Sagna next to go???

[ClockEndNick]

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[Robin_L]

Four great years of service to the club, we've won fuck all in that time, he's well within his rights to be critical. Needs to have a trophy to show for his time in England, far too good a player not to. Model pro as well, first time we've heard anything out of him, if those quotes are even legit.

No doubt he'll get the "Sagna, you're a cunt" treatment though from all the clueless twats though. Standard.

[aw]

According to a French speaking colleague, he didn't say half those things he is quoted as saying. In answer to the question about contract talks he said "no comment". His main point was he is happy at the club and hopes to continue.
Don't believe everything you read.

[SteveO 35]

According to a French speaking colleague, he didn't say half those things he is quoted as saying. In answer to the question about contract talks he said "no comment". His main point was he is happy at the club and hopes to continue.
Don't believe everything you read.

There are a hell of a lot of direct quotes in there. If he didn't say them he should take action against the magazine

[StuartL]

Love Sagna and hope he recovers fully and stays.
Can't see it being good business to give him a contract until they see if he fully recovers from the leg break. He has nearly two years left on his contract.
His comments are interesting but don't see them as being particularily aggressive.

Quite agree Vinny
I would have thought it prudent for the club to assess his return from yet another leg break and enter negotiations around xmas time ?
He has all of this season and then a further year still to run with us.

I really like Sagna, consistant in his performances and one of the only players that we have who would go into a 50/50 that I would be confident of him winning it or not bottling out.

[manninger]

Love Sagna and hope he recovers fully and stays.
Can't see it being good business to give him a contract until they see if he fully recovers from the leg break. He has nearly two years left on his contract.
His comments are interesting but don't see them as being particularily aggressive.

Agree on that. read the other day, that we would open talks with him, Ox, Gibbs, Maybbe he has begun contract talks through the press........

[brazilianGOONER]

so i see people here still take news from any newspaper like if it was the truth brought from heaven by god himself

i heard him and the ox were about to get new contracts before the end of the year, i hope it's true. we finally look good defensively and with the best defensive right back in europe back from injury we can only get better.

[OneBardGooner]

Tricky one this...normally would agree should be signed on new contact but after the 2 leg breaks think it is wiser to wait and see how he comes back from the injuries.

I'm not saying he is readty to replace Sagna but does anyone else think Jenks its starting to improve?I know he couldnt get much worse then last season and had a few suspect moments against scousers...but I think there are some encouraging signs.

And so as predicted, the excuses begin.

How does this one go again? Oh yeah

'Clichy is better than Cole'
'Clichy is crap, Gibbs i the future'
'Fabregas is injury-prone and his hamstrings are gone, Nasri can easily do what he does'
'Nasri is overrated and a half-season wonder, let him go'
'Adebayor scored 30 goals how can he not be rated as quality'
'Adebayor was never that good anyway, RVP is the future'
'RVP is the future and a captain in waiting'

FFS why are ppl talking about Jenkinson. Sorry, but he's shit. Nice kid blah blah he is effin garbage and Igenuinely mean this, he would not get a start at DonCaster

This is Arsenal FC FFS since when did fans start accepting players like Jenkinson 'improving a bit'??

What excuses did i make?

Thats exactly it mate you didnt!! but you did go against the thoughts of the mighty fountain of footballing knowledge naughty boy

Code for utter wanker of a 13yr old with zits the size of vesunius.

[OneBardGooner]

According to a French speaking colleague, he didn't say half those things he is quoted as saying. In answer to the question about contract talks he said "no comment". His main point was he is happy at the club and hopes to continue.
Don't believe ANYHTING you read.

Especially from BlahBlahtunde - coz he spout the same thing every post - and has done since he first arrived and it's just sooo mind numbingly boooringggg

[QuartzGooner]

I agree with many that we have a business model dependent on selling players to raise the cash to pay off the stadium debt.

I am not sure we would make such a big profit on Sagna though?

I think his age and having had two leg breaks will reduce his value.

But if Jenkinson, Coquelin or Yennaris consistently impress at right back then anything can happen.

Frustrating.

[Old Oak Gooner]

My standard reply is; see you later money grabber and shut the door the behind you- no one is bigger than this club, and another thing is that footballers come out with these statements with no shame, just say you want money!

[franksav63]

Fucking MEH!!

[SteveO 35]

so i see people here still take news from any newspaper like if it was the truth brought from heaven by god himself

i heard him and the ox were about to get new contracts before the end of the year, i hope it's true. we finally look good defensively and with the best defensive right back in europe back from injury we can only get better.

