underperformed in terms of trophies and titles won and when it disbanded he has been unable to replace it adequately. He is a very good manager, but all the author of the article is saying is that some Arsenal fans have built him up far too much because of the style of play (which initially was effective) and because of the "freak" of going unbeaten all season. I think most on here agree with that tbh, most cant stand the AKB's, most dont want the admittedly great achievement of the Invincibles to mean that Wenger can win fuck all and tread water for years without being under pressure. Its not a dig at the achievement, its a dig at the way the achievement has been seen by some to prove more about Wenger's ability as a manager than it really does, and its a fair point imo

[brazilianGOONER]

This crap, claiming that somehow winning league by more points is better achievement than going whole season unbeaten, was tried few weeks ago on TalkShite by that tosser Adrian Whatshissurname and we all know how much he despises Arsenal...I switched back to BBC6 right away...you simply cannot be an Arsenal fan and not be offended by such moronic statement...

i can put some personal experience on that very subject because here in brazil there's also only one team who won the league unbeaten, and that's in a time when the brazilian league was a bit like the CL (group phase and then knockout phase) meaning the winning club only played 23 matches, in 1979.

they are the biggest rivals to my childhood club, they're the club we would've faced had we beaten barcelona in 2006, Internacional. their fans obviously sing so proud of their fucking unbeaten title of over thirty years ago, but truth is that everyone in brazil slags them off, and i know because i've been there before, it's all envy. it's the kind of thing every supporter would like to able to say - there was one year, and no one else did it - where we were perfect. no one could beat us, we were absolutely unbeatable, invincible. i used to tell Internacional supporters how meaningless it was, until i saw the Arsenal do it on the telly, i watched probably every single game of that campaign, fuck me, you guys know the feeling! the feeling that no one can beat you, that you are a machine of stuffing opponents.

and if you can't have it, or never got close to it, then you just say it does not matter, or that something that your club did was better than winning the league unbeaten. nonsense. it is incredibly HUGE and it's something every chelsea fan would give their life to have.

i'm sure baba says it's all overrated, but he would love if his beloved spurs won the league unbeaten. and since he knows it's not happening, he gets all bitchy about it. that's all, just envy.

You just can't read that article and the come here and start a thread entitled "Wonderful article" unless you're Y** or some other shit club supporting *word censored*.

FACT!

what sort of pathetic creature would, instead of accepting his club's greatest achievement as a fantastic and unique glory, keep trying to question what honours are in fact the most important as a whole and prefer to hate everything about the club instead of have the minimal respect for the wonderful achievements managed by the people who are still at the club now?

i tell you... the little whore

it requires more than a quarter of a brain to admit that he who's completely wrong now could have been right before, and vice-versa. for him, you have to be a fraud or a hero, there's no in-between.

[safcftm]

You just can't read that article and the come here and start a thread entitled "Wonderful article" unless you're Y** or some other shit club supporting *word censored*.
FACT!

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