Thank you

[Herd]

The only way you can really judge over time is by looking at a club’s record and its league performance against its spending,” he said. “We have outperformed that spend every year for 15 years.

Says it all really !

[Number 5]

When you have overall control of an organisation and you change nothing you become entirely accountable for those policies even if you didn't make them up. Wenger is also culpable of course, which is the point I guess you're trying to make.

What?

Why would someone want to change those policies when it makes the investment that they have made increase? Who is he accountable to? Certainly not the fans. People don't own football clubs anymore to throw money at them and lead them to the greatest prizes. Not unless you're owned by a billionaire happy to run at a loss. And those fuckers have ruined the games haven't they?

Wenger is totally culpable because only one area really matters to me, what happens on the pitch. Amidst all the boardroom shenanigans of the last 7 years there has been the nucleus of a title winning side lining up most weeks at Arsenal. But they've been badly managed and poorly backed up and we've slipped further and further away. Not because of Gazidis handing out large contracts or touting for business round the far east. Not when those contracts were recommended by one man. And lets face it, if you don't go global these days you really will get left behind.

The same disgruntled shit went down at Man Utd but they kept winning trophies, riding high. Why was that? Because Ferguson won't settle for averageness, he manages his team and awards his players on the basis of what they've done, not what they have the potential to do. They have a similar strategy of buying young but every now and then will take a punt on a big spend that they won't get back. What do we do? Sign players, give them big contracts and then let those contracts run out. And we've been at it since before Kroenke, before Gazidis.

Wenger manages the team and he sits in on board meetings. He knows full well what goes down at the club and absolutely has input into affairs outside team matters. When you refuse to change and keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again, that is too much to have.

I'd take a change in manager of a change of board at the moment every time. Because any new board, short of a ruthless Abramovich type, will take Wengers lead all day every day and watch their investment multiply many times over. And I would guess, be pretty fucking settled with their accountability.

[LDB]

When you have overall control of an organisation and you change nothing you become entirely accountable for those policies even if you didn't make them up. Wenger is also culpable of course, which is the point I guess you're trying to make.

What?

Why would someone want to change those policies when it makes the investment that they have made increase? Who is he accountable to? Certainly not the fans. People don't own football clubs anymore to throw money at them and lead them to the greatest prizes. Not unless you're owned by a billionaire happy to run at a loss. And those fuckers have ruined the games haven't they?

Wenger is totally culpable because only one area really matters to me, what happens on the pitch. Amidst all the boardroom shenanigans of the last 7 years there has been the nucleus of a title winning side lining up most weeks at Arsenal. But they've been badly managed and poorly backed up and we've slipped further and further away. Not because of Gazidis handing out large contracts or touting for business round the far east. Not when those contracts were recommended by one man. And lets face it, if you don't go global these days you really will get left behind.

The same disgruntled shit went down at Man Utd but they kept winning trophies, riding high. Why was that? Because Ferguson won't settle for averageness, he manages his team and awards his players on the basis of what they've done, not what they have the potential to do. They have a similar strategy of buying young but every now and then will take a punt on a big spend that they won't get back. What do we do? Sign players, give them big contracts and then let those contracts run out. And we've been at it since before Kroenke, before Gazidis.

Wenger manages the team and he sits in on board meetings. He knows full well what goes down at the club and absolutely has input into affairs outside team matters. When you refuse to change and keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again, that is too much to have.

I'd take a change in manager of a change of board at the moment every time. Because any new board, short of a ruthless Abramovich type, will take Wengers lead all day every day and watch their investment multiply many times over. And I would guess, be pretty fucking settled with their accountability.

They're both to blame, we could argue all day about who is more to blame but I cant be bothered because at the end of the day I want them all gone. They're not wrong to attack Gazidis and Kroenke who have the power to change the way the club is run just like they wouldn't be wrong to attack Wenger for the same reason.

That simple enough?