As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
markyp wrote:gotta be a good thing really.no way in a million years was he joining us,at least he aint joining Chavski or city,thank god!!who would we want now if Arsene left???? Jose???personally id like Laudrup
I'd take that bloke who just got sacked from Blackpool, whose name I don't even fucking know, if it meant we were rid of Alzheimer Wenger.
He's basically exchanged one guaranteed success (Barca) for another (Bayern).
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's very talented indeed, but we'll never know how good he really is unless he tests himself with a real challenge and not simply swanning around football's elite, coaching the best team in their respective leagues.
To be fair, Barca were hardly successful for the two years previous to when he took them over, with plenty of egos and infighting, and it certainly took a lot of bravery to get rid of a number of star names and replace them with predominately younger Barca players (as well as the odd signing, although he wasn't totally triumphant in that dept). The main thing he did that impressed me was install tactical discipline into the side, with each player working their socks off for his team-mates. Add that to the incredible talent he helped develop or promote and I'd say Guardiola has done a marvelous job which wasn't as 'simple' as some suggest.
I Hate Hleb wrote:To be fair, Barca were hardly successful for the two years previous to when he took them over, with plenty of egos and infighting, and it certainly took a lot of bravery to get rid of a number of star names and replace them with predominately younger Barca players (as well as the odd signing, although he wasn't totally triumphant in that dept). The main thing he did that impressed me was install tactical discipline into the side, with each player working their socks off for his team-mates. Add that to the incredible talent he helped develop or promote and I'd say Guardiola has done a marvelous job which wasn't as 'simple' as some suggest.
I Hate Hleb wrote:To be fair, Barca were hardly successful for the two years previous to when he took them over, with plenty of egos and infighting, and it certainly took a lot of bravery to get rid of a number of star names and replace them with predominately younger Barca players (as well as the odd signing, although he wasn't totally triumphant in that dept). The main thing he did that impressed me was install tactical discipline into the side, with each player working their socks off for his team-mates. Add that to the incredible talent he helped develop or promote and I'd say Guardiola has done a marvelous job which wasn't as 'simple' as some suggest.
Agreed, I think most people recognise that Guardiola's Barca added a work rate and tactical discipline that matched their talent; a combination that has arguably produced the greatest team of all time.
Hilarious that on another day of Chelsea booing the fat waiter the man they coveted most of all pisses off to Bayern for 3 years. Unlucky lads you'll have to find another manager to take over from your interim man-a-hah
The boos at full time were noted for the next time some superfan comes on here telling us all how impatient and terrible we are when we get a few groans of discontent at full time of certain games. Champions of Europe, still in the title race, goals from 2 more flash new signings in Ba and Hazard, an owner that writes blank cheques, cups galore over the past decade.....and they boo substitutions and at full time when the team hasn't even lost the match.
He's basically exchanged one guaranteed success (Barca) for another (Bayern).
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure he's very talented indeed, but we'll never know how good he really is unless he tests himself with a real challenge and not simply swanning around football's elite, coaching the best team in their respective leagues.
but where is the challenge in coaching utd or chelsea? utd have massive resources and refs, chelsea have cash and roman will do anything for pep. City??
So you can argue he has it easy anywhere because he has been so successful, he can still mess things up at bayern. People say that about jose too, but these guys have earnt the right to coach at top clubs.
Is a challenge winning something with this arsenal squad, cos i'd agree.