Sunday Matches

[SteveO 35]

What an utterly miserable weekend

The predicted collapse is upon us. Sitting comfortably in third with games left against Wigan, a completely fucked Chelsea Reserves and Norwich at home, and Stoke and West Brom away - only one team in the PL could fuck that up, and just watch it happen.

Everyone's getting all fucking jumpy about finishing 4th and the Chavs winning the CL - jesus, I wish it was that easy. Quite expecting Chelsea and Spurs to win their remaining games now and leave us 5th

As IHH has said, isn't it amazing how the two teams that have played the most games this season - Stoke and Chelsea - looked every bit as fresh as we did yesterday. Just piss off Wenger - you are making my football life a total sodding misery and embarrassing the club with your pathetic comments and touchline antics

[I Hate Hleb]

The point gained yesterday, which people were saying was good only in light of the Newcastle result, doesn't look so clever now does it? If we'd won the Wigan and Chelsea games as expected we wouldn't be sat here shitting ourselves as to how the Chavs and Spuds will do!!

[g88ner]

Going back to the Chelsea result: it's amazing how they can play 5 games in 14 days including a FA Cup Semi, 2 Champion's League Semi's against the 'best team in the world' plus 2 London Derbies and still get results in all of them, yet our manager compalins about 'tiredness' and 'hand-brakes' when we've played a couple of games in 8 or 9 days!!

You often hear people say that winning teams don't need a rest. Chelsea are high on confidence and have built momentum. They've certainly not been like this all season, or they wouldn't be 6th!

Without confidence, players don't play with the same freedom (i.e. Wenger's famous handbrake) and teams that are struggling for confidence, momentum and results do seem to be the tired teams, which does make sense.

[donaldo]

Going back to the Chelsea result: it's amazing how they can play 5 games in 14 days including a FA Cup Semi, 2 Champion's League Semi's against the 'best team in the world' plus 2 London Derbies and still get results in all of them, yet our manager compalins about 'tiredness' and 'hand-brakes' when we've played a couple of games in 8 or 9 days!!

IHH its called having a squad.Take a look at our bench yesterday.

[I Hate Hleb]

Makes sense g88ner but then what was the excuse for our defeat and performance to QPR after 7 straight wins? And there are numerous other examples that can prove that kind of 'psychology' to be nonsense!!

[I Hate Hleb]

Going back to the Chelsea result: it's amazing how they can play 5 games in 14 days including a FA Cup Semi, 2 Champion's League Semi's against the 'best team in the world' plus 2 London Derbies and still get results in all of them, yet our manager compalins about 'tiredness' and 'hand-brakes' when we've played a couple of games in 8 or 9 days!!

IHH its called having a squad.Take a look at our bench yesterday.

Hang on - I kept on hearing that the Chelsea team is over the hill and that most of the squad players are shite and yet they manage to pull off results that our first team struggle to do?

[g88ner]

The point gained yesterday, which people were saying was good only in light of the Newcastle result, doesn't look so clever now does it? If we'd won the Wigan and Chelsea games as expected we wouldn't be sat here shitting ourselves as to how the Chavs and Spuds will do!!

Stoke away is notoriously difficult, so a point shouldn't be sniffed at... especially with the worst Arsenal team since Wenger took over!

Citeh, ManUre, Liverpool, Chelsea and Sp*rs didn't win there this season either, so we're in good company.

[I Hate Hleb]

It would be just as easy to point out the games where we dropped points but to whom those you mentioned didn't!! Yes, Stoke away is a tough game but the fact is that we really needed to win that game in light of our previous couple of results and we didn't, and as I said previously, what 'looked' a good point yesterday seems like yet another lost opportunity today.

[g88ner]

Makes sense g88ner but then what was the excuse for our defeat and performance to QPR after 7 straight wins? And there are numerous other examples that can prove that kind of 'psychology' to be nonsense!!

Yeah, maybe. It's certainly not an exact science, I'll give you that!

To be honest, I think our away form was always a bit lucky during our winning run, and a defeat was only a matter of time.

Winning at Anfield was daylight robbery, winning at Goodison was quite lucky, and of course we beat Sunderland away in stoppage time, as well.

I think we're a very average team that is crawling over the line for 3rd. I think we might just manage it though!

[Babatunde]

The point gained yesterday, which people were saying was good only in light of the Newcastle result, doesn't look so clever now does it? If we'd won the Wigan and Chelsea games as expected we wouldn't be sat here shitting ourselves as to how the Chavs and Spuds will do!!

Spot on IHH, especially with your comment about the 'fatigue' and 'handbrake'.