So this is an article where the player has actually given a direct interview from which a whole host of directly attributable quotations have been extracted......and its a pile of shit, yeah?

....yet pretty much the same folk who got on my case about Diarra 'refusing to play' on the back of some made up piece of shit that didn't contain a single quote from player or manager, condemned him and his terrible attitude forever on the back of such nonsense

Be consistent people please

[Babatunde]

Remember SteveO, Alex Song had a 'bad attitude' (according to the newspapers), and this was used a stick to beat him with. So we believe them then.
Yet when it doesn't suit our interests, the papers are full of shit.
Ok fair enough....

[Top Londoner]

"Bacary Sagna and the Arsenal fans should remember: In Arsene Wenger we trust."




No one can say that life is easy for the average Gooner and certainly not as he endures a debate that on one side has an Old Etonian director whose last share sales profit from Arsenal provided roughly £5.5million of walking around money — and on the other a 29-year-old player who complains, as he recovers from a broken leg, that he is a mere two years away from the end of his contract and still waiting for someone to tell him by quite how much he will profit if he signs another one.

You might say it is small wonder there is talk of a bonfire of season ticket holders outside the Emirates.

Maybe so, but then it also needs to be remembered that lapping around the current argument between Peter Hill-Wood and Bacary Sagna are issues which could soon enough move Arsenal from the margins of the ­English football elite to the forefront of financial ­sanity.

There is growing support within the game for Arsenal’s stance, that having secured their own stadium, the middle-term future belongs to those who realise they have to live within their means.

Certainly Hill-Wood’s assertion that as an economics graduate of Strasbourg University and arguably one of the most astute observers of raw talent in the history of the game Arsene Wenger is superbly equipped to weather the kind of criticism that Sagna this week helped to fuel in an explosive interview with the French sports paper L’Equipe.

Sagna said he shared the instincts of the fans that they have been witnessing a form of madness in the routine exodus of key players. By the sharpest contrast, Hill-Wood’s vision of a stable future and Arsenal’s opportunity to exploit it is beginning to attract increasingly levels of support within the game.

Greg Clarke, chairman of a Football League pushing for Financial Fair play regulations, certainly reports that in recent weeks he has noted a sharp increase in enquiries about the development of the new plans from chairman and chief executives of the Premier League. “The interest in a new way of doing things is increasingly perceptible,” says Clarke. “I think there is a strongly growing sense that more and more clubs realise the point of the efforts being made by our league and also Uefa.”

Indeed, one calculation yesterday had 14 of 20 Premier League clubs leaning strongly towards the idea of new officially endorsed restraints. Naturally, they did not include Chelsea or Manchester City but did include United, who have their own financial whirlwinds to negotiate and are said to be increasingly sympathetic towards the kind of regulations that would enshrine Wenger’s policy of restraint.

Meanwhile, Sagna was declaring: “When you see the two best players of last season leave, you have a lot of questions. Sometimes in the street the fans talk to me. I can understand they are upset. I am just like them. My own situation is that at the end of this season I will have one year remaining. Has the club contacted me about an extension? No, no one. Could I be tempted to leave? I just want to play again and be good for Arsenal so far. Then, we will see. Each person has his own destiny.”

Clear enough, now, is the one to which Wenger has elected himself. It is the one of holding the line, of saying that in a new and dangerous football world he is prepared to take the hits, to see the departure of all that talent he cultivated so ferociously down the years and still push on with the belief that he can produce football of enduring quality.

For a reminder of that particular knack, it was only necessary to study his reaction when the name Santi Cazorla was mentioned after the comprehensive undressing of Liverpool at Anfield last Sunday. “Oh, but of course he can play . . . he is a football player of the highest quality.”

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/footbal ... 16854.html

James Lawton.


It was a statement of vast proprietorial pride and it also suggested a belief that the worst of the Arsenal crisis might be over.

It may be a little soon to say that, but the least you could declare after the latest convulsion created by the departures of Robin van Persie and Alex Song was that Arsenal looked infinitely stronger than they did a year ago. This may not be quite the land of guaranteed plenty following the fallow years but then could it not be so much worse? Imagine, if you are one of those threatening the bonfire at the Emirates, rule by the entrepreneurial decree of Daniel Levy at Tottenham or John W Henry at Liverpool.

Wenger has always declared with great defiance that he was moving his club to safer terrain and a guaranteed future at the top of the game. The argument may not be over but there are compelling reasons to believe that it is beginning to swing in his favour.

If Cazorla can play, really play, it is surely not any time to say that Wenger can no longer manage.