For five years, Wenger's pathetic Arsenal have gone into every season only 'competing' in one single competition, and that one is the PL. And even in that, they don't compete for first place, they compete for 3rd. Meanwhile, we have seen a Manure team that last season played Carrick at centre-back, and at one point had 8 first teamers out injured, on the brink of a back to back PL title - all this despite not having the funds to expend, seeing as their debt prevents them.

It makes a complete and total mockery of all of Wenger's sorry-ass apologists and their pathetic excuses

'It was a good point at Stoke'

LOL

Yep, especially when the Spuds and Chavs both win their matches. A good point at Stoke with a wage bill of over £130 mil, you couldn't make it up.

'Our injuries have harmed us'

That's what you get when the whole culture at the club is so stale the medical department who've been inept for so many years, have not been revamped. The same old rubbish training methods, a poor man's Barca tippy-tappy bollocks, with weak as piss frail mediocre players. Other big teams have multiple injuries,plenty of teams cannot afford to have a £15 mil teenager rotting on the bench, whilst a useless piece of shit that cost £11.5 mil from Abidjan also wastes away on the subs bench. It's pathetic. You also have to consider the 'quality' of player that has been out injured. Obv, Wilshere is a big big loss but beyond him who is there? Mertesacker? Ha ha ha. Fat Santos? The one who was overtaken by the linesman at Stamford Bridge? Who else? Walcott perhaps now?

'Who would you replace Arsene with'

Pep Guardiola, or Jurgen Klopp. Despite what some jokers would have you believe, Guardiola is an outstanding manager with class.

Jurgen Klopp, has won back to back league titles in German with a young Dortmund team that cost peanuts to assembled. He has successively defeated Bayern Munich in that league - this is Bayern that are one of the five richest clubs in world football, with multiple European Cups, and have more transfer funds than most European teams. Yet, Dortmund have found a way. None of this pathetic excuse-making garbage about 'having less money'.

'Only Arsene could get us top 4 with those resources'

Another laughable piece of nonsense, rendered all the more farcical when you consider that the financially inferior Spuds or Newcastle are likely to finish in the top 4. It ain't an achievement, it;s nothing at all.


The Steve Kean situation at Blackburn is very similar to the Wenger Out one at Arsenal.
People chastised the 'Kean Out' brigade because Kean happened to fluke a couple of results. So they creamed themselves prematurely, claiming Kean was right all along. Oh dear, time has proven those Blackburn fans knew exactly what they were on about - just as those wanting Wenger out know what they mean.

[Babatunde]

Still. What am I moaning about. This summer WILL be different and Arsene will address the deficiencies in the squad, he has learned his lesson, and Javi Martinez, M'Vila, Podolski and Goetze will all sign for us this summer, with the deadwood like Djourou, Chamakh, Shitachi and Fabianski being shipped out.


In Arsene I Trust.

[g88ner]

Still. What am I moaning about. This summer WILL be different and Arsene will address the deficiencies in the squad, he has learned his lesson, and Javi Martinez, M'Vila, Podolski and Goetze will all sign for us this summer, with the deadwood like Djourou, Chamakh, Shitachi and Fabianski being shipped out.


In Arsene I Trust.

By the sounds of it, there's a very good chance Podolski WILL sign. Maybe M'Vila? not sure. could be nonsense as usual.

But that aside, I'm sure 99% of the forum would agree with your general view, mate. A significant change in philosophy and direction just ain't gonna happen!

But, Wenger's here to stay. Can't see that changing any time soon.

[Rosie_titters]

today results were expected to be honest, and it was a good point away to stoke - the Wigan home game could come back to haunt us

[Supagoon]

spurs beat blackburn at home, i hope no-one was expecting different.

If we can't get 6 pts from norwich at home and wba who couldn't give one, we deserve nothing.

And if the unthinkable happens and Chelsea beat Bayern hopefully spurs are in that 4th spot .

[flash gunner]

WOW. That QPR team that just beat Arsenal look incredible don't they? Some fearsome team eh....

With your comment above in mind, please explain the following... (and please be consistent)

Arsenal 7-1 Blackburn (Feb 4th 2012)
Man Utd 2-3 Blackburn (Dec 31st 2011)

Difficult, isn't it? but as they say, that's football!

I know you're just using it as a stick to beat Arsenal with, but surely you can recognise that comparing results isn't an exact science, as my Blackburn example illustrates.

As for QPR... surely you can also acknowledge the difference between playing a team home or away..?

I'd say the difference between playing QPR home and away is clear...

QPR have lost 6 in a row away from home in the league, yet at home they've beaten Sp*rs, Swansea, Arsenal and Liverool on the trot.

Just shows why they call it home advantage.

Anyway, all teams have their good days and their off days. To read too much into that would be silly.

For real comparisons, lets see where these teams are at the end of the season, because whereas people can twist things and be overly negative or positive, at the end of the day...the league table doesn't lie.

Great post g88ner